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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:01 pm


note: if I'm overstepping my bounds in places here, I sincerely apologize!


Do you own a knight? If so, please list them:
Euphrates Page of Neptune

How long have you played your knight?
Not much, admittedly!

If you don't have a knight, are you questing one?
N/A

How long have you been questing?
N/A

What do you like about the knight faction?
I like that they are kind of a foil to both the senshi and the Negaverse. Put up against the senshi, they're a class whose powers are drawn from ancient sacred tradition passed down through generations --while the powers of a senshi are given to them by their destiny. And, against Negas... well, Negas are corrupted Knights!

They have a ton of potential to tell some very interesting stories, basically.

What do you dislike about the knight faction?
In retrospect, the restrictiveness of powers concepts. Here is a thing I wrote / a suggested fix:

Quote:
The problem with Knights is that they were set up to be purely a support class, while their peer factions -- Senshi, Negaverse, and the DMC -- have the potential to be offensive OR defensive OR support, depending on how their weapons and magic evolve. This is definitely quite restrictive AND more than a little imbalanced! Aspects were supposed to help fix that, but it wasn't quite enough either. This is largely my fault, and I apologize for making Knights less fun to play than they should be!

So, I think the way to fix them is to lift some restriction on what weapons they can have, and how their magic can work. As long as your concept fits in with your planet's theme, you can....

1. Allow more weapons that can be used in self-defense: Swords, axes, shuriken and morning-stars should remain a Negaverse thing -- they are Knights of Chaos, and if Chaos had any theme words they would probably be along the lines of Destruction, Silence and Malice. However, this shouldn't restrict Knights from getting something like a staff, a shield, or anything else that can be used to block, parry or counter attacks. Knights are protectors, so they should be equipped to protect themselves!

If any player with an existing Page or Squire wants to change their weapon concept to fit the new guidelines, they can upgrade to it with staff approval. Just be sure to make it a reasonable progression from their previous weapon.

2. Allow OFFENSIVE magic for Knights who DON'T have effective combat weapons: This is a simple change! Channeled Knight magic can now hurt people. The more combat-ready your weapon is, however, the more support-based your spells should end up being. This way you can have Knights who are extremely formidable magicians, or Knights acting as hybrid-class strategists who balance being in the fray with helping others. In the end you still have a play style that's unique to this class!

If an existing Knight of ANY STAGE wants to change their magic concept, they can with staff approval.

Obtaining a different set of spells is easy to explain IC: while Senshi are beings of destiny, Knights are beings of discipline and tradition. In the past their magic was taught to them by a mentor (typically the previous Knight of their Wonder) or learned by studying and contemplating their Wonder. So, a Knight with a new spell concept would simply discover that they've been performing their magic incorrectly. This can be learned from their ancestor, a vision of the past or a realization that things don't feel quite right. After that they would learn the true form and function of their magic, and lose the ability to perform their old spells.

I am willing to help anyone with any revises to Knight concepts that would need to be done, even if just in an unofficial capacity. There can be a thread in App Quests for the review and approval of any revises folks want to make to Knight powered profiles.


I also agree that Knights still seem a bit secondary to senshi in the grand scheme of things. They should have the potential to be just as game changing as senshi, even if it is not in the same ways that senshi are!

What would you like to see added to this faction?
As the former manager of the Knights faction, I had plans for the direction they were going to go in, that fulfills some of the things listed below. I am more than happy to send these plans your way -- or put them up as a suggestion for general player interest -- if you would still like to utilize them.

In general / as a player, though:

-A purpose/direction of their own
-A sanctuary of their own (that is not the Moon City)
-Ways for characters to learn and consider the fact that Negas are corrupted Knights (besides purification)
-Pretty much anything that helps them develop into as much of a game-relevant faction as senshi
- A templar!! IMO the first templar should get to do something REALLY COOL and INTEGRAL TO THE METAPLOT, the same way ITNOTM's first Princess (Chronos) did in the Barren Pines meta. This would do a lot to give the faction more foundation, both IC and OOC.

