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I would be for. |
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:53 am
I know I'm just a lowly unaffliated member at the moment, but since I feel like throwing my towel in with the boys in white, I feel the need to comment.
I see two problems with this.
First, and you may note, Harribel got whipped by a group of Adjuchas. (If I am remembering correctly, and I believe I am). This greatly reduces the assumption that a Vasto Lorde is beyond a regular Arrancar. Sure, they're strong as hell. Sure, they're more powerful than an Adjuchas. But you can't just assume that they're the end-all to everything as far as Hollow powers are concerned.
Second... Two months as a hollow? You do realize that basic hollow, including Adjuchas, have no bloody abilities beyond a boring cero, right? At least the Shinigami get to party with their fancy lights and fighting techniques. Hollow are pretty limited in as far as what abilities they can learn are concerned.Make people wait too long and they will get impatient, or just not join the Arrancar at all. Add to that the tediousness that is bound to rise out of making the Vasto something that is harder to accomplish, and you've got yourself an entire subforum no one will want to visit. Just my opinion though, take it as you will.
If this is out of line at all, be sure you mates call me on it. Not quite sure how the ol' system works here, but at least I've said my bit.
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:57 am
You're correct but we can work around these.
First, Harribel, that segment is an anime only segment and didn't happen in the manga. Furthermore she actually gets beaten up by Aduchjas turned Arrancar. If you look at the wiki that's what it says on her page. So what this may suggest is that Arrancar are naturally stronger than Vasto Lorde. The old approach is that Vasto Lorde are stronger than all but Vasto Lorde Arrancar though and that's the one we're going for since the segment with Harribel is of dubious canon.
As for Aduchjas having no abilities apart from a cero that can only be wrong. Remember what a Resurrecion is? It's like releasing more of your pure hollow form and reducing your Shinigami form. Simply by that fact they could not have been completely powerless as all sorts of hollows possess all sorts of powers. For example we can probably deduce that Harribel as a pure hollow had some sort of water manipulation ability else she would not have it during Resurrecion.
As you suggest two months may be too long. That is why I agree with STOCKFISCH's idea of instead a list of criteria to review. We would put up a thread for Arrancar Transformations and if RPers fulfil the right criteria then we'll go through the mask ripping process.
You're not out of line at all though. This is what I want. Bring up your concerns. Else I would have forced it through without asking anyone.
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:29 pm
So basically this has been proposed:
-Start as Aduchjas or lower.
-Rpically build up to Aduchjas level if you started lower.
-Choice begins here to either continue hollow growth or opt for mask removal.
-Tournament is held for those who wish to try for vasto lorde ranking.
-Those who are vasto lorde then have the option of becoming arrancar.
was there a method of the mask removal process proposed yet? . u.
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:37 pm
That's pretty much it,
Mask removal is a pretty standard procedure. It involves gripping it by the edges and tearing it off.
It could almost be like a slightly nasty coming of age ceremony.
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:53 pm
hm sounds reasonable, just as long as the time frames are adjusted reasonably. . u.
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:35 pm
I've a question, how would this effect current rpcs?
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:37 pm
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:40 pm
I vote for not changing and see them as potential leaders of Hueco Mundo since they've been here for a while. stare
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:01 pm
What about a roleplay requirement. Must have a certain amount of Roleplays that are a qualifying amount of words long before you can step up, and they have to be looked over and confirmed. Something that with time and dedication you can earn; and if you aren't Rping your character up to par that will meet requirements; perhaps you need to rethink why you are here.
And I know it probably doesn't mean anything but when I had accapello here a while ago, I HAD to rp up to the stage she is in. I doubt the rp is anywhere around here but you HAD to do a certain Rp with them realizing and doing all the things they do... <-Did that sound lame? I would love to not have to do that again. emotion_zombie
I sort of agree with Torrik... I mean for goodness sakes... Torrik, Stockfisch and I and a few others have been here/participated/ come back blah blah... I mean half of our characters are on the front page. ((Fourth squad captain mine is)).
Edit: Sorry I didn't have a chance to read all the others. My mom is being a pain so I wanted to add my two cents real quick; even if they have been mentioned. ^^
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:18 pm
What split is saying that Accapello and myself would like to remain the same. I'm not worried that it'll turn into an issue.
I find it funny that they (the original captains) are still there on the front page as a memento of the days when this guild was at it's peak. However, not all of them will come back so we're just going to have to make due until it balances out again. I have faith that it'll happen soon.
Point being, some of the guild veterans have endured a lot of hard work to get to where they are now (those who are still here or those who have just come back) but I did it to make it easier for the members of the future. I have no qualms with things changing from the way they used to be as long as they are maintained. The current planned system sounds fair to me. Battle royal, RP test, whatever... but who want to evolve and become stronger better earn it in some way and I feel that we're all in agreement with that.
RP requirements should be the same as a shinigami character's. If they obey the rules, get good with their writing and whatnot then good for them. If they don't cut the cheese, it's deuces.
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:23 pm
Wham bam thank you... sir.
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:50 pm
Yaroki I've a question, how would this effect current rpcs? We'd actually put it into motion but define a cut off date when it has to go into full effect. It wouldn't affect characters before that date only ones after.
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:55 am
Pad Chief Yaroki I've a question, how would this effect current rpcs? We'd actually put it into motion but define a cut off date when it has to go into full effect. It wouldn't affect characters before that date only ones after. okay lol
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:28 pm
Since I can see you're online right now. I'm aware you voted against it earlier. You didn't respond to my response to you so I'd like to know what you think now. Are you still remaining against it? If you are what could we do to make you more for it? Also if you're about who is the second person who voted against it? You can't just vote against it and then say nothing.
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:34 pm
Sorry about that... sweatdrop I've been working on a profile... eek
Umm... the biggest thing for me was the time limits... it just seems so tedious... I think that things should be determined by writing skill and activity, rather than just how long a person has been here.
The rest of it... as long as Shinigami realize that the average Arrancar is beyond a vice captain (at least that's my understanding, correct me if I'm wrong. crying ), there shouldn't be a problem.
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