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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:29 pm


I HAVE A LEGIT QUESTION NOW. Don't fish eat dead thread that fall into water? (Or maybe I'm misremembering, it's been forever). SO MAYBE they could eat thread.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:12 am


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I HAVE A LEGIT QUESTION NOW. Don't fish eat dead thread that fall into water? (Or maybe I'm misremembering, it's been forever). SO MAYBE they could eat thread.
As Dizzy pointed out in-thread, live Thread is not eaten by anything, but drowned, dead Thread can be eaten. Dolphins eat it, and fish.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:37 am


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I haven't read too many of the books so I am not sure what is Anne and what is Todd related subject matter, however my question is this: Are whers used to fight thread, I read that they eat the deadly spores, is that true here?
They do not eat Thread. That's gross. It will give you the worst gas ever. No Thread-eating.

But! They can flame. Without firestone they can belch fireballs, but with it they can actually manage semi-controlled gouts of flame like a dragon's. Unfortunately, it can be challenging to get firestone for whers because no one thinks of them as needing it and the Weyrs hog it all.
Wait, why would whers be able to flame without firestone? I don't remember any canon basis for that. And while flits can flame without specifically being fed firestone, I always assumed that they must be able to find firestone on their own, much like their wild ancestors must have. Flits wouldn't be able to have evolved the ability to flame if they couldn't find firestone in the first place, after all.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:12 pm


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I haven't read too many of the books so I am not sure what is Anne and what is Todd related subject matter, however my question is this: Are whers used to fight thread, I read that they eat the deadly spores, is that true here?
They do not eat Thread. That's gross. It will give you the worst gas ever. No Thread-eating.

But! They can flame. Without firestone they can belch fireballs, but with it they can actually manage semi-controlled gouts of flame like a dragon's. Unfortunately, it can be challenging to get firestone for whers because no one thinks of them as needing it and the Weyrs hog it all.
Wait, why would whers be able to flame without firestone? I don't remember any canon basis for that. And while flits can flame without specifically being fed firestone, I always assumed that they must be able to find firestone on their own, much like their wild ancestors must have. Flits wouldn't be able to have evolved the ability to flame if they couldn't find firestone in the first place, after all.
Since McCaffrey never offered a canonical explanation for firelizards, my understanding is that flaming is an innate talent of theirs, and that was what I was using for the basis of my response about whers flaming. I'm sorry to have stepped on your toes.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:19 pm


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Since McCaffrey never offered a canonical explanation for firelizards, my understanding is that flaming is an innate talent of theirs, and that was what I was using for the basis of my response about whers flaming. I'm sorry to have stepped on your toes.
I thought she had; she mentioned that flits have a the second stomach , which the settlers initially had no idea what it was for, but was in fact used to digest firestone. After the First Fall the settlers realized the stomach's purpose, and it was by observing fire lizards that they found the first firestone deposits, which could at the time be accessed without mining.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:24 pm


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Since McCaffrey never offered a canonical explanation for firelizards, my understanding is that flaming is an innate talent of theirs, and that was what I was using for the basis of my response about whers flaming. I'm sorry to have stepped on your toes.
I thought she had; she mentioned that flits have a the second stomach , which the settlers initially had no idea what it was for, but was in fact used to digest firestone. After the First Fall the settlers realized the stomach's purpose, and it was by observing fire lizards that they found the first firestone deposits, which could at the time be accessed without mining.
She also mentioned that whers were deliberately bred to be different from dragons and firelizards so that a plague couldn't wipe out all the Thread-killing draconic things on Pern. I did not recall that portion of the books, but I don't see anything wrong with allowing whers to do more than be snarly and unattractive.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:38 pm


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She also mentioned that whers were deliberately bred to be different from dragons and firelizards so that a plague couldn't wipe out all the Thread-killing draconic things on Pern. I did not recall that portion of the books, but I don't see anything wrong with allowing whers to do more than be snarly and unattractive.
As it's your setting, its certainly your right to determine how various elements of the setting are handled. I was simply under the impression that this is a mostly canon shop, and was asking for clarification on a point that did not match my understanding on canon. Though now for my own reference I'm tempted to research that point, as I'm a librarian and prone to doing that sort of thing. I hope my local library has Dragonsdawn in.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:11 pm


Question about shop canon. The Flights guide mentions that stand-ins are a possibility, but doesn't mention whether or not barring/just locking your door is a thing? Obviously not a common thing, nor conducive to goldclutching, but a possible thing under the right circumstances?

I mean, I'm assuming the answer is yes, since otherwise you'd end up with 13-year-olds psychically compelled to bang adults, and Gaia is PG-13. But I wanted to make sure since it's kind of applicable to a character background.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:57 am


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Question about shop canon. The Flights guide mentions that stand-ins are a possibility, but doesn't mention whether or not barring/just locking your door is a thing? Obviously not a common thing, nor conducive to goldclutching, but a possible thing under the right circumstances?

I mean, I'm assuming the answer is yes, since otherwise you'd end up with 13-year-olds psychically compelled to bang adults, and Gaia is PG-13. But I wanted to make sure since it's kind of applicable to a character background.
Oh, good gracious yes. That is totally an allowable thing. It didn't occur to me to mention that, but you're right. It should definitely be included as an option.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:17 pm


Are green dragons/flits capable of laying gold eggs? The recent breeding rolls somewhat confused me with this since I've never heard of a green flit laying a gold egg.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:41 pm


We're doing a 1/6 chance of a gold egg for two metallic parents (gold/bronze), a 1/10 chance for one metallic parent (gold/whatever or bronze/whatever), and a 1/20 chance for no metallic parents. ^^ This may not be strictly canonly, but we didn't want people breeding nonmetallic flits/whers to feel left out, etc.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:03 pm


Well then will green dragons be able to lay gold eggs? I mean I could maybe see greens laying a rare bronze, but will greens shop canon wise be able to lay queen eggs? Also what will be done to control the metallic numbers since the natural color restriction kept the balance and by having both female colors be able to lay them has increased the population two fold? I mean we can always use more bronzes and golds and I don't see the problem really. Does the shop even have a color control number? I mean personally I would like to maybe see a green dragon lay a gold if all the golds died off. It'd be a fun meta plot.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:09 pm


Green dragons can't lay eggs. Period. They were genetically engineered to be infertile.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:13 pm


Fey beat me to it, hah. XD

We really just wanted there to be a little more variety in green flit/wher clutches, both to entertain colorists and owners. I think if we stuck to book canon of greens mostly clutching greens, it might lead to a huge green overpopulation since our green eggs aren't eaten by predators/etc unlike the book green eggs! XD

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