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 Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:18 pm
"Most will talk, some won't, but yes they are rather high and mighty in their opinion of themselves and their side of this war." It was rather annoying, especially when they got on a tangent and wouldn't let things go. "Some will actually back it, if you give them a shove. Some on the other hand will ask not to fight or...run. It's rather pathetic how some can be so sure of their side, even though they are wrong, and yet when push comes to shove they'll run." He'd had a few knights do that, or put up a very weak and flimsy - a mimsy really.
"I agree, I couldn't do like they do." Shaking his head as he followed a step or two behind the senshi. "Though I also would like to see their faces when they find out how wrong they and their side are. When they realize they are the bad guys." He spoke, something of a smirk, or a smile, settling upon his features. That would be a reaction he'd love to see, when they found out the truth and had all their beliefs shattered into dust and scattered to the four corners. How ever would they survive that realization?
"There are some though...some who will fight first and ask questions later, I've met a few such soldiers of goodness." The last word was spoken mockingly, they were hardly good. "Those individuals, the ones like this I've encountered, will talk then attack. They will try and tell us how wrong we are, how much hey wish for peace - an end to the war. And then they will surprise you by attacking, whether because of something we say or do." Thinking of Kallichore and Camelot when it came to this, as well as that masked senshi he'd encountered at the college library.
"If I ever we're purified, as I heard can be done, and made into a knight I'd seek out someone to bring me back to our side. If no one would be so kind I would kill myself. I'd rather be dead than a member of that ignorant, mostly incapable, disorganized lot." This time when he shook his head he also ran his fingers, rather roughly, through his long hair.
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:40 pm
"It is rather pathetic." She nodded in agreement, glad to know that he at least thought the same. "If you aren't willing to fight tooth and nail for what you believe in then what is the point in believing in it." Toutatis shook her head lightly, a small sigh passing through her lips. Really, the Order Senshi were just dumb. "And then on the flip side, how can you preach about wanting peace only to turn around and do something that isn't considered peaceful. I think they need to pick one or the other. In that same vein, there will never be peace. Not unless they come over to our side, the right side, or die." Another shake of her head. "They really need to figure out where they hell they stand in this whole thing. Really I mean, can they be anymore wishy washy?"Toutatis didn't care one way or the other. If they wanted to talk she'd knock their teeth in. If they wanted to fight she'd fight them, she might loose more right now but at least she would have an opportunity later on to go back and handle her business. And she would handle it. She was a little wary about outright killing civilians, killing was so permanent and why waste a battery like that? But if it came down to killing an Order Senshi if they would not accept that they were wrong well....she would cross that bridge when she came to it. "We all want an end to this war. But it will never end unless we convert or kill the Order side. Many I'm sure would argue that we need Order to keep a balance, but I say let them rot. Who needs them when they shackle us here to this planet." She stopped and turned half way towards him. A hand on her hip as she quirked yet another curious eyebrow. "I don't know much about purification as I don't have to worry about it. But I doubt that if you could remember that you were once Chaos aligned others from this side would forsake you if you wished to turn back. We need all the Chaos agents that we can get."
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:48 pm
"More importantly is what is the point in being involved in this war, in powering up, if you won't fight for your beliefs." He spoke thinking of his first few encounters with knights, page in rank. They shouldn't even power up if they weren't willing to do anything but dust youma, it was a pathetic reason to power up. "Precisely, hypocrites" He spoke, glad to see someone who felt much the same as he did, and who would voice these things as well. "Those particular individuals really should sort themselves out, make up their minds, and if they decide on peace they should leave this war. Whether they off themselves or they never power up again doesn't concern me really, it's one less enemy to deal with." Chuckling he almost wanted to hug her, she really was great to listen to!
"I don't know, but I'm sure they have some members who are more wishy washy. How it's possible I don't know but I do know that anything is possible at this point.But if they want peace they should know that even if this war were to end peace can never be obtained, not unless the normal civilian people are turned toward peace. Our war is only one thing keeping us all from peace." And he wasn't about to dilute himself into thinking the whole world could become some peaceful utopia. But he did think this war could end and end in peace, if only the senshi of order and the knights would change sides or die.
