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 Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 7:03 pm
Dude, that's probably gonna backfire and he's gonna end up being a baby eater. Just like the rest of society. And dude, you look like that guy. Ummm. s**t i had it. Uhhhhh oh well.. I'll edit this later and add the name of that guy.
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 7:35 pm
Well as long as he conforms to something I say.
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:17 pm
FiaNari I think there is a false sense of hope in the sense that a 12-year old blackbelt is not a 25 year old black belt and I think that point should be highly stressed. However, if he's training was consistent throughout the years to come and he picked up other MA's or followed even further into the MA of choice, sure it's a valid experience. 90% of all people have been in a MA class before in their life, does it show? Not usually. I for one will not make the same my parents did with me, when my kid turns 8 he is beginning his path. Do I care if he's interested? NO!!!He is learning Kung Fu first because of the mentality(of course by Kung Fu I also mean the study of Taoism and such), why? Simple. Teach your kid to be free of desires and you'll never have to pay for a Yugi-Oh card in your life(or have to whoop his a** in the process). Not only that, Kung Fu is particularily great for punishment methods relevant to endless stance work. If I was 8 and my dad told me, "Son I'll give ya two choices, a)I'll whoop your a** or b) You have to stay completely still for twenty minutes even if your knees start giving up or anything of the sort." I would so choose option a) all the time. Sorry if this seemed a bit too twisted... I'm not sure how to respond to this. But you cannot force someone into Martial Arts. If he has no interest, you will just be tossing your money into a pit. if you enjoy giving your money away to lost causes, please, by all means send it my way, I will be more then happy to spend your money on Kung Fu. Kids are rebellious by nature, by forcing him into two things he may not want to do, you are just living through your child. And that is never pretty. You will be one of those parants who goes to events and cries foul whenever a rule is judged against your child. Don't be one of those assholes. When your child is eight, sign him up, and send him on his way. If after the first class he goes "That was terrible, and boring. I do not wish to go back" Tell him to stick it out for a few more weeks, the first day is often deceiving. If after a month, he still has the exact same thoughts as he did on day one, I'm sorry, any ammount of forcing isnt going to work. Down the road he may change his mind, the trick is always make the choice available, but never ram it down his throat.
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:34 pm
See here would be his problem, I would teach him, so it would cost no money, he wouldn't waste his time socializing and better yet I don't have to drive anywhere.
Also, I am Hispanic, my parents have never let me have my way, their parents were the same with them and I will be the same.
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:08 am
FiaNari1 See here would be his problem, I would teach him, so it would cost no money, he wouldn't waste his time socializing and better yet I don't have to drive anywhere. Also, I am Hispanic, my parents have never let me have my way, their parents were the same with them and I will be the same. I dont think you realize that in order to learn something, there has to be some interest to. Or retain it that is. I have learned how to do many things over my life, few of them I can do now, due to lack of interest in the subject. I got a 70% or so in geography three years ago. I took it becasue I had to. Now I cannot tell you anything about geography. Likewise with martial arts. If the student has no interest, it will not improve them in any ways shape or form. Just make them bored and pissy.
