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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:08 pm


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Like someone said earlier the romantic stuff will come afterwards. I think what you guys are doing is adorable.


Thank you, it's nice to know we can work this out.

redface What you calling us friggin adorable for? sweatdrop Jeez you're making me blush. sweatdrop
PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:15 pm


Mystressfluffy2
Dude*puts hand on shoulder*
I actually am in the same situation but going on 2 years with my girlfriend
Heres the thing
I too use to be homophobic
Met my winderful gf and became attracted to her and didnt know why, i mean, i was straight
Or so i thought
After my last bf who almost raped me. Me ans my gf started to date. Basically f** buddies
Then i started to love her and she loved me
Now we have been together for teo years on march 21 and im so glad it happened
Im also bisexual, best of both worlds!


Wow, that's awesome. You two sound sweet together. OuO
We'll be reaching 2 years around that time too, I just hope we can get to that "L" stage soon.
Hell yeah blaugh ! Best of both indeed.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:21 pm


RebelliousSonOfMrClean
Mystressfluffy2
Dude*puts hand on shoulder*
I actually am in the same situation but going on 2 years with my girlfriend
Heres the thing
I too use to be homophobic
Met my winderful gf and became attracted to her and didnt know why, i mean, i was straight
Or so i thought
After my last bf who almost raped me. Me ans my gf started to date. Basically f** buddies
Then i started to love her and she loved me
Now we have been together for teo years on march 21 and im so glad it happened
Im also bisexual, best of both worlds!


Wow, that's awesome. You two sound sweet together. OuO
We'll be reaching 2 years around that time too, I just hope we can get to that "L" stage soon.
Hell yeah blaugh ! Best of both indeed.

Aw well congrats! Hope all goes well!
PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:26 pm


Mystressfluffy2
RebelliousSonOfMrClean
Mystressfluffy2
Dude*puts hand on shoulder*
I actually am in the same situation but going on 2 years with my girlfriend
Heres the thing
I too use to be homophobic
Met my winderful gf and became attracted to her and didnt know why, i mean, i was straight
Or so i thought
After my last bf who almost raped me. Me ans my gf started to date. Basically f** buddies
Then i started to love her and she loved me
Now we have been together for teo years on march 21 and im so glad it happened
Im also bisexual, best of both worlds!


Wow, that's awesome. You two sound sweet together. OuO
We'll be reaching 2 years around that time too, I just hope we can get to that "L" stage soon.
Hell yeah blaugh ! Best of both indeed.

Aw well congrats! Hope all goes well!

Thanks ^_^.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:49 pm


RebelliousSonOfMrClean

There was a lot to address. I found this post incredibly helpful, thank you soooo much!

1. sweatdrop Thanks, that's kind of you to notice. We thought it felt pretty weird/special too.
2. xd Ha! (And yeah, I totally had to wiki that.)
3. It was kinda easier because we weren't in high school anymore, where hell fire of harassment seems to spawn from.
4. (._.) Huh...now that I think about it, actually, no, I have not. sweatdrop It just feels so mushy and embarrassing to bring it up, I wouldn't know where to start redface and I know he's tried bringing it up too before backing out like I do.
5. I'm not 100% sure on that. I know he wasn't as disgusted by man-skin-touching as I was, but he wasn't exactly rubbing up against them either. He was a ******** type of ladies-man back in high school (like a different girl almost every week). And now, he's... redface how do I put this... sweatdrop catching instead of pitching? So I think you might be on to something there. We haven't really talked about how he's been taking all this, so I should probably see to that first.
6. ....That might help (._.). Actually, that sounds brilliant eek !
7. You're like a gay-to-straight-relationship fountain of ever flowing wisdom and insight!
8. I feel like you're reading my mind. That's exactly how I feel.

No problem, I'm glad I could help a little. ^.^

Your relationship reminds me of my own in some ways, actually.

My guy and I initially met because we hang out with the same group of guys, who are all straight. At the time, he wasn't out (although I was), and I never suspected he might not be straight. Except...then things happened between us.