"We do need order, but not their kind. Not the sort which would bring back the white moon's queen, or the sort that is go good it turns inward and starts to kill those not as "More importantly is what is the point in being involved in this war, in powering up, if you won't fight for your beliefs." He spoke thinking of his first few encounters with knights, page in rank. They shouldn't even power up if they weren't willing to do anything but dust youma, it was a pathetic reason to power up. "Precisely, hypocrites" He spoke, glad to see someone who felt much the same as he did, and who would voice these things as well. "Those particular individuals really should sort themselves out, make up their minds, and if they decide on peace they should leave this war. Whether they off themselves or they never power up again doesn't concern me really, it's one less enemy to deal with." Chuckling he almost wanted to hug her, she really was great to listen to!
"I don't know, but I'm sure they have some members who are more wishy washy. How it's possible I don't know but I do know that anything is possible at this point.But if they want peace they should know that even if this war were to end peace can never be obtained, not unless the normal civilian people are turned toward peace. Our war is only one thing keeping us all from peace." And he wasn't about to dilute himself into thinking the whole world could become some peaceful utopia. But he did think this war could end and end in peace, if only the senshi of order and the knights would change sides or die.
"We do need order, but not their kind. Not the sort which would bring back the white moon's queen, or the sort that is go good it turns inward and starts to kill those not as [i]good[i/] as they redefine good and seek some perfection of the word." He was thinking of how if you had those who were so good they held every, even others of order, as not good enough and thus bad and sought to end them as well.
Stopping as well he looked up at her and smiled before nodding. "I should hope so, but if I were turned would they allow me the time to speak - to ask to return to the darkness." He hoped if ever such a horrid thing were to befall him he'd be given the time to ask and gain the help he would need. He would rather serve chaos than die but if it were between order or death he knew where his choice lie.
"You are lucky you needn't worry about such. I can only imagine how horrid a fate such would be for any of us. It is not something I would wish upon any on our side, and not because we need all the members we can get." But for every other reason. Her words though, her assurance, brought a certain warmth to him.[i]good[i/] as they redefine good and seek some perfection of the word." He was thinking of how if you had those who were so good they held every, even others of order, as not good enough and thus bad and sought to end them as well.
Stopping as well he looked up at her and smiled before nodding. "I should hope so, but if I were turned would they allow me the time to speak - to ask to return to the darkness." He hoped if ever such a horrid thing were to befall him he'd be given the time to ask and gain the help he would need. He would rather serve chaos than die but if it were between order or death he knew where his choice lie.
"You are lucky you needn't worry about such. I can only imagine how horrid a fate such would be for any of us. It is not something I would wish upon any on our side, and not because we need all the members we can get." But for every other reason. Her words though, her assurance, brought a certain warmth to him.
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 12:39 pm
Nodding as she listened, Toutatis could certainly agree with a many of the points that Benitoite made. "I would suppose they just like to prance around in pretty outfits while they spout their gospel of lies." Turning, she began to walk once more. Though slowly so that he could walk beside her thing time. She didn't like having to talk to someone over her shoulder all the time. Instead, being able to toss ideas back and forth while the person was next to it. And it was only polite one would suppose. "I mean, I understand using different tactics to prove one's point. But its just annoying not being met with consistency I suppose."A small idea came to her from this point of the conversation. "Benitoite..." Turning her head slightly, she looked at him with a bit of curiosity. "Has anyone even ever tried causing the Senshi to turn inwards on themselves? In all honesty, to me I would figure decent from within would be an easier way to dwindle down their numbers than fighting them from the outside." She would be surprised if no one had ever attempted it before. "If the Order Senshi and Knights were fighting within themselves and destroying each other..."She laughed. "Perhaps if it did happen you could join the Dark Mirror Court. Then you'd need not worry."
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:47 pm
"Yes, that would be the gist of it. Though calling some of those outfits pretty would be wrong. Some are far from it." Very far from it, he really did dislike some of the outfits he'd seen senshi wearing.