What would you like to never see become a part of this faction?
Anything that would make playing a Knight less fun.

If you do not have a knight and are not questing one, is there anything that we could add to this faction that would make you want one?
N/A
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:36 pm


Do you own a knight? If so, please list them: No.
How long have you played your knight? N/A
If you don't have a knight, are you questing one? Nope!
How long have you been questing? N/A

What do you like about the knight faction?

-Light version of Negaverse, so gives a way for weapons

-Magic weapons!

-Potential to create "orders" of people who have a connection and want to work together

-People who can have a different relationship with Negaverse officers

-Alternative for people whose characters do not fit Senshi, but would not corrupt either

-Allies for Senshi--note I do not say servants/supporters

What do you dislike about the knight faction?

I dislike that Knights do not seem to be allowed independence. While I understand that they served/answered to a Princess in the past, the present shop environment is not the past. They are independent now and should be treated as such. They need ways to communicate with Senshi. They need ways to travel without Senshi. They need things to do that are KNIGHT things that they can then TALK WITH SENSHI about--and not just vice versa, which has been the case up until now.

Also, I see many people saying that "knights have no purpose/direction." I feel this complaint is applicable not just for knights but for Order characters in general. Senshi and Knights have the same major purposes: (1) protect the innocent and each other, (2) fight the forces of Chaos, and (3) purify those corrupted by Chaos. That's basically it. If the Knights have no purpose or direction, then Senshi don't have any either. Maybe this is an overarching problem that needs to be addressed? There's no real impetus to find the Moon Princess, and that is not a major focus ICly, so I'm not including that as a "purpose."

I've, frankly, always been confused about the idea of Knights being "neutral good." Aren't... all Order characters like that? That doesn't seem like a real distinction between Knights and Senshi, but rather an artificially mandated one. I would, therefore, like to see more ways that Knights are different than Senshi, how they can support the forces of Order in ways Senshi can't.

What would you like to see added to this faction?

-Some way to aid in purification/purify. It seems to me that if Knights are the light version of Negaverse officers--who have the power to corrupt--then they should have the ability to purify.

-More about the aspects and how they can be used/level up as Knights increase in power.

-A sanctuary/meeting ground

-A templar--perhaps not right away, not until the group becomes better organized/it is decided what a templar would do, but they are the only faction currently without a fourth level character. It seems way overdue.

-DMC Knights? Not sure what anyone else thinks about this, but if all it is is sticking a different spirit inside, then why not knights too? Guess this could be problematic.

-An event/something where Knights can lead Senshi instead of vice versa. I, ICly and OOCly, view Knights as the allies of Senshi--and allies give and take equally. Up until now, this alliance is only vaguely defined, and too often Knights are asked to follow along with whatever the Senshi are doing. I wouldn't mind my Senshi being pulled into what the Knights are doing for a change. xD

-Something to unite Senshi and Knights! They... sort of know that they're allies, but not really. An event or plot where they have to work together--and it's explained/better shown how and why they need to work together--would be boss.

What would you like to never see become a part of this faction?

-Guardian Cats

-Canon Princesses (Jupiter, Venus, etc.)

-Chibis

-Militaristic Structure

-Canon Knights (i.e. Adonis)

-Subservience to anyone

If you do not have a knight and are not questing one, is there anything that we could add to this faction that would make you want one?

More feeling that Knights are independent characters with a reason to exist and stuff to do.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:12 pm


Do you own a knight? If so, please list them: Yes, Troy Squire.
How long have you played your knight? Over a year - since October 2011.
If you don't have a knight, are you questing one? ---
How long have you been questing? ---

What do you like about the knight faction? I loooove the costumes, themes and creativity that can go into creating a Knight. I love the guidelines that it has, and that a group of Knights from the same planet can stylistically look similar but each be so unique! It's has that rare and perfect balance of uniformity and individuality. I also love the Aspects, even though I haven't gotten a chance to play with those yet on my own Knight, since its another way to tie the theme into the character. The more fun and creative ways the planet's theme can be tied in the better, I say!

