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Hinote Tosatsu Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:38 pm
Timmy... What on earth are you on about?
Konoha has been inactive recently, yes. However a mere few weeks ago they were by far the most active in the guild. Why has this changed? I don't know. Hopefully the thing I tossed at their gates helps to solve it though, since they seem to respond well to attacks there.
Kumogakure has all those people, yes. Are they inactive? Yes. Two of them. One because she has nobody to post with, and the other on hiatus. Myself and Yelena are able to post, so long as we actually come up with something. The rest are all in Suna, participating in that battle. You yourself have chosen to be inactive in that battle. Are we to send an assault against Kumo when it is defended by two genin, one inactive genin, and the kage, while the rest of their forces are in another village?
In Kirigakure, every current member excluding Lance, who is on hiatus, has posted in the last few days. Why isn't Masaki a chuunin? Because he doesn't have the training yet, and Hikaro hasn't applied for a promotion.
In your statements on Sunagakure you speak of genin standing on the side being useless, then mention that you haven't checked the thread in forever. Please recall that YOU ARE one of the genin in that thread.
I won't disregard the point that we need more plotlines for activity, but of the few references you made to that inactivity, you are part of the cause. You create your own inactivity.
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@Natsumi: My statement that the method suggested wasn't doable was simply in that the crew cannot create new members. I don't have a magic bell I can ring and cause new members to appear. The entire point of this thread was to find out what would make current members more active, and possible, methods they felt could be used to draw in new members, not the simple statement that we need them. (In other words, the point of this thread is your closing paragraph.)
For your suggestion of a guide to the profile (At least that's what I'm reading it as.), I have done that in the past, and have intended to do so again for the new format when I have the time. Unfortunately I don't think many people actually bothered to read them, because checking back in the approval thread the same problems it was designed to solve still came up...
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I swear I had something more to say, but it is late and my brain seems to have quit for the night... It hasn't done that in awhile...
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:57 pm
TvIaMsOqTuHeYz Then Kumogakure is filled with a single jonin, a chunin, and six genin. ( Five if Lance isn't being very active, or that other guy, Kris6 I think his name is? ) Hardly enough to NOT be doing something with. That is actually 8 people, so why is it that we're not even as active as Konohagakure!?!? Sorry, that's simply my direst due to Kumogakure being one of my favorite villages currently. sweatdrop Most of Kumo's most active members (you, Kennie and Kage) are in Suna. Shikaku (hinote), Yelena and Nagisa are the only other active members. Yelena and Shikaku are in active rp. Nagisa has been pretty unused lately I admit, I've been keeping her on standby to help get all our new villagers (most quit) started. In retrospect this could be done while seeing to minor tasks, or seeking them out directly. Lance may become active again, though he may just be another of our trendy "startup quitters" who don't make it past a couple of posts. An arc right now would be ill timed since most of the village is away. With Yelena Hinote and (potentially) Zane being fresh starts I have decided giving them time for training or missions is the best plan. Things will be made more interesting when the village is together once more. TvIaMsOqTuHeYz Kirigakure is self sustaining itself, but it too is starting to bog down. Without Kane, or Yamatano, they only have Luo, LT, and Matsuya to train the genin in the village. Literally, THE GENIN, as in Masaki. Why isn't Masaki a chunin by now? He has probably the three strongest people to train him. LT with his evil training ways, Luo with his extreme intellect, and Matsuya with his... Nara-ness? I get that they now have Duo, but he is kinda not on their good side right now. self sustaining itself is redundant. Couldn't not say this. Masaki is still a pretty darn new character in rp, and has only got 2 actual missions. This however is a little misleading since they were both long high rank missions. He has been as active as I have been able to manage and could very well be the next to rank up, but i think there is some important character development and such to get through first. Honestly I still think Kiri is doing the best of the four even counting Suna's current arc development. I know it also has at least one important event coming up in the signing with Kumo (which I believe Luo has delayed because of the matter in Suna since there isn't much keeping Kiri busy). TvIaMsOqTuHeYz I'm saying that the amount of plot events needs to be much higher in this guild. I know my fellow members of the ADT are working hard, but we need a couple of mini arcs for the villages themselves. Maybe there is a fire, or a band of thugs rolls into town. Hell, pirates could attack Kirigakure or something, or Huns attack Kumo. Something fun and engaging like the zombie halloween arc Kiri had a while back. While it was fun once it got going Kiri's halloween arc was kind of a total bomb when it started. It's original premise where so many zombies had to be killed before more appeared had to be completely scrapped for a plot ending boss type fight. What saved it was when the new starts were finally able to join in a very long time after it actually started. The genin in Suna, if not participating in the battle have already been told that they can earn MP. Even kumo nin can benefit from this. I honestly don't know what's going on with Konoha. Also, not trying to totally knock you down or anything, I get where you are coming from but I am pretty sure the villages (except Konoha) are doing pretty darn well. I don't think arcs are very important right now since everyone should have something to be doing.