"It is, and even if it was consistent I dislike them spouting off how good they are, and how bad we are. Some make it sound like we are diseased, or poisoned, tainted even. It's irritating and if that were to be consistent I'd certainly have killed a few more of them by now." He wasn't about to deny, or hide, the fact he had taken the lives of more than one senshi. He had no reason to hide this fact, he was even proud of it to an extent.
Turning his eyes to her, his head turning slowly he shook his head slowly. "I don't think so. Not that I'm aware of at any rate. I don't think they'd turn inward to the point of killing each other, but it would certainly divide them more than they are. Perhaps make it where they can't trust each other for help in a battle." It was an idea e'd never thought of, though he did know they lacked the unification the Negaverse, and those who served chaos, had. He knew, from dealing with senshi, that it seemed some weren't even told anything and simply brought into this war and left to figure it out themselves, how horrendous a side they were part of!
"If they could be turned inward and not trust each other it would certainly make things interesting, even if they only had verbal arguments with each other." If it got to the point of senshi and knights actually outright fighting each other it would be a huge advantage, though how to get them on that downward spiral?
Perhaps it's something to think on, and discuss, further. As for joining your court I don't know, since I'm not a senshi. But if that were possible and I did find myself in such a situation it would be an option I would take. So long as I serve chaos I am happy."
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:58 am
A scrawny alley cat pranced across their path, causing Toutatis to stop for a second watching as it scampered away. Once it was out of site she continued to walk, the end of the alley way soon coming into view. "That was sarcasm." She pointed out to his remark about the pretty outfits. Of course, Toutatis enjoyed her own fuku just fine. It wasn't constricting and not too horrible intricate. "I am of the belief that there is no real defining line of good or evil. Nothing in this world is black or white, there are always shades of grey. Would you sentence a man to jail because he stole from his place of employment if you knew he only did it so that he could feed his starving children because his fat cat boss cut his hours to save the company money?" It was a rhetorical question, but mainly she was just trying to get a point across. The corner of her mouth lifted. "Luckily for me, Horror sees no good or evil. It doesn't care if you are a sinner or a saint. It sees what is there and only that. None discriminatory if you will." She ran her fingers through her hair, brushing it back over her shoulder as her eyes lidded half way with an almost satisfied look on her face. "Smaller groups make it easier for us to pick off. Divide and conquer. A simple strategy that works wonders if done properly. Of course, one would need to find that one kink in the chain and work at it for a while." She never said it would be an easy course of action, but it was always something to consider. Outright fighting the Senshi and the Knights in the street only got one so far. You needed to use whatever you could besides fighting. And talking to them was just useless flapping of one's gums. Toutatis felt strange. Being a low run Senshi yet discussing strategy with a Negaverse General.
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 3:18 pm
Watching the cat he wondered, for a moment or so, when it had last had a good meal. Having spent a short while as a cat himself he couldn't help but wonder, though he would be by no means buying himself a cat. He was quite happy with a single dog. "Of course not, and I do agree. Though try and sell that to some of the senshi and knights, I doubt they'd believe they have any taint in them." He spoke with a shake of his head. "I see your point though, and I agree." They were tainted, as everyone was, but not all evil like the other side seemed convinced of.
"I see. I can't say I don't discriminate. I know I do at times, I'm far from perfect in that sense." He knew he had a thing against senshi and knights who served on the other side, and some he would push into a fight and others he'd talk to. But for all of them he held dislike and loathing in some cases. At best, to those few who he talked to, tolerated even, he would change their side to that of chaos. He would not tolerate them on the white moon side. The only ones he wouldn't bait, or fight, and would rather see uninvolved were those chibi senshi. How the other side could use little kids he had no idea.
"Now how to get them to talk and find out this kink, what will divide their side in a more noticeable manner...that is the question. I doubt we could simply out right ask one of them." Stepping out of the alley way he turned his eyes to his companion for the evening.