What do you dislike about the knight faction? Knights have a bit of a disadvantage in combat - particularly Pages against other stage one characters. While Senshi have magic and Lieutenants have weapons (albeit common or non-magical), the Knight's weapons aren't even meant to be used in combat like a Negaverse agent's weapon is since Knights are supposed to be fighting more with their fists. In later stages, Negaverse weapons only get stronger and more powerful, and Senshi magic also increases. Knights get the ability to use their magic, but their magic is not meant to be offensive like Senshi magic or Negaverse weapons. They must channel their magic, and can be interrupted while doing so. While this all works well when Knights are in group combat, the vast majority of battles are one on one in which a Knight is likely to have a disadvantage unless they are really well-trained in physical combat - but even then, Senshi and Negaverse agents are trained in this as well but also get benefits of magical attacks and weaponry.

What would you like to see added to this faction? I would like to see more of an advantage - or leveling of the playing field - for Knights in combat. I would also like to see ways for Knights to communicate (perhaps Senshi text messages can appear to them in the form of letters like their signet rings would send). As Knights run parallel to Negaverse agents, it may be neat to see some sort of unique creature they can own as a pet - perhaps not used for combat, but travel or other RP purposes. Or can be used for combat, or travel, or something else, but only for one thing. And again, I love that Knights have things tied to their central theme of the planet - so perhaps these pets would relate to the themes as well.

What would you like to never see become a part of this faction? A mass outbreak of herpes.

If you do not have a knight and are not questing one, is there anything that we could add to this faction that would make you want one? ---
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:36 pm


Do you own a knight? If so, please list them: Yes, Celsus Squire of Chronos.
How long have you played your knight? A little over a year.
If you don't have a knight, are you questing one? I'm questing a Polaris knight atm.
How long have you been questing? A little under a year.

What do you like about the knight faction? I love the designs and the overall concepts. I like that each has their own style, colors, symbols, etc. that makes them unique.

What do you dislike about the knight faction? Pretty much what's already been said. Direction is a HUGE thing. That, and they've always been considered not as good as Senshi; they're always supportive, never offensive. The line between Senshi magic and Knight magic is very fuzzy; to me, it's less like Knights are a different faction and more like the Knights are like less-powerful Senshi who only provide a bit of help at times. They're basically like background singers.

That, and they're entirely separate. There's nothing to guide or direct them. At the moment, they exist only to support the Senshi, which is really very difficult to both play and not all that ideal. It's not very fun to RP someone when you feel as though you're not really benefiting your character or yourself, or working on their growth and development (ICly, not OOCly). The Knights are currently stagnant. I've loved having Celsus, and he's my baby, but my drive for RPing him sort of petered off a bit because of this.

I'm going for the unpopular opinion here and say that I don't really want a Templar - at least not one that isn't an NPC. I feel like there could be something else other than a person for the Knights to direct them. They already have Princesses to serve under and protect, as well as other Senshi; I don't feel a Templar would be much different. I know most will disagree with this, but I feel as though the Knights could use something other than a person to guide and direct them; some sort of unifying force.

Also, this might just be me, but I honestly don't know if knights from one planet/wonder will be as inspired if the Templar is from a different one. In the Negaverse, everyone is from the same place - the Negaverse - so when someone reaches 4th stage, it's pretty big. Same with senshi. But the knights are all separate - you have the planets, and then the Cosmos / Polaris / Chronos / etc knights. A Mercury Templar might not have the same impact on a Uranus knight as it does on a Mercury knight, because while they're all still knights, the lack of a common goal / unification makes it difficult to relate to one another.

