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 Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:16 am
rmcdra Socika So because they all did it, it was right? Never said it was right, all I'm saying is that it was common and I don't know of a culture back then that didn't. From my cultural and temporal vantage point, I'd say they were all wrong but given my ignorance of specifics of that time period and that I know very little of what life was like back then for those cultures, who am I to judge one ancient culture over another ancient culture? Quote: I wouldn't exactly put not having compassion in the self destructive section, quite reverse actually, not having it may help you up if you don't mind walikng over people so to speak. And arrogance can properly placed wont hurt you eighter. You have cities being compared to ones that raped strangers and took advantage of those in need? So how is what you are saying relevant? Since you brought it up though, Why is it right to walk over people? Next self-respect is not arrogance. 1. So you agree it was wrong 2. I'm not saying it's right i'm saying it's not self destructive, nor is arrogance in every case (and i can tell the difference between self respect and arrogance)
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:07 am
Socika So you agree it was wrong Didn't I just say that? Quote: I'm not saying it's right i'm saying it's not self destructive, nor is arrogance in every case (and i can tell the difference between self respect and arrogance) You must have a different idea of what arrogance is than me then. Arrogance - an attitude of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner or in presumptuous claims or assumptions. In terms of having connections with others and trying to not be a d**k, they are self-destructive to this end.
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:11 am
rmcdra Arrogance - an attitude of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner or in presumptuous claims or assumptions. In terms of having connections with others and trying to not be a d**k, they are self-destructive to this end. I don't see how, if you're arrogant towards people you don't need, or people that need you for example. Btw which sopa answer is the right 1.
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:32 am
Socika I don't see how, if you're arrogant towards people you don't need, or people that need you for example. So back to the eye for an eye mentality now. Let's burn the hospitals since we don't need sick people, and sick people aren't helping us. We don't need them. Seriously are you saying that you have a right to be arrogant to people that need you? That's really sick. Quote: Btw which sopa answer is the right 1. I'm not sure what you are talking about here XD. Edit: For getting an item? I don't know but don't click I don't care, your avi will be censored.
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:06 pm
rmcdra Socika I don't see how, if you're arrogant towards people you don't need, or people that need you for example. So back to the eye for an eye mentality now. Let's burn the hospitals since we don't need sick people, and sick people aren't helping us. We don't need them. Seriously are you saying that you have a right to be arrogant to people that need you? That's really sick. Quote: Btw which sopa answer is the right 1. I'm not sure what you are talking about here XD. Edit: For getting an item? I don't know but don't click I don't care, your avi will be censored. I'm saying it's not self distructive if you are, and I have no idea wher you got eye for an eye mentality from what i said. I clicked exactly that but I guess my avi is to cute to get censored xD
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:19 pm
Socika I'm saying it's not self distructive if you are, and I have no idea wher you got eye for an eye mentality from what i said. Quote: I don't see how, if you're arrogant towards people you don't need, or people that need you for example. That is "eye for an eye" mentality. If you don't need them then be arrogant, is an "eye for an eye" argument. Might as well go live back in ancient times with that sort of attitude. Next you avoided my question/reaction to you: Seriously are you saying that you have a right to be arrogant to people that need you? That's really sick.
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:23 pm
rmcdra Socika I'm saying it's not self distructive if you are, and I have no idea wher you got eye for an eye mentality from what i said. Quote: I don't see how, if you're arrogant towards people you don't need, or people that need you for example. That is "eye for an eye" mentality. If you don't need them then be arrogant, is an "eye for an eye" argument. Might as well go live back in ancient times with that sort of attitude. Next you avoided my question/reaction to you: Seriously are you saying that you have a right to be arrogant to people that need you? That's really sick. Nope eye for an eye is that everything you do returns exactly back to you so you hit someone you get hit you shoot someone you get shot. I don't see what does that have to do with arrogance. The right to be arrogant to people who need you, I'm not saying that it's right but I don't see it as a big deal.
