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 Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:13 am
Deaths Asylum I believe in obortions myself. I think if it is serious they should be able to have an abortion. Just think for a second how about if you got raped and you got pregnant would you want to keep that baby cause i know i wouldn't. I'm against obortions if some lass has had a one night fumble and got pregant then yeah they should say tough look but if its a serious matter then yes i think they should be able to have an obortion. I've never understood separating the issue like that. Making "exceptions". The issue of circumstances is fairly irrelevant, in the face of one basic question. Do you believe that a fetus is a person or a clump of cells with the potential to turn into a person?
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:18 am
Amras Tasatir Deaths Asylum YahuShalom Deaths Asylum Amras Tasatir Deaths Asylum I believe in obortions myself. I think if it is serious they should be able to have an abortion. Just think for a second how about if you got raped and you got pregnant would you want to keep that baby cause i know i wouldn't. I'm against obortions if some lass has had a one night fumble and got pregant then yeah they should say tough look but if its a serious matter then yes i think they should be able to have an obortion. No matter how life started, it started. It can ruin someone's life, but abortion is selfishness. A woman raped feels more pain from the rape than the child. So why should the child be punished? The woman should think of the child above herself. If it ruins her life, she could even use it as an example to the world about why people should be careful! She may change the world! But if you get an abortion, you're only adding harm to the harm already done. You may judge me because I'm a guy and I may not understand the way you think, but at LEAST consider my reasons. Only reply if you're willing to think about it--then you can argue all you want. And yeah i get you. But it wouldn't want to have a child which was from some random man who raped me i'd be scared to even look at the child. And i know its still life but if your not in that womens foot steps you'd never know what she would feel really all i know is if i got raped i'd have an obortion i wouldn't be able to stand giving birth to a mans child who raped me. And why should the women have to be punished just thinking everyday whilst she was pregnant you only happened cause i got raped,It'd tear her apart and maybe that women would be against obortions but just put your self in that females posistion would you want to give birth to some sick minded man. That child would be a part of you. Half of you to be exact. Just think of the rapists as an a*****e sperm donor. Sure rape is horrible but seriously the child would be the good that comes from it. And if it hurts too much just put the child up for adoption. But seriously when you feel that life kick inside of you and you realize that child had nothing to do with the evil you can actually look at the child as a blessing. Anyways abortion is just population control through eugenics. Most abortions are because of financial situations as well as social situations. This being said it is extremely selfish and out of ignorance to get an abortion. You think being raped was bad think about how you're going to feel later when you think about that child you could of had that you killed. This is what I find most girls that had abortions feel. They end up being worse off. Yeah i get you but some girls it'll tear them apart and adoption is a good idea if the girl wants to go through the pain of giving birth. And i know what people fell like after and obortion. I've seen friends have them and regret it but people make stupid mistakes. Let me ask you this is you knew your child was born blind, deaf, no taste, disabled would you turn of the life suport machiene. Yeah this came up randomly i was reading a magizine and this women was saying 'that women shouldn't of turned it life support machiene off. Do you think thats selfish to, or do you think that women was doing it for her childs own sake'. A bit of topic but ya know. I think that was the point he was making: they regret it later. That's another reason it shouldn't be done--you can't take it back. And if there was no abortion, pregnancy couldn't be taken back either. Should we just stop having sex?
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:24 am
Deaths Asylum I believe in obortions myself. I think if it is serious they should be able to have an abortion. Just think for a second how about if you got raped and you got pregnant would you want to keep that baby cause i know i wouldn't. I'm against obortions if some lass has had a one night fumble and got pregant then yeah they should say tough look but if its a serious matter then yes i think they should be able to have an obortion. Pregnancy due to rape is extremely rare, and with proper treatment can be prevented. Pregnany is never the fault of the guilty nor innocent party, and should never be cast out onto the child. The violence of abortion is the same as the violence of rape. Abortion is not the answer to rape. Perhaps the pregnancy of rape is in fact emotional and horrible, but the woman does NOT feel comfort by killing her baby. It does NOT bring "healing" or make the rape victim feel better. A child is a child regardless the conception circumstances. And what of all the children already born as a result of rape? They are loved just the same by their raped mothers as normal mothers. They recieve the same care, and if not more. Mother's of children conceived by rape are happy that they had their child, and never regret the choice of having them.