If there is a Templar, I feel it would be better if it were not a player-run character just at first. In the beginning, I feel that the first Templar should be an NPC - but again, this is just my own personal opinion, and I know a lot of people want Templars.

Also, I really like what Mouse had to say about weapons / offensive magic.

What would you like to see added to this faction? Already stated above, pretty much.

What would you like to never see become a part of this faction? Militarized Knights. Please, no. That may work for the Negaverse, which is built in a military like fashion, but I have always liked how the Knights work without the need for ranks or anything. I honestly don't think it would be a good idea to make things more militarized.

If you do not have a knight and are not questing one, is there anything that we could add to this faction that would make you want one? N/A

** I realize some of my opinions are on the opposite of some. Please understand that I mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone at all! **

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:42 pm


Do you own a knight? If so, please list them: No (So, yeah...some of this may not make sense to those who understand the faction a little better.)
How long have you played your knight? N/A
If you don't have a knight, are you questing one? Why, yes!
How long have you been questing? Less than a month, really, but I've been working on ideas off and on ever since they were made available.

What do you like about the knight faction?
  • I like the creative/thematic structure.
  • I like the chance for those who get princes or princesses to be able to "unlock" new worlds for knights to be from, opening that world to other characters and players.
  • I like them being what a Negaverse offer can become, when purified.


What do you dislike about the knight faction?
  • I think they lack direction. Given their background, it doesn't entirely make sense for them to be completely unified in any mission.
  • Without any innate attack ability, it feels that most of them can't function in a battle without offensive senshi there to help them. This feels....useless for a warrior charged with defending a wonder when no senshi would normally have been expected to aid them in the past.
  • Non-Earth Knights being from Earth (or that it is the norm).
  • Knight weapons seem more like something that just get in the way in a fist-fight and, given the nature of knight magic, encounters alone with an enemy seem like they would rely heavily on hand-to-hand combat ability.
  • Earth and Jupiter feel too similar to me, visually. I sometimes have difficulty telling their knights apart without looking for symbols. (Alternatively, this could be used as a precedent to permit visual themes to be re-used on other planets later on)


What would you like to see added to this faction?
  • Direction/metaplot related to their associated planets. This may be a bit much, but I feel like each of the planets has a lot of metaplot potential that is only accessible to this faction. It may not make sense for all of the knights to be working together, but if each planet could offer a goal, that would be good. Perhaps the planets could also be the safe-haven that many other players are looking for with this faction. Aside from that, just a goal that isn't "figure out what your goal is."
  • Some innate physical combat ability. Martial arts or something. I would actually like to see this eclipse their magic abilities. They are warriors and they should feel like warriors, not merely the handler of a magic item.
  • MOAR princesses and princes! I'm only half serious on this....I really like what they bring to the knight faction, but I totally understand and respect the limitations on doing this.


What would you like to never see become a part of this faction?
  • I would like to say "no universal goal for all knights", but I'm not entirely against that, if it would make sense for knights of every planet to be involved in.

If you do not have a knight and are not questing one, is there anything that we could add to this faction that would make you want one? N/A
PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:47 pm


Do you own a knight? If so, please list them: Yes, Delphi of Polaris
How long have you played your knight? She's not powered up yet. I've had her a 17 days.
If you don't have a knight, are you questing one? Not questing one.
How long have you been questing? No longer questing.

What do you like about the knight faction?
I like that they aren't a part of the Negaverse, one extreme, nor are they a senshi, the other extreme. They are a middle ground, for those who want neither end of the spectrum. This is a nice answer to that which I like. I like how they are based off the different planets. and that any senshi who goes royal can have a knight of that planet. I like the tie in to wonders and such as well.

What do you dislike about the knight faction?
I don't like how they come off as second class and submissive to other senshi (second class) and their princess (submissive). I mean what if in their personality they are a dominate type of person, or independent, than wouldn't it go against their personalty? So are they supposed to change personality or what? I'd rather like to see them as an equal and able to stand on their own in a conversation or in a fight. They seem weaker, in some cases, than even a Negaverse Lieutenant rather than equal in power (when the knight is at page level). I find that a bit unbalanced.