At first, we were still just friends (with benefits), and it was kind of awkward because neither of us wanted to let our guard down, emotionally speaking. We were both scared to bring up the possibility of anything romantic because we each didn't want the other person to get weirded out. We talked about video games, music, girls, work...anything but sexuality or our actual feelings for each other. razz

On top of everything else, none of our friends knew what was going on, so we were on edge all the time making sure that we didn't accidentally let anything slip.

Anyway, it took a while, but it sorted itself out eventually. Gestures that were initially hesitant and clumsy became easier each time, and now don't even really require thought. We just kind of... had to force ourselves through the awkwardness in order to build up the necessary level of communication between us. Being able to be open and romantic with each other definitely wasn't something that came naturally to either of us, especially considering the "bro" dynamic that we started off with.

He's still an awesome guy to hang out with and party with, but now he's also my guy. Best of both worlds, for sure. whee

Anyway, congrats to you two for almost two years together! That's awesome.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:41 pm


Taeryyn
No problem, I'm glad I could help a little. ^.^

Your relationship reminds me of my own in some ways, actually.

My guy and I initially met because we hang out with the same group of guys, who are all straight. At the time, he wasn't out (although I was), and I never suspected he might not be straight. Except...then things happened between us.

At first, we were still just friends (with benefits), and it was kind of awkward because neither of us wanted to let our guard down, emotionally speaking. We were both scared to bring up the possibility of anything romantic because we each didn't want the other person to get weirded out. We talked about video games, music, girls, work...anything but sexuality or our actual feelings for each other. razz

On top of everything else, none of our friends knew what was going on, so we were on edge all the time making sure that we didn't accidentally let anything slip.

Anyway, it took a while, but it sorted itself out eventually. Gestures that were initially hesitant and clumsy became easier each time, and now don't even really require thought. We just kind of... had to force ourselves through the awkwardness in order to build up the necessary level of communication between us. Being able to be open and romantic with each other definitely wasn't something that came naturally to either of us, especially considering the "bro" dynamic that we started off with.

He's still an awesome guy to hang out with and party with, but now he's also my guy. Best of both worlds, for sure. whee

Anyway, congrats to you two for almost two years together! That's awesome.


Aw, that's cute. I hope I can get where to you two are at, that sounds really nice to have. Absolutely redface beautiful. What you're living right now, is like a dream I've been wanting so badly to have with him, more than anything.

And thank you sweatdrop , that's kind of you to say.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:31 am


I am straight, myself, though I do feel that I have a bit of special insight into the situation, because this is very much how it happened with my wife and I. She identified as a lesbian from a very young age and continued to do so until we spent an absolutely bewildering (for her, that is) week together for a convention and visit to Disneyland. We've been together ever since, and I'm hearing many of the same sentiments echoed, right down to the "Not attracted to any other men."
I think what you have is great and I hate to be discouraging, but it's been two years, and it's still that awkward? That does sound extremely difficult, indeed. Things must be feeling rather insurmountable at this point. Of course it was the same way with her, but this took a matter of months rather than years to work itself out.
Just because this is something that hasn't been broached yet, I feel I should ask... Do you love him? Two years is actually when most of the endorphins wear off, so a sort of time of testing may be upon you. Knowing that you love him and the variety of love is romantic is pretty important, as is being sure that he feels the same way and that both of you are communicative.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:45 am


I totally know how you feel. I was raised being rather homophobic (by homophobic parents) and did fall in love with my best friend. It's hard overcoming what you've been taught for years. Going out with a guy has some things actually similar to a girl.
1) try discovering something romantic you both would like doing. The video game thing can actually lead to moments like this. It's surprising, but it can be a bonding experience.
2) find friends and people who accept you and him being together. Being with people like that can ease any uncomfortable feelings.
3) if you or him want something more physical, which can be awkward because he's your best friend, I know.
A) think it over and be safe.
B) don't let it be the basis of your entire relationship.
4) time helps ease uncomfortable feelings too, especially if you start conditioning yourself and start getting used to it.
5) try taking the lead somewhat.
6) don't rush anything.
I hope you and him stay together happily for a long time. If you don't, try to remain friends. If he was your best bro before, no need for that to change after a breakup. Me and my best friend have been broken up for a few years, and we're still best friends. Best of luck.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:53 pm