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:38 am
Deaths Asylum YahuShalom Deaths Asylum Amras Tasatir Deaths Asylum I believe in obortions myself. I think if it is serious they should be able to have an abortion. Just think for a second how about if you got raped and you got pregnant would you want to keep that baby cause i know i wouldn't. I'm against obortions if some lass has had a one night fumble and got pregant then yeah they should say tough look but if its a serious matter then yes i think they should be able to have an obortion. No matter how life started, it started. It can ruin someone's life, but abortion is selfishness. A woman raped feels more pain from the rape than the child. So why should the child be punished? The woman should think of the child above herself. If it ruins her life, she could even use it as an example to the world about why people should be careful! She may change the world! But if you get an abortion, you're only adding harm to the harm already done. You may judge me because I'm a guy and I may not understand the way you think, but at LEAST consider my reasons. Only reply if you're willing to think about it--then you can argue all you want. And yeah i get you. But it wouldn't want to have a child which was from some random man who raped me i'd be scared to even look at the child. And i know its still life but if your not in that womens foot steps you'd never know what she would feel really all i know is if i got raped i'd have an obortion i wouldn't be able to stand giving birth to a mans child who raped me. And why should the women have to be punished just thinking everyday whilst she was pregnant you only happened cause i got raped,It'd tear her apart and maybe that women would be against obortions but just put your self in that females posistion would you want to give birth to some sick minded man. That child would be a part of you. Half of you to be exact. Just think of the rapists as an a*****e sperm donor. Sure rape is horrible but seriously the child would be the good that comes from it. And if it hurts too much just put the child up for adoption. But seriously when you feel that life kick inside of you and you realize that child had nothing to do with the evil you can actually look at the child as a blessing. Anyways abortion is just population control through eugenics. Most abortions are because of financial situations as well as social situations. This being said it is extremely selfish and out of ignorance to get an abortion. You think being raped was bad think about how you're going to feel later when you think about that child you could of had that you killed. This is what I find most girls that had abortions feel. They end up being worse off. Yeah i get you but some girls it'll tear them apart and adoption is a good idea if the girl wants to go through the pain of giving birth. And i know what people fell like after and obortion. I've seen friends have them and regret it but people make stupid mistakes. Let me ask you this is you knew your child was born blind, deaf, no taste, disabled would you turn of the life suport machiene. Yeah this came up randomly i was reading a magizine and this women was saying 'that women shouldn't of turned it life support machiene off. Do you think thats selfish to, or do you think that women was doing it for her childs own sake'. A bit of topic but ya know. The doctor's diagnosis is sometimes wrong. The deformity (usually, only a deformity is detected. They usually can not pin-point the exact deformity) is usually minor. Medical tests for deformity often cause as many problems as they detect. Handicapped children are often happy, always precious, and usually delighted to be alive. Handicapped children are not social liabilities, and bright and "normal" people are not always social assets. Our society is hypocritical in its attitude toward handicapped children. The adverse psychological effects of abortion are significantly more traumatic for those who abort because of deformity. The arguments for killing a handicapped unborn child are valid only if they also apply to killing born people who are handicapped. Abortions due to probable handicaps rob the world of unique human beings who would significantly contribute to society. Abortions due to imperfections have no logical stopping place; they will lead to designer babies, commercial products to be bred and marketed, leaving other people to be regarded as inferior and disposable. No adverse circumstance for one human being changes the nature and worth of another human being.
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:27 pm
DysFUNKtional Duck Amras Tasatir Deaths Asylum YahuShalom Deaths Asylum And yeah i get you. But it wouldn't want to have a child which was from some random man who raped me i'd be scared to even look at the child. And i know its still life but if your not in that womens foot steps you'd never know what she would feel really all i know is if i got raped i'd have an obortion i wouldn't be able to stand giving birth to a mans child who raped me. And why should the women have to be punished just thinking everyday whilst she was pregnant you only happened cause i got raped,It'd tear her apart and maybe that women would be against obortions but just put your self in that females posistion would you want to give birth to some sick minded man. That child would be a part of you. Half of you to be exact. Just think of the rapists as an a*****e sperm donor. Sure rape is horrible but seriously the child would be the good that comes from it. And if it hurts too much just put the child up for adoption. But seriously when you feel that life kick inside of you and you realize that child had nothing to do with the evil you can actually look at the child as a blessing. Anyways abortion is just population control through eugenics. Most abortions are because of financial situations as well as social situations. This being said it is extremely selfish and out of ignorance to get an abortion. You think being raped was bad think about how you're going to feel later when you think about that child you could of had that you killed. This is what I find most girls that had abortions feel. They end up being worse off. Yeah i get you but some girls it'll tear them apart and adoption is a good idea if the girl wants to go through the pain of giving birth. And i know what people fell like after and obortion. I've seen friends have them and regret it but people make stupid mistakes. Let me ask you this is you knew your child was born blind, deaf, no taste, disabled would you turn of the life suport machiene. Yeah this came up randomly i was reading a magizine and this women was saying 'that women shouldn't of turned it life support machiene off. Do you think thats selfish to, or do you think that women was doing it for her childs own sake'. A bit of topic but ya know. I think that was the point he was making: they regret it later. That's another reason it shouldn't be done--you can't take it back. And if there was no abortion, pregnancy couldn't be taken back either. Should we just stop having sex? I don't agree with your point, but I understand it. The difference is that sex and murder are two different things completely, and I believe that abortion is murder. Once a life has been created, it cannot be uncreated, only killed.