I dislike that they don't seem to have a safe haven for themselves, where as the senshi and those fighting for chaos have safe places to go. Again, it seems unbalanced to me.

Knights also don't seem to have any real direction, aside from following the senshi around. It seems like protecting civilians isn't a big issue which they need to handle now, since the Negaverse has drastically cut back on attacking civilians. So I'd like to see them with some direction and purpose, more than they'd previously had perhaps?

I actually have the same issue, as Guine, with the title Templar. But that's me. I really don't like the term being used for fourth stage. And really for the same reasons Guine pointed out, so I'm not going to go about saying the same words she's already said - especially since she said it all so nicely.

What would you like to see added to this faction?
I'd like to see them get a place/haven of their own so they have a place to meet. I know they have the moon but they need to piggy back a ride there. And really the moon isn't a place just for knights, a place their own. I'd really like to see that among other things.

I'd also like to see them maybe, somehow, able to stand separate from senshi, with some more differences that allow them to stand on their own and really be something individual and unique.

Some sort of event would be nice, something with more focus on the knights, a way for them as a faction to grow and to become closer. Maybe they can during some event become more stand on their own, somehow. I'm really not sure but I would like to see them as more than how they come off seeming as second class.

What would you like to never see become a part of this faction?
Never chibi knights. I'd never want to see that. I also don't like the idea of guardian cats becoming attached to them, as they do for senshi. But only because I''d like to see something else for them - something unique to them.

I think for right now, till they have direction, that a fourth stage knight - Templar - might be too much. I really don't think I'd like to see that till something big happens for the faction, sort of like a test, to see how well certain knights handle things and unify the others and such, think of it as a showing of leadership skills. But for now I don't think a Templar is the right thing, not when knights as a whole need direction which I think if more important.

I think once a direction is established and such then yeah a Templar would be great.

If you do not have a knight and are not questing one, is there anything that we could add to this faction that would make you want one? N/A

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:53 am


Do you own a knight? If so, please list them: Yes: Avalon and (although I still haven't finished her art) Teide
How long have you played your knight? A while?? I took some hiatuses. Got Avalon in September of 2011 (and… tiede… is still hanging out as a wip…)
If you don't have a knight, are you questing one? ~
How long have you been questing? ~

What do you like about the knight faction? Purified alternative to the Negaverse? I like the idea of the Aspects but they don't seem to get used very often because let's be frank they're not too useful.

What do you dislike about the knight faction? It feels like its only point is to be a Cavalier replacement and a Senshi alternative. When I got Avalon, knights were a new thing and I seriously thought there'd be more added to them, but it's been… Aspects and then nothing at all. I don't like how they are basically Senshi servants, with the serving their Princess and planet; I know that can't change but like others have said, even a fourth-stage knight ends up ranked lower than their Princess. In cases where the Princess will likely never show up, like the solar knights, this won't affect play and works fine, but like, Polaris and Chronos knights… What's the benefit to going templar? You're a leader… but you're a leader of only your planet's knights, really? :/

I also kind of dislike the ALL KNIGHTS COME FROM EARTH THING, especially since there's like… descendant knight concerns. How can knights from Polaris have babies on Earth? Do they go back and then just abandon their kid? Like logistically it puzzles me in many ways.