Matasoga
I am straight, myself, though I do feel that I have a bit of special insight into the situation, because this is very much how it happened with my wife and I. She identified as a lesbian from a very young age and continued to do so until we spent an absolutely bewildering (for her, that is) week together for a convention and visit to Disneyland. We've been together ever since, and I'm hearing many of the same sentiments echoed, right down to the "Not attracted to any other men."
I think what you have is great and I hate to be discouraging, but it's been two years, and it's still that awkward? That does sound extremely difficult, indeed. Things must be feeling rather insurmountable at this point. Of course it was the same way with her, but this took a matter of months rather than years to work itself out.
Just because this is something that hasn't been broached yet, I feel I should ask... Do you love him? Two years is actually when most of the endorphins wear off, so a sort of time of testing may be upon you. Knowing that you love him and the variety of love is romantic is pretty important, as is being sure that he feels the same way and that both of you are communicative.


Insurmountable is a way to put it. It seems like losing him is the biggest fear I've ever experienced (even more than when I thought I had gotten a girl pregnant) and I've been feeling it alot lately as our anniversary approaches. We knew each other for 6 years before getting together for the 2 so we've been through alot of life drama before.

I don't know, I mean I've been prone to saying 'I love you' way too soon before in past relationships (only to find it not that emotionally difficult to leave them) and I didn't want to make the same mistake, especially with a relationship as possibly life-changing as this one. We used to only say 'I love you' if it was followed by 'man' or 'bro', now we don't say it at it all,walking on eggshells and whatnot. I do care about him though, the type of care I'm still trying to sort out. Okay, that's probably a lie. I'm probably just scared of whether or not he feels that way. The fact that I waited so long to say it, afraid of ruining everything, is probably proof of how special he is to me. Deep down, I really think I do feel for him that way, I just don't have the balls to out and say it.

You would think that after so long of doing so little as a couple, we would've drifted by now. But in a way, it feels more like with each passing day, we keep getting over a new hurdle, and it's like it feels like I'm falling for him over and over again.

You're scaring me, man. You're really scaring me ;n;.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:14 pm


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I totally know how you feel. I was raised being rather homophobic (by homophobic parents) and did fall in love with my best friend. It's hard overcoming what you've been taught for years. Going out with a guy has some things actually similar to a girl.
1) try discovering something romantic you both would like doing. The video game thing can actually lead to moments like this. It's surprising, but it can be a bonding experience.
2) find friends and people who accept you and him being together. Being with people like that can ease any uncomfortable feelings.
3) if you or him want something more physical, which can be awkward because he's your best friend, I know.
A) think it over and be safe.
B) don't let it be the basis of your entire relationship.
4) time helps ease uncomfortable feelings too, especially if you start conditioning yourself and start getting used to it.
5) try taking the lead somewhat.
6) don't rush anything.
I hope you and him stay together happily for a long time. If you don't, try to remain friends. If he was your best bro before, no need for that to change after a breakup. Me and my best friend have been broken up for a few years, and we're still best friends. Best of luck.


1. I'll remember that. Like a majority of our lives are based on gaming.
2. Alright, I could do that. Yeah...That seems plausible...Yeah! O'o'O!
3. That's not a problem, seeing as our relationship was started by a night of drunk sex. sweatdrop We do try our best not to make it our only priority though.
4. I'm never gonna try harder at anything else in my life than this! stressed I am going to push through this damn awkwardness if it's the last thing I ******** do! scream
5. Can do!
6. Got it!
Thanks, man. I am so amped and ready for this! scream Hopefully it'll never have to come to that, but it does somewhat make me feel better that I won't lose him forever if we break up.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:27 am


RebelliousSonOfMrClean

Insurmountable is a way to put it. It seems like losing him is the biggest fear I've ever experienced (even more than when I thought I had gotten a girl pregnant) and I've been feeling it alot lately as our anniversary approaches. We knew each other for 6 years before getting together for the 2 so we've been through alot of life drama before.