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:12 pm
Amras Tasatir DysFUNKtional Duck Amras Tasatir Deaths Asylum YahuShalom Deaths Asylum And yeah i get you. But it wouldn't want to have a child which was from some random man who raped me i'd be scared to even look at the child. And i know its still life but if your not in that womens foot steps you'd never know what she would feel really all i know is if i got raped i'd have an obortion i wouldn't be able to stand giving birth to a mans child who raped me. And why should the women have to be punished just thinking everyday whilst she was pregnant you only happened cause i got raped,It'd tear her apart and maybe that women would be against obortions but just put your self in that females posistion would you want to give birth to some sick minded man. That child would be a part of you. Half of you to be exact. Just think of the rapists as an a*****e sperm donor. Sure rape is horrible but seriously the child would be the good that comes from it. And if it hurts too much just put the child up for adoption. But seriously when you feel that life kick inside of you and you realize that child had nothing to do with the evil you can actually look at the child as a blessing. Anyways abortion is just population control through eugenics. Most abortions are because of financial situations as well as social situations. This being said it is extremely selfish and out of ignorance to get an abortion. You think being raped was bad think about how you're going to feel later when you think about that child you could of had that you killed. This is what I find most girls that had abortions feel. They end up being worse off. Yeah i get you but some girls it'll tear them apart and adoption is a good idea if the girl wants to go through the pain of giving birth. And i know what people fell like after and obortion. I've seen friends have them and regret it but people make stupid mistakes. Let me ask you this is you knew your child was born blind, deaf, no taste, disabled would you turn of the life suport machiene. Yeah this came up randomly i was reading a magizine and this women was saying 'that women shouldn't of turned it life support machiene off. Do you think thats selfish to, or do you think that women was doing it for her childs own sake'. A bit of topic but ya know. I think that was the point he was making: they regret it later. That's another reason it shouldn't be done--you can't take it back. And if there was no abortion, pregnancy couldn't be taken back either. Should we just stop having sex? I don't agree with your point, but I understand it. The difference is that sex and murder are two different things completely, and I believe that abortion is murder. Once a life has been created, it cannot be uncreated, only killed. But we've accepted as a society, that not all killing is bad. Usually just the killing of people and sometimes animals (depending on who you ask). Which means that it all comes down to one question. At what point does one become a "person"? Given that "personhood" is an abstract state of being, there is no absolute truth. At least none that can be discovered by humanity. And so the debate will rage on, and so the laws will sway back and forth, and so, and so, and so........
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 6:11 pm
DysFUNKtional Duck Amras Tasatir DysFUNKtional Duck Amras Tasatir Deaths Asylum Yeah i get you but some girls it'll tear them apart and adoption is a good idea if the girl wants to go through the pain of giving birth. And i know what people fell like after and obortion. I've seen friends have them and regret it but people make stupid mistakes. Let me ask you this is you knew your child was born blind, deaf, no taste, disabled would you turn of the life suport machiene. Yeah this came up randomly i was reading a magizine and this women was saying 'that women shouldn't of turned it life support machiene off. Do you think thats selfish to, or do you think that women was doing it for her childs own sake'. A bit of topic but ya know. I think that was the point he was making: they regret it later. That's another reason it shouldn't be done--you can't take it back. And if there was no abortion, pregnancy couldn't be taken back either. Should we just stop having sex? I don't agree with your point, but I understand it. The difference is that sex and murder are two different things completely, and I believe that abortion is murder. Once a life has been created, it cannot be uncreated, only killed. But we've accepted as a society, that not all killing is bad. Usually just the killing of people and sometimes animals (depending on who you ask). Which means that it all comes down to one question. At what point does one become a "person"? Given that "personhood" is an abstract state of being, there is no absolute truth. At least none that can be discovered by humanity. And so the debate will rage on, and so the laws will sway back and forth, and so, and so, and so........ Please, explain your point. I'm not sure I understand where you're going with this.
