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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:55 am


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I know that some people use temporary collars until a certain point, like you had said, when your wife earns your permanent one, I didn't know there were specifically 3 though.
There aren't always. wink
Some people have more, some people have less. To some people a collar is like a wedding ring, to others it's like a fashion accessory- to still others, it's just a tie point.


Ohhh, ok, I see. So there are other people where it's like me and my boy, he really enjoys seeing the collar on me, and it's a tie point, but it's not a permanent or ownership thing?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:56 am


Shayne Indra

Ohhh, ok, I see. So there are other people where it's like me and my boy, he really enjoys seeing the collar on me, and it's a tie point, but it's not a permanent or ownership thing?

Yep- there are lots of people like that. 3nodding

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:56 am


Also true. I have been with a few people like that with that level of closed mindedness. I find it sad how closed minded the human race is these days. How can we evolve as a species, let alone in a relationship, if we refuse to learn and change. I guess it doesn't really matter to me, I won't be changing humanity any time soon. It's something they will have to do on their own.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:58 am


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Ohhh, ok, I see. So there are other people where it's like me and my boy, he really enjoys seeing the collar on me, and it's a tie point, but it's not a permanent or ownership thing?

Yep- there are lots of people like that. 3nodding


Oh good. biggrin My anxiety was starting to go off there for a bit. smile Thank you Esiris smile

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:00 am


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Shayne Indra

Ohhh, ok, I see. So there are other people where it's like me and my boy, he really enjoys seeing the collar on me, and it's a tie point, but it's not a permanent or ownership thing?

Yep- there are lots of people like that. 3nodding


Oh good. biggrin My anxiety was starting to go off there for a bit. smile Thank you Esiris smile


I am sorry, it was never my intention to worry you. I should have gone into a better explanation. I was distracted however, I've been talking to my wife for the past hour and I tend to lose myself in our conversations.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:03 am


Shayne Indra

Oh good. biggrin My anxiety was starting to go off there for a bit. smile Thank you Esiris smile
No worries- the really only right and wrongs in BDSM are about consent and the law in my book.

LeonJLoire
Also true. I have been with a few people like that with that level of closed mindedness. I find it sad how closed minded the human race is these days. How can we evolve as a species, let alone in a relationship, if we refuse to learn and change. I guess it doesn't really matter to me, I won't be changing humanity any time soon. It's something they will have to do on their own.

That's pretty ummm.. closed minded of you, since it treats another person's hard limits as a bad thing instead of being willing to take into account how that kind of hard limit develops. confused

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:05 am


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Esiris
Shayne Indra

Ohhh, ok, I see. So there are other people where it's like me and my boy, he really enjoys seeing the collar on me, and it's a tie point, but it's not a permanent or ownership thing?

Yep- there are lots of people like that. 3nodding


Oh good. biggrin My anxiety was starting to go off there for a bit. smile Thank you Esiris smile


I am sorry, it was never my intention to worry you. I should have gone into a better explanation. I was distracted however, I've been talking to my wife for the past hour and I tend to lose myself in our conversations.


No, no, it's ok. biggrin And I'm glad you're getting time to talk to her. heart

I have pretty severe general anxiety issues. I don't remember what my doctor calls it, but I'm medicated to keep me calm pretty much all the time, otherwise, I panic and eventually start hurting myself to get away from ...nothing, everything.

My anxiety will grab hold of me when, like you said, there was nothing intended, it was just that I have a hard time with things around my neck, and with not being able to run if I need to. My collar's too big so that it doesn't make me feel like I'm choking, and it amazes me that when my boy has me bound, I don't panic at all, in fact, I feel more safe than I do normally. I don't think I'd feel that way if it was anyone else though, and so thinking of that and collars being permanent and whatnot made my anxiety go off. smile I know you didn't intend anything, it was purely me. smile
PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:10 am


Esiris
Shayne Indra

Oh good. biggrin My anxiety was starting to go off there for a bit. smile Thank you Esiris smile
No worries- the really only right and wrongs in BDSM are about consent and the law in my book.