I don't know, I mean I've been prone to saying 'I love you' way too soon before in past relationships (only to find it not that emotionally difficult to leave them) and I didn't want to make the same mistake, especially with a relationship as possibly life-changing as this one. We used to only say 'I love you' if it was followed by 'man' or 'bro', now we don't say it at it all,walking on eggshells and whatnot. I do care about him though, the type of care I'm still trying to sort out. Okay, that's probably a lie. I'm probably just scared of whether or not he feels that way. The fact that I waited so long to say it, afraid of ruining everything, is probably proof of how special he is to me. Deep down, I really think I do feel for him that way, I just don't have the balls to out and say it.

You would think that after so long of doing so little as a couple, we would've drifted by now. But in a way, it feels more like with each passing day, we keep getting over a new hurdle, and it's like it feels like I'm falling for him over and over again.

You're scaring me, man. You're really scaring me ;n;.

Like I said, I really don't want to discourage or scare you. It seems to me like this relationship is really good for you and I'd really rather see it succeed.
Really... I don't know what it means that you are both so self-restrained after this long. Obviously you're both taking it seriously, but it seems to me that it rather goes without saying that your relationship would be a lot better were you each more... Comfortable being in it.
Rather than view your second anniversary as a time of trepidation or the demise of your relationship, you could instead try viewing it as a golden opportunity, one that you just might not get again.
I recommend a classic, grand romantic gesture. Frankly I'm terrible at these myself, though I did once hear a very charming one where a girl talked about how she hand painted boxes and filled them with candy and hid them and did a little scavenger-hunt type thing with her boyfriend one year when she didn't have the money to buy him a more traditional gift. I'm not saying that's the route that you should go, nor do I know what your financial situation is but I do think that you should do something out of the ordinary. I think that if you want it to be permanent (and it certainly sounds like you do), if you can afford it, you may want to go the route of some sort of jewelry. It can be as tastefully manly as anything you can imagine, but it should be something lasting that could be worn, something that would remind him of you, and it should be an unmistakably romantic gesture... And it should also come with a confession of love.
I know this is out of the ordinary for the two of you, but I think that may be just what you need. If both of you keep yourselves so tightly bottled, I fear that after those endorphins are gone you may just find yourselves... worn out.
When I think about how scared you must be by saying it, I remember my wife, literally almost sick with fear when trying to tell me. Believe me when I say that I know what it is that I suggest, but if it's still this hard to say after two years, it's pretty clear to me that time won't make it any easier.
You certainly don't have to take any of these suggestions, but I can't shake the feeling that if you don't do something special and sincere, you may find yourself regretting it for a very long time.
And in the hopes of lightening things just a bit...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:08 am


Ok so this is gonna be really scatterbrained and possibly long as it is more complicated than I can reveal but here it goes.

First I'm really happy for you two.
Second with your anniversary coming up why don't you try to do something nice for the both of you, not a dinner that would make you both awkward. Try concert tickets to a band you both like?
Third don't wait forever to tell him you love him. Don't just throw it out there and scar him but don't put it off until it's too late. Since you have mentioned not really talking to him about this stuff he may feel that your relationship is going no where and want to move on to something more stable.
Fourth talk to him. Tell him how you feel.
Fifth of caurse I'm a girl so it could be different. Just going off my experience.
Sixth the complicated part, my experience.

So there was this girl that I had known since a young age and we had been friends for a long time, I even go so far as to say at one point I was closer with her before we started dating as I was with my best friend. She told me everything. Including when she figured out that she was bi (she now prefers girls but still says she is bi) and I suported her. Then there was this one night we were talking and she was venting to me and just out of no where I asked her out. I am straight and to this day she has been the only girl I have ever been with or really found attractive for that matter. But I was afraid to put it in the open and I never talked to her about it. For a year we were like that. I'd see her, i'd listen to her, i'd help her with her problems, i'd hold her, I had sex with her, but I would never talk to her about MY feelings. In the end she left me for another girl, she said that she loved me but she wanted to be with someone she could have a furture with and not hide it. I realized too late that I love her. I still love her, even after two years. Now we are just starting to be able to talk as friends again.