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:29 pm
Amras Tasatir DysFUNKtional Duck Amras Tasatir DysFUNKtional Duck Amras Tasatir Deaths Asylum Yeah i get you but some girls it'll tear them apart and adoption is a good idea if the girl wants to go through the pain of giving birth. And i know what people fell like after and obortion. I've seen friends have them and regret it but people make stupid mistakes. Let me ask you this is you knew your child was born blind, deaf, no taste, disabled would you turn of the life suport machiene. Yeah this came up randomly i was reading a magizine and this women was saying 'that women shouldn't of turned it life support machiene off. Do you think thats selfish to, or do you think that women was doing it for her childs own sake'. A bit of topic but ya know. I think that was the point he was making: they regret it later. That's another reason it shouldn't be done--you can't take it back. And if there was no abortion, pregnancy couldn't be taken back either. Should we just stop having sex? I don't agree with your point, but I understand it. The difference is that sex and murder are two different things completely, and I believe that abortion is murder. Once a life has been created, it cannot be uncreated, only killed. But we've accepted as a society, that not all killing is bad. Usually just the killing of people and sometimes animals (depending on who you ask). Which means that it all comes down to one question. At what point does one become a "person"? Given that "personhood" is an abstract state of being, there is no absolute truth. At least none that can be discovered by humanity. And so the debate will rage on, and so the laws will sway back and forth, and so, and so, and so........ Please, explain your point. I'm not sure I understand where you're going with this. My point is that this argument has no point. ^_^
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:38 pm
DysFUNKtional Duck Amras Tasatir DysFUNKtional Duck Amras Tasatir DysFUNKtional Duck And if there was no abortion, pregnancy couldn't be taken back either. Should we just stop having sex? I don't agree with your point, but I understand it. The difference is that sex and murder are two different things completely, and I believe that abortion is murder. Once a life has been created, it cannot be uncreated, only killed. But we've accepted as a society, that not all killing is bad. Usually just the killing of people and sometimes animals (depending on who you ask). Which means that it all comes down to one question. At what point does one become a "person"? Given that "personhood" is an abstract state of being, there is no absolute truth. At least none that can be discovered by humanity. And so the debate will rage on, and so the laws will sway back and forth, and so, and so, and so........ Please, explain your point. I'm not sure I understand where you're going with this. My point is that this argument has no point. ^_^ ... Then why did you ever respond to what I said?
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:35 am
Because this is a very controversial idea, that abortion is necessary or unnecessary, and because anyone can respond to what they want, and ALSO because the more you argue about something and get absolutely nowhere, it becomes extremely annoying and people try to find ways to end it so they can get on with their lives. xd
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:56 pm
Kizuki_Utaku Because this is a very controversial idea, that abortion is necessary or unnecessary, and because anyone can respond to what they want, and ALSO because the more you argue about something and get absolutely nowhere, it becomes extremely annoying and people try to find ways to end it so they can get on with their lives. xd Mucho appreciato, sister. ^_^
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:58 pm
DysFUNKtional Duck Kizuki_Utaku Because this is a very controversial idea, that abortion is necessary or unnecessary, and because anyone can respond to what they want, and ALSO because the more you argue about something and get absolutely nowhere, it becomes extremely annoying and people try to find ways to end it so they can get on with their lives. xd Mucho appreciato, sister. ^_^ Very welcome XD
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 4:30 pm
eramthgin a ni remaerd Abotion is the illuminati's way of getting rid of us. It has nothing to do with whether the fetus is alive or not, and they certainly do NOT care about women's "choice". That's silly. =w= I'm only going to go off topic because you believing that abortions could wipe the entire human race is silly. Don't get me wrong, death sucks and I frown upon the thought of killing a fetus even though I'm pro-choice. However, our world-wide population is increasing constantly. The earth is getting a LITTLE too packed. After all, we don't have an infinite population limit. There will come a time when there will be too many humans on earth and because of that, we will have absorbed all our resources and will eventual die because we have nothing to take care of ourselves. Remember, just because something is bad or looks bad, doesn't mean it can't be beneficial or that "The illuminati is behind it." After all, if the Illuminati made abortions, they couldn't be looked on as evil villains. They made a way to SLIGHTLY decrease the growth of human population. I mean, it's still bad, but it still does good, too, for the majority. Unless you have the INSANE belief that suddenly everyone will start having abortions. Although, I doubt abortions will be a trend or something.
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 4:32 pm
AS for the main topic, I expect nothing more from the medical field of science than the abuse of it's discoveries. =w=; Trust nobody.
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:31 pm
Interesting how a group of people who believe that the government is out to take our rights away is for the most part so vehemently against abortion. The pot calling the kettle black?
As for the actual topic: Pregnant women these days are very much more enlightened about what goes into their bodies, and more open to natural diets/child rearing. There will always be the ignorant few who go for things like this, but the best thing you can do is your research and let your doctor or midwife know that you will not be bullied into anything that you don't feel is beneficial, or that may be detrimental to your baby.
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