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:59 pm
She stopped at the end of the alley way, crossing her arms over her chest and leaning her back up against the wall with one boot up on it as well. Looking out at the cars that passed by on the street a few feet away, her face half covered in shadow. "Everyone has Chaos in their hearts. So claiming to be entirely pure and free of it is nonsense." Honestly, there was no such thing. It all went back to this whole balance thing which really was just kind of getting on Toutatis' nerves. Whenever you thought one way there was always something there to stick a wrench in the machine. Nothing was so simple. On the Order side or the Chaos side. She turned her gaze back to Benitoite. "Everyone one does. Its part of human nature. We all have a line that we draw. Sometimes we move it forward and sometimes we move it back. Its generally done on a case by case basis." The sound of a blaring siren as a police car raced by caused her head to turn quickly. Its flashing lights lighting up her face only momentarily. "With my powers though it doesn't matter who is friend or who is foe. It effects everyone the same. Though I will tell those who I consider friends to get out of the way before I use it." As she turned her head back to look at him, a wry smile came to her lips. "Hopefully you'll never find yourself in the position of being caught up in it."Tapping her temple with a single finger she smiled. "That is the ultimate question now isn't it? I hear torture is a good way if you can find one who would be easy enough to break. I would suggest infiltration but I'm pretty sure they would be able to figure an infiltrator out just by their energy signature. Though if there were a way to mask that or even change it somehow." Letting out a small sigh, she shook her head. "Always road blocks it seems. Of course...there are always civilians to use."
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:11 pm
Standing opposite her, leaning back into the alley wall, his own eyes cast out to the street as he let the senshi's voice, and words, wash over him. He agreed, it was nonsense to claim to be all good or all bad, it was hard for senshi and knights to claim all goodness considering the war they were involved in and fought in - hurting people as they did so. If they were so good no reason would be acceptable for their actions, they were not a hundred percent good.
Watching the police car zoom by, the lights lighting him up and lighting the alleyway up brightly for a single instant. "Ah, I should hope so. Though I also hope that eventually if you use it around me I'll get some warning." Speaking of how he'd like them to be something of friends, working friends perhaps. He didn't ask what her power did, he figured he'd find out eventually, and as much as he wanted to know he wouldn't pry right now - didn't seem like the proper thing right now.
"Torture could work but would we seek to stoop to their level? And it can also yield false information, it can just give us what we want to hear rather than truth. Infiltration while a good idea...you just stated the issues there. Though civilians could, maybe, be used I don't know how we could get them in, how to get the senshi to accept them and tell them things, or how to get a civilian to work with terrorists. But more importantly I don't like the idea of risking the people we're out to save. Perhaps in conversations we can simply gather puzzle pieces and all of us put them together? It would take longer but it could perhaps be the best method." And wasn't there a saying about taking your time in order to get the best results? Wines aged a long time came out the best as well, right?
Watching the cars pass by he had to wonder if any saw them both, himself and the dark mirror senshi, and if so what did they think? Did they think the pair of them just oddly dressed teenagers or did they realize what they were, what they represented? Did they have an opinion on this war, realize there were sides and factions?Pulling his gaze away from the cars and the busy street he turned his attention on his fellow agent of chaos.
"Alright, your lead."
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:01 pm
Toutatis' pale blue eyes shimmered with a bit of mischief. While she didn't particularly want to hurt those she considered friends or those she was allied with, she really had no choice in the matter when it came to her attacks. The only one not effect by it was herself. But then Horror wasn't friendly anyway, so it was understandable . "Lets just say you might end up pissing your pants for a few seconds." It was a fair description, about the same to what she had told Aurora. It was almost a power trip really, having a non-discriminatory power. She had to keep it from going to her head. Giving a light shrug she fiddled with the skull on her choker for a few seconds. Toutatis didn't really care much about whether or not they were stooping to anyone's level. If you had a job and you had a way to utilize something to help you complete that job why not do it? "I never said it was one hundred percent fool proof. It was merely a suggestion." Her lips pulled tight and thin at his comment of not liking the risk it might prove to the civilians. "In war there are always casualties. Soldiers die. Civilians die. Its inevitable. Can you really sit there and talk about not liking risking civilian lives when everything we do risks someone's life? Some civilian's life? Who's to say a civilian won't be caught in a fight? Who is to say that when you drain someone they aren't mugged or attacked by thugs but are so weak that they cannot defend themselves and are killed?" Her brows furrowed now. "If we can get a leg up then why not? Its not fool proof like any other idea. But it'll take time to work things out so don't go punching holes into everything so quickly."Letting out a small sigh, she glanced back at the street before darting out and jumping across it in about two jumps. Reaching the adjacent alley way on the other side.