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:33 pm
Socika Nope eye for an eye is that everything you do returns exactly back to you so you hit someone you get hit you shoot someone you get shot. I don't see what does that have to do with arrogance. If someone doesn't need you then they have a right to be arrogant to you then? I'm glad I don't live in your world view lol. Quote: The right to be arrogant to people who need you, I'm not saying that it's right but I don't see it as a big deal. Why?
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:30 pm
rmcdra Socika Nope eye for an eye is that everything you do returns exactly back to you so you hit someone you get hit you shoot someone you get shot. I don't see what does that have to do with arrogance. If someone doesn't need you then they have a right to be arrogant to you then? I'm glad I don't live in your world view lol. Quote: The right to be arrogant to people who need you, I'm not saying that it's right but I don't see it as a big deal. Why? Of course they do it's a free country. It's because I don't have a soul, I sold it for a pack of ciggaretts. xD My world view maybe be a bit on the dark side but at least I'm honest.
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:46 pm
Socika rmcdra Socika Nope eye for an eye is that everything you do returns exactly back to you so you hit someone you get hit you shoot someone you get shot. I don't see what does that have to do with arrogance. If someone doesn't need you then they have a right to be arrogant to you then? I'm glad I don't live in your world view lol. Quote: The right to be arrogant to people who need you, I'm not saying that it's right but I don't see it as a big deal. Why? Of course they do it's a free country. It's because I don't have a soul, I sold it for a pack of ciggaretts. xD My world view maybe be a bit on the dark side but at least I'm honest. . Okay I'll bite. Please explain why having freedom means one should have an attitude of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner or in presumptuous claims or assumptions? That sounds more like abuse of freedom personally but to each their own I guess. Honesty is good. It's key to learning and building good relationships with others. Edit: How can one be honest if one has an attitude of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner or in presumptuous claims or assumptions? Maybe if the one such a person actually believed they were superior but since its based on presumptuous claims and assumptions then I don't see how one could remain honest for long.
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:28 pm
It doesn't mean 1 should have an attitude, it means that 1 could have an attitude and it wouldn't matter 1 way or the other. I don't see why arrogance would nesserally lead to lies as you seem to imply.
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:42 pm
Socika It doesn't mean 1 should have an attitude, it means that 1 could have an attitude and it wouldn't matter 1 way or the other. Why would it not matter? Do we not live with others? Quote: I don't see why arrogance would nesserally lead to lies as you seem to imply. How does one maintain an an attitude of superiority that's based on assumptions, especially when these assumptions are baseless?
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:02 am
rmcdra Socika It doesn't mean 1 should have an attitude, it means that 1 could have an attitude and it wouldn't matter 1 way or the other. Why would it not matter? Do we not live with others? Quote: I don't see why arrogance would nesserally lead to lies as you seem to imply. How does one maintain an an attitude of superiority that's based on assumptions, especially when these assumptions are baseless? 1.. We do but our attitudes don't matter most of the time.world will continue spinning no matter how you behave, and honestly I find people that are too nice far more annoying than those who are a little arrogant. 2. not all asumptions are baseless, some are correct (depends on the intelligence of the person making them). Baseless assumptions, when you say that fundementalists pop into my head.
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:11 am
Socika 1.. We do but our attitudes don't matter most of the time.world will continue spinning no matter how you behave, and honestly I find people that are too nice far more annoying than those who are a little arrogant. You're avoiding the question. Yes nature will continue to function the same as it does regardless of one's attitude but relationships with others are affected by attitude. I made it clear earlier that I was talking about relationships with others. "Niceness" has little to do with being or not being arrogant. Arrogant people still do "nice" things. Quote: 2. not all asumptions are baseless, some are correct (depends on the intelligence of the person making them). Never said all assumptions are baseless. I said especially in regards to baseless assumptions. You are avoiding the question again.
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:05 am
1. Well perhaps you should make questions more clear than. Yes relationships are effected, but in my oppinion it doesn't matter. I honestly have no idea what the point you're trying to make is. I'm not saying arrogant people can't do nice things eighter. I'm simply saying that people who have to behave too ''opposite of arrogant'' can be even more annoying. 2. Simple, believing that they're not baseless. for some it isn't even a matter of choice it's a belief that's considerd a fact. Heavy indoctrination comes to mind or simple disregard for the reality.
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