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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 7:37 pm


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Usually I just get challenged to random lvl 50 battles. I hate those. I like all out cause then I dominate.
So, when the level isn't set automatically to 50, you dominate... does that mean you generally stomp people who have lower level pokemon?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 7:47 pm


Edit: I'm withdrawing my comment here. It appears Hunter has already said it all. 3nodding

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:03 pm


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Usually I just get challenged to random lvl 50 battles. I hate those. I like all out cause then I dominate.
So, when the level isn't set automatically to 50, you dominate... does that mean you generally stomp people who have lower level pokemon?

No unless that's what they challenge me with. It prevents me from getting annoyed with them persistantly challenging me.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:51 pm


If you battled yourself, but one version of yourself had good natures, and the other one didn't, who would win?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:02 pm


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If you battled yourself, but one version of yourself had good natures, and the other one didn't, who would win?

If I battled myself? Wow, it would be a toss up if the pokemon were the same with the same moves. I use the effectiveness of moves.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:08 am


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If you battled yourself, but one version of yourself had good natures, and the other one didn't, who would win?

If I battled myself? Wow, it would be a toss up if the pokemon were the same with the same moves. I use the effectiveness of moves.

Well one of you has to win xp

Let's simplify it. Your luxray vs itself but one luxray always goes first, who would win?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:39 am


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If you battled yourself, but one version of yourself had good natures, and the other one didn't, who would win?

If I battled myself? Wow, it would be a toss up if the pokemon were the same with the same moves. I use the effectiveness of moves.

Well one of you has to win xp

Let's simplify it. Your luxray vs itself but one luxray always goes first, who would win?

Well if both keep using crunch one is bound to faint. It depends on who goes first. Thing is I use type advantages. That way the move does more damage.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:18 am


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If you battled yourself, but one version of yourself had good natures, and the other one didn't, who would win?

If I battled myself? Wow, it would be a toss up if the pokemon were the same with the same moves. I use the effectiveness of moves.

Well one of you has to win xp

Let's simplify it. Your luxray vs itself but one luxray always goes first, who would win?

Well if both keep using crunch one is bound to faint. It depends on who goes first. Thing is I use type advantages. That way the move does more damage.

Of course! Type advantages are key. And like you said, whichever luxray goes first will win. So, if boh luxrays were the same, but one had more speed, the one with more speed would win. And that's when nature would matter. For the extra +10% in a stat, like speed.

I totally agree that against Lysander or Diantha nature doesn't matter. But against harder opponents, like when you battle yourself, the right nature will help. Nature won't win you battles, but anything that helps will make you the best that you can be.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:25 am


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If you battled yourself, but one version of yourself had good natures, and the other one didn't, who would win?

If I battled myself? Wow, it would be a toss up if the pokemon were the same with the same moves. I use the effectiveness of moves.

Well one of you has to win xp

Let's simplify it. Your luxray vs itself but one luxray always goes first, who would win?

Well if both keep using crunch one is bound to faint. It depends on who goes first. Thing is I use type advantages. That way the move does more damage.

Of course! Type advantages are key. And like you said, whichever luxray goes first will win. So, if boh luxrays were the same, but one had more speed, the one with more speed would win. And that's when nature would matter. For the extra +10% in a stat, like speed.

I totally agree that against Lysander or Diantha nature doesn't matter. But against harder opponents, like when you battle yourself, the right nature will help. Nature won't win you battles, but anything that helps will make you the best that you can be.

Yeah. Which is why I up speed, attack, and defense.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:38 am


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If you battled yourself, but one version of yourself had good natures, and the other one didn't, who would win?

If I battled myself? Wow, it would be a toss up if the pokemon were the same with the same moves. I use the effectiveness of moves.

Well one of you has to win xp

Let's simplify it. Your luxray vs itself but one luxray always goes first, who would win?

Well if both keep using crunch one is bound to faint. It depends on who goes first. Thing is I use type advantages. That way the move does more damage.

Of course! Type advantages are key. And like you said, whichever luxray goes first will win. So, if boh luxrays were the same, but one had more speed, the one with more speed would win. And that's when nature would matter. For the extra +10% in a stat, like speed.

I totally agree that against Lysander or Diantha nature doesn't matter. But against harder opponents, like when you battle yourself, the right nature will help. Nature won't win you battles, but anything that helps will make you the best that you can be.