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:14 pm
It sounded like she had a lovely power, or attack rather, and not one he wished to get caught up in. It also sounded like she wouldn't be warning him, how nice. He'd just have to hope he never was in range when she used her attack in some battle they'd both be at, even if he wouldn't blame her if he was caught up in it. He might be upset if she knew he was there and didn't tell him, but he couldn't hold it against her if she were clueless. How terribly annoying and bothersome.
"I know. Perhaps I am still a bit too considerate when it comes to this war, a bit hopeful. I'd like to hope, and try, to avoid hurting as many civilians as possible. I know some will, unfortunately, be caught in the crossfire, as is common in all wars, but I wish and hope it can be minimized as much as possible as it is for them and ourselves that we fight." It was what had brought him into the war, his cause for fighting, the freedoms of everyone. "I did help...to kill a civilian. My first kill..." It hadn't been easy and he didn't like to think on it, he had no such issue with the senshi he'd killed. He would never quite forget that, even if it had been another officer to kill the person. They'd have died anyway, no one could live without a starseed, and that he'd taken, it didn't matter that their neck had been broken by someone else.
Following after her, watching her jump across the street, he landed lightly on his heels just at the mouth of the alley way. "I shall try not to, I cannot help it. I did join this war to protect the people and their freedoms, as well as my own. Perhaps it's one of those things in which time to adjust to the idea, to seeing it happen, is required." He could at least talk about the civilian casualty he'd been involved in, the nightmares were long since past. Maybe he'd just need the time to process and accept things, to get over them as he saw them. Exposure to it, and time to understand and accept it, would help him accept it?
"I apologize for punching holes into everything. I should not be so rash. We need ideas, and plans, in order to handle our enemy. I should not be so quick to tear apart ideas and toss them to the side." Stepping into the alley way as he spoke. He knew this was war and he knew what came with war, but he still hadn't reconciled certain losses as being acceptable. He had some work to do perhaps.
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:24 pm
Some days she wished that they could just walk down the street without inhibitions about anyone bothering them because they were wearing strange clothing. That would be nice. These alley ways....one could get lost so easily if you didn't know where you were going. "Everyone has hopes. No, you are not too considerate. Well, perhaps a bit more than most would be really. But its good that there are those like you, they keep others less compassionate in check. Most of the time anyway." She watched him carefully for a few moments. Her face barely illuminated by a nearby neon sign that flickered every now and again. Toutatis could tell that him killing the civilian had been a tough thing that still haunted him. The sound of his voice revealed a lot. Putting a hand up, she shook her head. Closing her eyes with a smile. "Its fine, do not worry about it. I know its probably a bit frustrating to hear a newbie talk about this junk when you've been through a lot more difficult things than I. When you have been in it longer." Really, who was she even to talk. Its not like she was some supreme knower of all things Chaos or battle. Eventually though she could probably back up all the hype.
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:34 pm
"Perhaps. I wish I could be a balancer, a compass of sorts. But I don't see myself in such a place. All I can do is help train new members, assure that they can deffend themselves and perform their tasks. Aside from that I can continue to drain energy and fight myself as well as work on helping strengthen the alliance between your faction and my own. If only the strengthening is between myself and a few others from both sides." It was the best he felt he could do. He might hold the rank of General but he didn't have the pull to do much, to really do things. There were things he wanted to do, several in fact.