I outright HATE that the Wonders are only accessible on the senshi planet cooldown!!!! "But it's a matter of fairness! Senshi can only access their planets at that schedule" DOESN'T FLY because the wonders are where the knights can get what guidance they can right now--their ancestors/mentors are there. And for Earth knights it's a little silly because realistically speaking their wonder ought to still be on Earth and thus accessible from Earth proper? So what's to stop Avalon from like, ollying out east of Dover and hanging out on her island? :Ta

What would you like to see added to this faction? I would like a Templar, yes, but I don't think a PC character should be the first Templar. A PC char being the first Princess was alright with me because it's something we've already got guidelines for in the form of the canon, but if we could just have a templar to lay things out and then die (MAYBE HE'S AN OLD GUY WITH A HUGE BEARD YESSS) or something at the ascension of the first PC templar, that'd be cool. Also metaplotty? "Oh no, our Faction's Obi-Wan who was expositing so much cool stuff about our faction got murdered by the Negaverse/DMC/space frogs!! VENGEANCE!!!"

And that's my Knight plot idea, bye.

Purified youma equivalents maybe? Like maybe not free-roaming order monsters trying to murder chaos monsters, but like, steeds! Or maybe even just allies in combat. Things really ARE unbalanced esp. with Knights vs Negas at this point, since Negas at second stage get youma AND sharp pointy weapons of useful AND teleporting AND magical rift access AND magical instant talk through magical crystal AND they're still faster/stronger than second stage knights who get a support power, their aspect, and the ability to visit their Wonder slightly more often.

Knights being able to purify would be really cool. Like someone said, Generals can corrupt, so Knights could be able to purify, logically? Maybe they don't gain the ability until like, fourth stage, but it should definitely be a thing that happens.

I think a cool thing to happen for stuff would be like, planet-specific goals/quests your knight can do. Maybe Earth knights go adventuring to find their wonder. They can reintroduce their Wonder to the world slowly. Maybe Mercury knights have to do like a quarian pilgrimage and bring back some kind of new technology or knowledge to bring their Wonder back to life or something. Venus knights can be charged with creating a new work of art to adorn something. Knights can get a neat thing like idk, a fun offensive power or something for completing their planetary quests...

What would you like to never see become a part of this faction?
Can't really think of anything except I'd rather not ever see a canon princess (although I think expositing more on sailor earth would be neat just because she's not show canon but shop canon) or (uncorrupted) Endymion happen. Messes stuff up, makes the knights even more of the second-class class than they are.

If you do not have a knight and are not questing one, is there anything that we could add to this faction that would make you want one?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 4:42 am


Do you own a knight? If so, please list them: Nope!
How long have you played your knight? --
If you don't have a knight, are you questing one? Yep; Acheron of Saturn!
How long have you been questing? Over a year or two, I think!

What do you like about the knight faction? that negas are the corrupted alternative to knights!! also WONDERS. I really like world-creating, so!

What do you dislike about the knight faction? that they actually do seem rather useless in combat, compared to senshi? It always seems like they're just backup to them, and I really do wish that more stuff could be done with them! Like on the Chaos side, the negas and the corrupted senshi and the DMC are all pretty equal in their own right, so I don't see why the Knights can't!

What would you like to see added to this faction? I do agree with the others about having a Templar, which could help unify the Knights at a whole? But there's also the issue of serving under different princesses; like how Chronos, Polaris or Iris don't have jurisdiction over the whole Senshi group in general, so it might not really help at all either.

MAYBE a special group of knights who aren't connected to any princesses? I like the idea of a wandering group of knights that travel all over the galaxy and not have themselves connected to someone in particular? I remember Eon being a scholar of sorts and travelling with scholars to learn about stuff around the galaxy so! I think it's an interesting concept, because in the past, Knights didn't really do much because it was a period of peace unless they were called to the Surrounding.

I also think that the issue that negas are the corrupted version of knights should be expanded on more often! I would really love to see more purified negas, and they could band together and take the stand to try and purify the negas because they are their BROTHERS and we need to SAVE THEM. I mean, we had that with lina, but that didn't really work out ): I think with a few more purifications and make the group a more significant number, it could really work!

and maybe they could have something a bit special too? like how kunzite was purified but still had some chaos influence because he had been corrupted TOO LONG; he could still teleport but couldn't access some other stuff of being a cavalier. I thought that was an interesting concept!

