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 Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:46 am
“Is it?” He said lifting his chin in a small challenge. “The fight continues, the senshi still wait for their queen to return, they know nothing of Us or what drives us beyond what they choose to believe. They imagine we create youma for no other reason but to torture the civilians. How wise is that? How just to seek to escape any responsibility in a war that they willingly engage in? How will there be a change when we’re the only ones willing to try and ‘redeem’? Go ask when there will be peace, the answer from order is when ‘Chaos’ has died.”
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:47 am
"There are a lot of senshi who don't believe in, or just don't want a Queen to return to rule them. It's difficult enough with Princes and Princesses who think they should be shown respect when they don't do anything," he said, leaving the comment generalized so as not to make it seem as if he was accusing anyone of anything. He didn't know how many Princes and Princesses there were, but from his experience at the Surrounding, it didn't seem as if Castor did much to help the rest of them... and Chronos was busy being protected while the rest of them fought. Again, he didn't know them very well so he was trying to save his opinions from forming until after he'd spoken to them a bit more, but as of that moment, he couldn't say he was all that impressed. There were normal and super senshi who did so much more, from what he saw.
Valhalla raised his head as Zinkenite did, unable to back down from a challenge, despite how much he knew he probably should. "I don't believe in such a black and white concept as 'Order' and 'Chaos'," he told the other young man, knowing that he'd said the same thing to General Wolframite before. It was true though. While the Negaverse followed a set standard, senshi and knights really had no 'order' to begin with. It was almost comical, how 'Chaos' lived by order and militaristic ranks, while 'Order' was in complete chaos. But for Valhalla, that observation, which he knew was shared by others, only made him less inclined to believe there was only 'right' and 'wrong'.
"Peace would be more willingly given than you think, Zinkenite," he said, although the young man seemed pretty set in his beliefs of what is and isn't going to happen. And that was where there were speed bumps... when people were so set in their ways that they can't be offered another opinion. Valhalla thought he was lucky in that he didn't come into this war on either side and had the opportunity to decide for himself what he believed and didn't believe. "I wouldn't say no to a treaty of coexistence."
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:44 pm
“If you can sway the senshi, then we’ll be willing to hear it I think.” Zink said watching your face with a strange sort of studious interest. “There would be terms I’m sure from both sides. I think we might even be willing to help the senshi restructure their worlds, imagine that, undoing the destruction of the past, giving them the sanctuary that once was theirs and the peace to the earth that it hungers for.”
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:21 pm
"It might not be so much 'swaying' their decision for peace is it will be to convince them that their safety is ensured for whatever meeting came about," he said, wanting more than anything to try and convince the others that the possibility for peace wasn't as far-fetched as many thought. If they could figure out a way to just... just talk to the Negaverse, then maybe they could find a way for peaceful resolutions to a bloody and unnecessary war.
Valhalla offered a weak smile at the suggestion of restructuring senshi's worlds, but not sure if that was something that could be achieved in their life times. "I think the senshi aren't so concerned with their old worlds as they are with protecting this one, but thank you. I'm sure it'll be a good start for the future." That, and he'd seen the devastation of senshi worlds... There would be little means to survive, especially since they could only bring along a single companion, from what it seemed like. Much too lonely and too much work to result in anything worthwhile in a short amount of time.
And so help him... if some estranged Moon Princess came to screw everything up, he was going to totally flip out.
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:23 am
“Protecting this world, all that means is eliminating us, they see us as the greatest threat to this world and disregard all evidence of their home worlds, even with our inability to go to space on our own people like Castor blame us for the destruction of their planets rather than accepting that they likely had a hand in the fall.”
“I do have faith in what I’m doing, and I’m sure you do as well, consider those of us whom are willing to have a repertoire to be closer to that fine line that divides us, there is no true ‘grey’ here, but we can at least see across that border. The question is can we change it? And what would the consequences of that be? What would come after? True peace or just the path to the so-called Utopian society that the senshi want their Moon Queen back for, ‘freedom’ at the cost of agreeing with her ideals and no other.”
