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 Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 4:33 pm
sorrow89 Variant_Theory i'm suprised no one mentioned last word. the uncounterable counterspell. one problem if someone last words or something in a counter war...you just counter the original spell again while its on the stack but if the person with the last word is countering the original spell then a counter war dousnt even occur
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:30 pm
Last Word's flavour text pwns face
I <3 Force Spike, always fun.
I hate Force of Will cause it's such a good card and I don't have a playset >.<
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:49 pm
sorrow89 Variant_Theory i'm suprised no one mentioned last word. the uncounterable counterspell. one problem if someone last words or something in a counter war...you just counter the original spell again while its on the stack That doesn't work, you can't counter a spell twice.
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:23 am
Skunch sorrow89 Variant_Theory i'm suprised no one mentioned last word. the uncounterable counterspell. one problem if someone last words or something in a counter war...you just counter the original spell again while its on the stack That doesn't work, you can't counter a spell twice. You're right. You can target it twice, but it is impossible to counter anything twice. Take this. Nasty Spell (1), Counterspell (targeting Nasty Spell)(2), Counterspell (Targeting (2))(3), Last Word (Targeting Nasty Spell (1))(4), Counterspell (targeting (3))(5). This is slightly confusing, but whatever. Counterspell (5) would resolve, countering Counterspell 3, then Last Word would resolve, countering Nasty Spell, THEN the original counterspell would FIZZLE for lack of target, making you right IN THEORY, but you can target the same spell 1,000,000 times. You'll waste 999,999 of those counters, but you'll counter the spell smile . Best counter ever - Counterspell Standard - Remand, Mana Leak, or Hinder
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:19 pm
Counterspell. Lets break this down
Color: Blue
Casting Cost: UU
Ability: Counter Target Spell
That's it. No frills, all power. How can people NOT see that is beyond me. For how good FoW is, yes, you do have to commit potetially more than CS. Removing a blue card and 1 life. What if FoW is all you have? Then it's a counterspell for 3UU, a lot more than regular Counterspell. It doesn't cost one mana, but then again there's nothing short of another counterspell that an opponent can do about it.
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 7:11 am
Obersturmbannfuehrer Chii Counterspell. Lets break this down Color: Blue Casting Cost: UU Ability: Counter Target Spell That's it. No frills, all power. How can people NOT see that is beyond me. For how good FoW is, yes, you do have to commit potetially more than CS. Removing a blue card and 1 life. What if FoW is all you have? Then it's a counterspell for 3UU, a lot more than regular Counterspell. It doesn't cost one mana, but then again there's nothing short of another counterspell that an opponent can do about it. Mana Drain> counterspell
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 7:58 pm
froszen id have to say rewind, purely for the fact that it works with so much els. anything before those turns i would say force of will or daze. im also a fan of power sink, just because its more versatile and your aponent looses their mana if they dont pay the X. in order id say 1 rewind 2 force of will 3 power sink 4 daze what about drain? no drawbacks...
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 8:01 am
Early game-- Force of Will or Mana Drain
Mid--- counter spell
Late game-- SPELLJACK!!!!
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 8:04 am
WAIT STOP THE PRESS!!!
WHAT ABOUT SWIFT JUSTICE!!!!!
Oh wait i forgot its.... swift justice.... crying
Some bad
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 12:58 pm
Rewind is good for decks with a lot of instants or creature abilities.
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 1:42 pm
Samyueru_UK Skunch sorrow89 Variant_Theory i'm suprised no one mentioned last word. the uncounterable counterspell. one problem if someone last words or something in a counter war...you just counter the original spell again while its on the stack That doesn't work, you can't counter a spell twice. You're right. You can target it twice, but it is impossible to counter anything twice. Take this. Nasty Spell (1), Counterspell (targeting Nasty Spell)(2), Counterspell (Targeting (2))(3), Last Word (Targeting Nasty Spell (1))(4), Counterspell (targeting (3))(5). This is slightly confusing, but whatever. Counterspell (5) would resolve, countering Counterspell 3, then Last Word would resolve, countering Nasty Spell, THEN the original counterspell would FIZZLE for lack of target, making you right IN THEORY, but you can target the same spell 1,000,000 times. You'll waste 999,999 of those counters, but you'll counter the spell smile . Best counter ever - Counterspell Standard - Remand, Mana Leak, or Hinder its not countering the spell twice...its on the stack...the way it works is first on last off...if a spell is played its the first on the stack and the last to resovle...it works the same way as it does on a computer, first info in last to go through the whole way...so when you counter that spell again the other counter card used fizzles and is just removed from the stack with no effects used on it
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 2:16 pm
You cannot counter a spell that is already being countered. That is why there is a stack, and why the last-in, first-out resoloution rule is in place.
as for best counterspell:
Absorb and suffocating blast.
Now before you tell me they suck (and the do) hear me out.
Sunforger.
That is all.
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 5:32 pm
Skunch You cannot counter a spell that is already being countered. That is why there is a stack, and why the last-in, first-out resoloution rule is in place. as for best counterspell: Absorb and suffocating blast. Now before you tell me they suck (and the do) hear me out. Sunforger. That is all. they dont suck theyre fun to use, almost any card can be good in retrospect, everyone has their own opinion and thoughts and should be welcomed into an invironment that is open to everyone lol
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Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 7:05 pm
sorrow89 Skunch You cannot counter a spell that is already being countered. That is why there is a stack, and why the last-in, first-out resoloution rule is in place. as for best counterspell: Absorb and suffocating blast. Now before you tell me they suck (and the do) hear me out. Sunforger. That is all. they dont suck theyre fun to use, almost any card can be good in retrospect, everyone has their own opinion and thoughts and should be welcomed into an invironment that is open to everyone lol You're right, they aren't terrible- at least absorb isn't. With Suffocating Blast, there HAS to be a creature in play. That can cause some issues.
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Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 6:48 pm
froszen id have to say rewind, purely for the fact that it works with so much els. anything before those turns i would say force of will or daze. im also a fan of power sink, just because its more versatile and your aponent looses their mana if they dont pay the X. in order id say 1 rewind 2 force of will 3 power sink 4 daze i agree with the rewind only because it untaps 4 mana to recast another rewind or some other spells, like two counterspells afterwards.. its my personal favorite combo...
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