I don't want you to make the same mistakes I did. But again everyone's situation is different. I just hope I helped you.

the soul isnt so vibrant


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:40 pm


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Like I said, I really don't want to discourage or scare you. It seems to me like this relationship is really good for you and I'd really rather see it succeed.
Really... I don't know what it means that you are both so self-restrained after this long. Obviously you're both taking it seriously, but it seems to me that it rather goes without saying that your relationship would be a lot better were you each more... Comfortable being in it.
Rather than view your second anniversary as a time of trepidation or the demise of your relationship, you could instead try viewing it as a golden opportunity, one that you just might not get again.
I recommend a classic, grand romantic gesture. Frankly I'm terrible at these myself, though I did once hear a very charming one where a girl talked about how she hand painted boxes and filled them with candy and hid them and did a little scavenger-hunt type thing with her boyfriend one year when she didn't have the money to buy him a more traditional gift. I'm not saying that's the route that you should go, nor do I know what your financial situation is but I do think that you should do something out of the ordinary. I think that if you want it to be permanent (and it certainly sounds like you do), if you can afford it, you may want to go the route of some sort of jewelry. It can be as tastefully manly as anything you can imagine, but it should be something lasting that could be worn, something that would remind him of you, and it should be an unmistakably romantic gesture... And it should also come with a confession of love.
I know this is out of the ordinary for the two of you, but I think that may be just what you need. If both of you keep yourselves so tightly bottled, I fear that after those endorphins are gone you may just find yourselves... worn out.
When I think about how scared you must be by saying it, I remember my wife, literally almost sick with fear when trying to tell me. Believe me when I say that I know what it is that I suggest, but if it's still this hard to say after two years, it's pretty clear to me that time won't make it any easier.
You certainly don't have to take any of these suggestions, but I can't shake the feeling that if you don't do something special and sincere, you may find yourself regretting it for a very long time.
And in the hopes of lightening things just a bit...
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;u; Thank you.
That sounds scary as ********, and I'm getting all embarrassed and uncomfortable just thinking about it but I'm gonna try because I think he's worth it.
Yes I can, god damn it scream !
PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:28 pm


I guess I'm not really seeing a problem. A couple is a couple, you don't have to fit some kind of model gay/straight poster image. So you're both not overly romantic. Who cares?

Sometimes people are just not that intimate with each other.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:57 pm


the soul isnt so vibrant
First I'm really happy for you two.
Second with your anniversary coming up why don't you try to do something nice for the both of you, not a dinner that would make you both awkward. Try concert tickets to a band you both like?
Third don't wait forever to tell him you love him. Don't just throw it out there and scar him but don't put it off until it's too late. Since you have mentioned not really talking to him about this stuff he may feel that your relationship is going no where and want to move on to something more stable.
Fourth talk to him. Tell him how you feel.
Fifth of caurse I'm a girl so it could be different. Just going off my experience.
Sixth the complicated part, my experience.

So there was this girl that I had known since a young age and we had been friends for a long time, I even go so far as to say at one point I was closer with her before we started dating as I was with my best friend. She told me everything. Including when she figured out that she was bi (she now prefers girls but still says she is bi) and I suported her. Then there was this one night we were talking and she was venting to me and just out of no where I asked her out. I am straight and to this day she has been the only girl I have ever been with or really found attractive for that matter. But I was afraid to put it in the open and I never talked to her about it. For a year we were like that. I'd see her, i'd listen to her, i'd help her with her problems, i'd hold her, I had sex with her, but I would never talk to her about MY feelings. In the end she left me for another girl, she said that she loved me but she wanted to be with someone she could have a future with and not hide it. I realized too late that I love her. I still love her, even after two years. Now we are just starting to be able to talk as friends again.

I don't want you to make the same mistakes I did. But again everyone's situation is different. I just hope I helped you.

1. Thank you
2. I think it's a bit late to get tickets to something good now but I could probably do something equally awesome.
3. Normally, this is where I would say "I'm not even sure if I do love him yet", but honestly at this point, it's starting to get obvious how I feel, ain't it? And I'd be lying if I said that that thought doesn't scare me every waking moment of my life. The thought of him leaving because he feels like I don't care about him enough is beyond something I think I can handle.
4. I will. I won't let what I have get away from me because I couldn't open my damn mouth.
5. Thank you, really. For telling me your story, for the advice, and for the support. It really helped.
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