Yeah. Which is why I up speed, attack, and defense.

Yeah. And the right nature can up speed, attack, or defense even more xd

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:50 am


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Well one of you has to win xp

Let's simplify it. Your luxray vs itself but one luxray always goes first, who would win?

Well if both keep using crunch one is bound to faint. It depends on who goes first. Thing is I use type advantages. That way the move does more damage.

Of course! Type advantages are key. And like you said, whichever luxray goes first will win. So, if boh luxrays were the same, but one had more speed, the one with more speed would win. And that's when nature would matter. For the extra +10% in a stat, like speed.

I totally agree that against Lysander or Diantha nature doesn't matter. But against harder opponents, like when you battle yourself, the right nature will help. Nature won't win you battles, but anything that helps will make you the best that you can be.

Yeah. Which is why I up speed, attack, and defense.

Yeah. And the right nature can up speed, attack, or defense even more xd

Yeah but usually it nvr matters to me.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:14 am


Kalika Kingslayer
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Well one of you has to win xp

Let's simplify it. Your luxray vs itself but one luxray always goes first, who would win?

Well if both keep using crunch one is bound to faint. It depends on who goes first. Thing is I use type advantages. That way the move does more damage.

Of course! Type advantages are key. And like you said, whichever luxray goes first will win. So, if boh luxrays were the same, but one had more speed, the one with more speed would win. And that's when nature would matter. For the extra +10% in a stat, like speed.

I totally agree that against Lysander or Diantha nature doesn't matter. But against harder opponents, like when you battle yourself, the right nature will help. Nature won't win you battles, but anything that helps will make you the best that you can be.

Yeah. Which is why I up speed, attack, and defense.

Yeah. And the right nature can up speed, attack, or defense even more xd

Yeah but usually it nvr matters to me.

Okay, that's fine. But, it does matter to competitive people.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:24 am


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Of course! Type advantages are key. And like you said, whichever luxray goes first will win. So, if boh luxrays were the same, but one had more speed, the one with more speed would win. And that's when nature would matter. For the extra +10% in a stat, like speed.

I totally agree that against Lysander or Diantha nature doesn't matter. But against harder opponents, like when you battle yourself, the right nature will help. Nature won't win you battles, but anything that helps will make you the best that you can be.

Yeah. Which is why I up speed, attack, and defense.

Yeah. And the right nature can up speed, attack, or defense even more xd

Yeah but usually it nvr matters to me.

Okay, that's fine. But, it does matter to competitive people.

People shouldn't be so competative.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:08 pm


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Of course! Type advantages are key. And like you said, whichever luxray goes first will win. So, if boh luxrays were the same, but one had more speed, the one with more speed would win. And that's when nature would matter. For the extra +10% in a stat, like speed.

I totally agree that against Lysander or Diantha nature doesn't matter. But against harder opponents, like when you battle yourself, the right nature will help. Nature won't win you battles, but anything that helps will make you the best that you can be.

Yeah. Which is why I up speed, attack, and defense.

Yeah. And the right nature can up speed, attack, or defense even more xd

Yeah but usually it nvr matters to me.

Okay, that's fine. But, it does matter to competitive people.

People shouldn't be so competative.


Hang on.... WHAT!!! "People shouldn't be competitive"???? Why? What if they WANT to be competitive. Also if YOU don;t want to be competitive, why is this an issue? Simply don't play with people whom you think are too competitive.

Same thing could be said about sports. "Oh they shouldn't be too competitve", but where would the fun be in that? It'd be like Sarcastaball all over again, one giant love in.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:38 pm


Statistically speaking Nature does matter in the online competition. Even though there are factors like pokemon match ups, the luck chances, and predictions, a pokemon with the right nature (Like Adamant giving +atk to a garchomp versus something that would minus it) means it will deal out more damage then a pokemon with the wrong nature. Technically nature does matter, everyone has their own play style but numbers wise it will matter in the long run just like things with EV training.

Here is a example for Garchomp attack stat,
At level 50 with its maximum hindering nature it would have roughly 121 - 163 Attack

At level 50 with its maximum beneficial nature it would have roughly 148 - 200.

The difference between these two even if small could mean the difference between a 1HKO and a 2HKO which is a large factor in online battles. Ultimately nature does matter IF you are aiming to make a competitive maximum efficient team no matter how you look at it.
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