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:07 pm
gaia_diamond Well, as far as Suna goes, (as I have been online and checking each day) I am not sure how the activity is. I know that at least two people have been posting (outside of the fight zone). But, from what I have read, is that if you are a genin, posting in the main fight zone is pointless because you'd be worthless in the fight. gaia_diamond gaia_diamond My suggestion was to simply obtain new membership. I am not sure that anyone can just "ring a bell" but I understand now the point of this thread. I have given my suggestions (and I feel that you've listened) so I can do no more unless you enlist my assistance or ask me to do something for you. In any case, I do hope that we can get those members who are lurking around to post and hopefully have some new members join up later.
As for the profile: unfortunately, most people don't read. That may be a problem that you always have. Still, it's always a good practice to address problems that are consistant. "Do as you've always done, get as you've always got." Sometimes, it's a trial by fire for your dreams to come true... gaia_diamond
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:37 pm
I'll restate that I was partially joking about how I worded things. I know that it would be ill timed, Once we get back, and everyone gets a bit better at missions, and trained, it wouldn't hurt to have a nice little arc, like a truffle hunt, or a scavenger hunt type thing. A celebration of the village once again on it's way to glory. Maybe a fireworks festival, that we could even invite Kirigakure to after the completion of Shimogakure tower. Just something to do, rather than simply sitting there doing nothing since the Four Kings Arc. No, it isn't. By saying Self sustaining, it implies that it is sustaining itself. Self sustaining would be an adverb and a verb, and since Kirigakure is acting upon Kirigakure, itself is the pronoun to use. Grammatically it is correct, but it just doesn't seem right. I know Masaki is new, but how long has it been since you got him? About 3 months, maybe more? He could have learned a bit more than he has already. A lot of this time was taken up by the Konohagakure mission, so I'm not saying it was all that possible. Yes, i know that it was a bomb, but if we take LT's idea, then we could eventually completely destroy a village if they don't regain activity. If we're going to spend the time to make an arc for them as a reward for activity, then they should accept it, and be happy. If they don't participate, then they can all simply accept that there is ramifications. EDIT @ Hinote Yes, but even if active in bursts, it doesn't equal the same as being semi active. If you're active in bursts just long enough to keep your character, but not actually progress the story, then you're doing more damage than you're helping due to the fact you tie up someone who is potentially active. A few weeks before Konohagakure's activity, they were inactive like how they are now. They are only active when Panthers makes a move. And Panthers is only active when something is bothering his plans, so in essence, Konohagakure is only active as long as something keeps poking and prodding it. Lance is on Hiatus, I understand that. Nagisa seems to be playing with you two, so I wouldn't call her inactive, or having no one to post with. And as for you and Yelena, you two seem to be able to type something up without even bothering to acknowledge each other in a formal way, any more than looking at each other sneakily. While entertaining, it accomplishes nearly nothing beyond characterization. It isn't development, your character gains nothing from the exchange, it simply shows others how your character thinks. While nice occasionally, you've been doing it for a while now. Yes, You've been kidnapped by Nagisa, hooray, that solves both of the problems you just posed to me. I'm not saying Masaki would have the training yet, I'm simply saying that as the most active village in terms of members currently active, shouldn't they be the most productive? I get that the whole thing with Duo is taking almost everyone's attention, but when you think about it, LT and Matsuya are in the tower going over the state of Konoha. I'm not even sure if the whole Duo thing is still going on actually, I kind of stopped looking after the tenth day in a row that it was going on. I know I'M one of the genin in the thread. Please recall that YOU said it would be suicide to attempt to get into the battle, and please recall that YOU said it was a stupid idea for Laxus to begin helping out around the village as it would raise suspicion. I will admit that Laxus is an inert character right now, since I've been told any action he would do would be considered a bad choice. I've already let David know that my character can use Jiton, and that Raiden is a Raiton user, as well as Sora. So I'm not going to do anything with him that I've been instructed by a better roleplayer would be a bad move. Sorry if that came off as harsh in any way, I didn't mean it that way if it did. I'm only part of the cause in Kumogakure. In the Sunagakure fight, I haven't made a post since my first two within the fight, as I stated to remove me from the posting order, so in reality, I'm in no way hampering the activity of that battle. I do, however, take into account that Laxus could in fact be aiding somehow in the battle. Due to my inexperience in combat, I'm abstaining from it because I don't want to do something, get told it won't work, and then have to spend the next hour or two remaking the post and potentially taking up the time that someone else could have been posting, and then they lose a spark of inspiration, and can't make a post to their full abilities.
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:35 pm
TvIaMsOqTuHeYz I'll restate that I was partially joking about how I worded things. I'm not entirely sure what in your post was supposed to be "joking", but it seemed to be grounded in real concerns. I was simply adressing the concerns you spoke of. If you weren't bothered by any of this then there would be no reason to post here. Feedback is always good as long as it is expressed in a non-problematic fashion (as you just did). so you're all good on that end. I won't tell you how to handle your rpc. I am willing to make suggestions, but neither I nor Hinote can tell you what your character can, would or should do. If you want to do something you can find enough reason to do it, otherwise you can just sit and wait for the battle to end. Unfortunately you may be tied up for a while if you choose the latter option.
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