“Grey might exist in morality but I wonder if it can truly exist for us. Even being able to speak like this, to find a common ground is a rare thing Page Valhalla”
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 9:48 pm
"That's all in the past, though!" he said, sounding more exasperated than he'd intended, his expression concerned and almost desperate, but not quite there yet. "We- I don't want the Negaverse to be eliminated! I don't want anyone to have to suffer any more than they already have. Maybe you're right and there is no possible way for true peace, but things are infinitely more complex than just black and white, even if there is no 'true grey' as you say."
The two of them being able to talk and not try to kill each other on sight should be evidence of that. And Valhalla certainly didn't believe in just right and wrong, good and evil. The senshi and the Negaverse couldn't possibly be that much of an exception.
"A Utopian society is too idealistic and unobtainable. Even More realized that when he wrote the book." Which would explain why he didn't practice the same ideals in his personal life. But Valhalla moved on since he knew the likelihood of Zinkenite wanting a literature lesson was probably extremely low. "We don't want a Moon Queen, and we sure as hell won't fight on her side if that means sacrificing this planet and those who live on it."
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:07 pm
“Is it that different? The past we don’t seem to learn from, the fact they deny most of it and are therefor unable to learn, the probability that we lack pieces of said same puzzle too is high. I’ve seen senshi torture us in the name of justice and who now bend knee to our same ‘Queen’ and plan only to return to their worlds leaving earth to its own accord, more peaceful now in the name of Chaos than they were in the hands of Order in a strange way but still cursed as villains and the damned. I agree that Utopian society in itself is self defeating, there are a number of books that explore the idea that a society without ‘evil’ is in just as poor a state as one that utterly lacks good.”
But what if the worlds were all shades of grey? He remembered some old book, the title elusive that compared that kind of balance to a spinning bowl. Too much of any one thing and the bowl would be mashed down and held fast on one side, off balance and unable to spin. But…
The thought trailed off as inappropriate for this time and place. It was too deep and too speculative without enough answers, at least none he could provide of his own accord. “Few people follow the ideas they celebrate I find.” He said quietly, something distracted about the tone that said it went deeper than conversations about Utopian society, but lacked any firm ground to peruse it.
“It’s already cost the lives of many who live here, the last time she was on this earth…I would show you, but you I fear might not survive the angry…survivors such as they are. But perhaps that will be a conversation for another meeting, I’d hate to have people questioning your lingering here with me too much, though I don’t mind if you don’t.” He sounded just a little amused at the thought but if it was about the conversation or what others might say of it was up to the Knight to determine.
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:17 pm
He kept his silence once more, not really sure what to say to convince the other that it wasn't as hopeless as it seemed. At least he didn't think it was that hopeless. There were obviously those willing to risk their lives in the name of peace. Even if Zinkenite was right about what he was saying... that didn't mean they had to sit back and just take whatever was thrown at them. They were obviously resilient — both 'sides', for they continued to survive through everything. Maybe one day there wouldn't be 'sides' and they would just fight together to protect what was important to all of them.
Idealistic and foolhardy maybe, but they were capable of change and growth. It was what made them human.
Valhalla glanced up to stare at Zinkenite for his comment, eyes widening slightly. Did that mean he should clear out now? The cup of tea he'd been given was now empty, and he reached out to hand it back as he shook his head. "I don't mind. I'd like to talk again sometime, actually..." Zinkenite, as with Wolframite, had been entirely different than what he'd expected from what others said about them. He definitely wouldn't mind another peaceful conversation with him in the future.
But for now, he was suddenly aware of the amount of time they'd both been chatting. Two powered signatures that opposed one another (although his was significantly less than that of Zinkenite's) would be sure to attract the attention of others.
Slowly the page rose to his feet, offering a hand to the young man still sitting — whether to take it to shake, be helped up, or to ignore it was entirely up to Zinkenite, of course. Although Valhalla did hope he wouldn't look like the idiot offering peace and nothing come of it.
"It was nice to meet you... I hope one day we'll find a reason to work together, instead of against each other." He'd do anything to protect the Earth, after all... but he would never give in to chaos and all it entailed.
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:27 pm
Zinkenite stood and glanced down at the hand offered to him for a moment and then back to the knight who offered it. He nodded after a moment and took the hand with a casual but firm shake.
“Another time, one day perhaps, it would be interesting to work with you, that is for certain.” He said with a small smile that said there might be some double meaning for the General King. “Till we meet again.” He said with a small bow and, taking his things he vanished, ghostlike into parts unknown.
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