"Maybe though this place is where I am meant to be, to serve in a position I can do well in." To help guide others and make sure they were prepared, unlike the senshi who the white moon brought into this war.
"It is and it's not. I have my opinions and based on experience and opinion I shoot down ideas which may be able to work. Not all senshi and knights are the same, nor are we all the same. So any plan could work, under the right circumstances. Rather than do as I have I really should be more encouraging and find the positive in your ideas, even if you are new. You are looking at things with fresher eyes than I am and you are not so involved as to let that dictate your ideas." Waving a hand about as he spoke he cast her a smile. "And I'm not that old of a member either, only a year. I've not seen as much as others." Those were the ones who had more information and had seen a lot, who knew a lot and could make better calls than he could.
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:19 am
She tilted her head slightly, giving him a curious look. "Well, I would say helping train newbies and all that jazz is part of being a compass. You point them in the direction that they should follow, but it is up to them to decide whether or not to take the path you have directed them in." It seemed to Toutatis that really, Benitoite didn't give himself much credit for what he did. Which was kind of sad. Or perhaps he was just humble. Who knew. She didn't know him well enough to really make that kind of judgement off the cuff. "We all have our purpose in war. Some are fighters, some are teachers, some are fodder." Shrugging, she turned a corner down the alley way. Bright lights off in the distance suggested a marketplace of some sort. "Its just finding what we're good at and doing your best at it I guess."Well at least he was open to suggestions. Or at least now it seemed after she pointed out a few things to him. Laughing, she waved a hand back and forth in the air. "Well you've seen more than I have. So that counts for something at least."
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:13 pm
"That would be part of the problem. I wish I were more able to direct others, rather than point them and let them decide if they stay the course. I would like some more weight and to perhaps come up with plans and ideas." Only he wasn't so good with plans. He could gather information and come up with an idea. Planning the idea out however was where he failed, perfect example in his training idea. He had a place and everything but no lightning and no safe way to light the place. He'd had the idea and been able to find a place but little problems like that he couldn't deal with and plan out. "To come up with the plans and guide others in a direction which would help to achieve our goals and minimize the suffering of the civilian populace." Two things he wished he could do, and yet they did tie into each other. Would he not, if he could and did come up with ideas and plans, be able to keep those who wouldn't care about civilian casualties in line?
But alas, he didn't know just how to do what he wanted to do. He seemed further from land than he'd felt in along time. He knew he'd never reach land, achieve everything (perfection), but he was so far from land he was sure he couldn't see it. He worked with new members, and didn't care which chaos faction they were, and yet it just didn't seem like enough. It didn't help the civilians, it didn't help bring this war to it's peak so an end could be reached. And for this all the civilians of the city suffered, and the risk of freedom being lost continued to loom over them all.
"Those who are fodder are only as such because they allow themselves to be, whether it's because they knowingly are such or they don't care about anything." But fodder was fodder because they permitted it. That was one thing he hoped none he dealt with would be - ever. He valued the lives of those he knew, again with the caring for others thing. Over time it seemed he was getting softer and yet getting harder and colder. How could a person become both at the same time when the two things were polar opposites? It was a concept beyond him at the present. "But then I could say that everything we are is because we actively or inactively allowed ourselves to become such, that we are fully accountable for everything we are whether we know it or not." Because they allowed everything which happened to them to mold hem in certain ways. So the fighter and the teacher also allowed themselves to become such, whether actively or by not caring and simply letting it happen. He had then allowed himself to fall into this position of wanting to do more, to help more, and yet being unable to do more. It was a horrible thing to realize and for a moment he wanted to hit something, just to distract himself from such thoughts, but he didn't. The only things around to hit were either living, and likely to hit him, or were quite solid and likely to break knuckles.
"I suppose it does." Shrugging. "But even a person who sees a lot does not always know a lot. Perhaps with your fresh view on things and what I do know, and perhaps what others with more experience than myself, we can work out things..." It was worth offering, whether anything could come of his words...that remained to be seen. "So please, continue with your ideas, I would like to hear them all."
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