What would you like to never see become a part of this faction? Chibi Knights. :/

If you do not have a knight and are not questing one, is there anything that we could add to this faction that would make you want one? N/A

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:49 pm


Do you own a knight? If so, please list them: I do not own a knight.
How long have you played your knight?
If you don't have a knight, are you questing one? I am not questing for a knight.
How long have you been questing?

What do you like about the knight faction?
I love having them as an option and an ally on the Order side! Their mechanics and organization are different enough that, though the strive for the same overall goal of standing against Chaos, the knights feel as though they have their own "culture," as with the Dark Mirror Court. I also like their connection with the curruption/purification system and how they do not use weapons in the same way as the Negaverse. They were a great addition to the shop!

What do you dislike about the knight faction?
I dislike that their abilities are stifled compared to other factions. The Chaos side has physical and magical opportunities, each of which can go support or damage dealer with their powers. While I see the possible impetous in making knights support only (ie: drawing a stark line between Order and Choas with the point being violent weapons), I don't think it has played out effectively. (Since this is a public survey and the point has been brought up previously, I would like to also highlight that I used "stifled." I don't believe that support and healing powers are useless or that only offensive powers are useful.) They also share the 'weakness' of the Order side motivation: lack of direction. We've all been coasting on the meta-downtime staple of "chaos wants starseeds/energy and order stops them," though.

What would you like to see added to this faction?
Knights could do with more physically capable weapons, either via less-stabby items such as shields, bows, staves, gauntlets, or, in the other direction, a standard offensive weapon such as a broadsword, rapier, etc. OR breaking it down to a standard weapon/planet corrolation. Then make none of them look like Soul Calibur, haha. The latter would be in addition to the standard system to attempt to balance it, since it would be a standard weapon. (Perhaps the weapon can only be summoned so long? Only available in Squire/Knight stage? Shares the magic mana pool? idk, the idea would need polishing!) I'm in favor of a standard or restricted type to better distinguish them as a whole from the Negaverse.

Aspects complicate this suggestion, since they are already a standard, 'extra' power. It seems like most knight players are not fond of the aspects for whatever reason, so perhaps it could be a choice between a weapon and aspect? Or a plot where aspects are universally traded for weapons? (I don't mean to put such weight in my mere suggestions, but I realize the potential to be OP or too 'super special awesome class' is there.)

I'm good with giving them their own area. The Negaverse is the only faction to have a truly available safe haeven: as far as I'm aware, Mirrorspace is very limited, the Moon Sanctuary is limited, and corrupt senshi need to be escorted through the Rift (and can't go to their planet!). Perhaps knights have something like the Rift? That would be something the senshi would probably love to be transported to when the moon isn't available.

I'm all for a fourth level. Perhaps a meta that highlights the knights could be topped off by this? I don't think having Princesses have shaken up the senshi negatively and it seems like some knight players have really earned the slot. Even an NPC knight to start off would be okay, though I like the thought of rewarding players who worked through "the dark times."

I love all of Mouse's suggestions, too! I think I ended up kinda restating some of them, haha. Overall, I like balancing offense/defense between weapon and magic.

What would you like to never see become a part of this faction?
I'm not sure if this really goes here, but:
I have to admit that I'm not really sure where this feeling of subservience is coming from in play? Knights are supposed to more or less follow a ruler, by the meaning of the word "knight," but I have not seen this exercised negatively. As we know, most of the Princesses aren't even around and I do not see where it is said that the knight faction must obey everyone in the senshi faction. (ie: Example Knight would necessarily work in tandem with Princess Example, not Sailor Nyx. Likewise, most other senshi aren't beholden to princesses.) Perhaps it's a projection due to only having inoffensive magic?

Otherwise, chibi knights and being reliant on guardian cats; the basics!

If you do not have a knight and are not questing one, is there anything that we could add to this faction that would make you want one? Not really, but by no fault of the shop! I have my hands full with my current characters.
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