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:53 am
Threx FiaNari1 See here would be his problem, I would teach him, so it would cost no money, he wouldn't waste his time socializing and better yet I don't have to drive anywhere. Also, I am Hispanic, my parents have never let me have my way, their parents were the same with them and I will be the same. I dont think you realize that in order to learn something, there has to be some interest to. Or retain it that is. I have learned how to do many things over my life, few of them I can do now, due to lack of interest in the subject. I got a 70% or so in geography three years ago. I took it becasue I had to. Now I cannot tell you anything about geography. Likewise with martial arts. If the student has no interest, it will not improve them in any ways shape or form. Just make them bored and pissy. Thats a false statement, I got 9x% in my finals through high school and college and I've only had three interests:- A) ********) Training C) Spending my parents cash The desire to learn seems to be drawn from an archetypcal curiosity, some have it stronger then others, some are innately more intelligent then others, some are alot more motivated then others. You could however argue that the desire to learn often comes more from a need and a mindset then a desire. FiaNari I think there is a false sense of hope in the sense that a 12-year old blackbelt is not a 25 year old black belt and I think that point should be highly stressed. However, if he's training was consistent throughout the years to come and he picked up other MA's or followed even further into the MA of choice, sure it's a valid experience. 90% of all people have been in a MA class before in their life, does it show? Not usually. I for one will not make the same my parents did with me, when my kid turns 8 he is beginning his path. Do I care if he's interested? NO!!!He is learning Kung Fu first because of the mentality(of course by Kung Fu I also mean the study of Taoism and such), why? Simple. Teach your kid to be free of desires and you'll never have to pay for a Yugi-Oh card in your life(or have to whoop his a** in the process). Not only that, Kung Fu is particularily great for punishment methods relevant to endless stance work. If I was 8 and my dad told me, "Son I'll give ya two choices, a)I'll whoop your a** or b) You have to stay completely still for twenty minutes even if your knees start giving up or anything of the sort." I would so choose option a) all the time. Sorry if this seemed a bit too twisted... As a Psychology major I'm going to have to disagree, the rebelliousness of the brain stems solely from repression, a greater level in males too. Also you'll find alot of young Kung Fu practitioners grow up deluded to themselves, socially detatched and generally targets. You would rather have your child following you out of a sheltered and nutured fear instead of respect?
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:46 am
You know what you are right in more ways than one. However I am just really frighten of a child of mine becoming disgraceful. Granted, I would love a son of mine to respect me, but it is so hard to accomplish these days, there's no real shortcut to it.
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:11 am
FiaNari You know what you are right in more ways than one. However I am just really frighten of a child of mine becoming disgraceful. Granted, I would love a son of mine to respect me, but it is so hard to accomplish these days, there's no real shortcut to it. ..Thank God for contraceptives.
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:16 pm
Amen and a halleluya!!Praise the Lord!!
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:14 pm
FiaNari You know what you are right in more ways than one. However I am just really frighten of a child of mine becoming disgraceful. Granted, I would love a son of mine to respect me, but it is so hard to accomplish these days, there's no real shortcut to it. Yeah there is. It's called a backhand to the face. It instantly brings respect.
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:17 pm
I think punishment as a means to respect was already thoroughly analyzed.
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:35 am
Mirko_Filipovic FiaNari You know what you are right in more ways than one. However I am just really frighten of a child of mine becoming disgraceful. Granted, I would love a son of mine to respect me, but it is so hard to accomplish these days, there's no real shortcut to it. Yeah there is. It's called a backhand to the face. It instantly brings respect. and a court case
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:15 pm
I dont agree. Ive seen plenty of kickass kids come out of some childrens programs. I agree that alot of kid's classes are just.. daycares. But they're not bullshidos. I remember back in my Kids class days, they did teach me some simple self defense things that I do still remember now. Even though I didnt learn how to smash some TKD guys face in or anything during that time. Yes, there is alot of bullshido in kids classes, but these parents just want to give their kids away to get a ******** minute to themselves while their kids think they're becoming ninjas, and the parents want them to do something active. They get that in martial arts, I suppose, but any decent school will teach the kids an ample amount of self defense. If not, then the entire school is bullshido, I suppose.
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 11:08 am
Speaking as someone who's an instructor(read that: working-my-a**-off-on-credential-teacher-in-training) and a student of martial/fighting arts, I think that there has to be desire in the student for him to excel, as well as some home training before he even enters the gym. I would personally wait to see if my kid expressed a desire to take martial/fighting arts, but would also watch the instructor. I love the martial/fighting arts school I attend now, and the instructors are excellent, which is also instilled in the kids. However, I attended a place previous to it that had kids classes, and wasn't nearly as strong on the adult classes. The child has to want to be there for it to be as effective, but the instructor plays a big role in that as well.
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 11:41 am
I strongly disagree with the topic creator. In Thailand, kids start out as young as 4, and are known to have full contact fights at these young ages to the best of their ability. The kids train equally as hard... nothing McGym-ish about that.
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