LeonJLoire
Also true. I have been with a few people like that with that level of closed mindedness. I find it sad how closed minded the human race is these days. How can we evolve as a species, let alone in a relationship, if we refuse to learn and change. I guess it doesn't really matter to me, I won't be changing humanity any time soon. It's something they will have to do on their own.

That's pretty ummm.. closed minded of you, since it treats another person's hard limits as a bad thing instead of being willing to take into account how that kind of hard limit develops. confused


I suppose that can be considered closed minded. Perhaps I came off too harsh in what I said. I don't think a person should have to forcefully evolve and change. I believe is should be something people want to do. It's when people refuse to want to try new things and experience different aspects of life that bothers me. I used to be that way myself, stubborn and solid in never changing. To be honest it embarrasses me to think I was so immature. If a persona has a logical reason behind a hard limit, then let them get over it on their own if they feel they want to. It's when an illogical hard limit is placed that I feel is wrong on an evolutionary level.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:13 am


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Ohhh, ok, I see. So there are other people where it's like me and my boy, he really enjoys seeing the collar on me, and it's a tie point, but it's not a permanent or ownership thing?

Yep- there are lots of people like that. 3nodding


Oh good. biggrin My anxiety was starting to go off there for a bit. smile Thank you Esiris smile


I am sorry, it was never my intention to worry you. I should have gone into a better explanation. I was distracted however, I've been talking to my wife for the past hour and I tend to lose myself in our conversations.


No, no, it's ok. biggrin And I'm glad you're getting time to talk to her. heart

I have pretty severe general anxiety issues. I don't remember what my doctor calls it, but I'm medicated to keep me calm pretty much all the time, otherwise, I panic and eventually start hurting myself to get away from ...nothing, everything.

My anxiety will grab hold of me when, like you said, there was nothing intended, it was just that I have a hard time with things around my neck, and with not being able to run if I need to. My collar's too big so that it doesn't make me feel like I'm choking, and it amazes me that when my boy has me bound, I don't panic at all, in fact, I feel more safe than I do normally. I don't think I'd feel that way if it was anyone else though, and so thinking of that and collars being permanent and whatnot made my anxiety go off. smile I know you didn't intend anything, it was purely me. smile


I didn't have anxiety until I joined my previous platoon in the military. I would have the shakes to go into work every day and lose most of the enjoyment I got on weekends because I knew work was around the corner. It got to the point where they were physically and mentally abusing me beyond what is within their rights. But thanks to that I did get to move to a much better platoon so I guess it worked out. Point being that I can imagine what it feels like.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:15 am


I must be off. I have a patrol in around five hours so I need my rest. Or as much rest as a cot and sleeping bag will allow. Goodnight for me and good day for most of you.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:24 am


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It's when people refuse to want to try new things and experience different aspects of life that bothers me. I used to be that way myself, stubborn and solid in never changing. To be honest it embarrasses me to think I was so immature.
I don't think being comfortable in a certain approach has to be the same as being immature- like my spouse Annette, they aren't very adventurous- and I am, but I wouldn't call them immature for not being like me. It takes all kinds. 3nodding

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It's when an illogical hard limit is placed that I feel is wrong on an evolutionary level.
Sometimes illogical hard limits are based in evolutionary principles. One of my hard limits in my BDSM is blood sports- on a basic level, the risk of bleeding and the things that can go wrong from being injured have built in an aversion to that kind if injury over the course of evolution even though people get cut every day and it's illogical to think that you'll end up with the statistical short straw and die from it.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:37 am


LeonJLoire
I must be off. I have a patrol in around five hours so I need my rest. Or as much rest as a cot and sleeping bag will allow. Goodnight for me and good day for most of you.


Good night. smile

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:50 am


LeonJLoire
I must be off. I have a patrol in around five hours so I need my rest. Or as much rest as a cot and sleeping bag will allow. Goodnight for me and good day for most of you.

Sleep well.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:12 pm


Esiris
LeonJLoire
It's when people refuse to want to try new things and experience different aspects of life that bothers me. I used to be that way myself, stubborn and solid in never changing. To be honest it embarrasses me to think I was so immature.
I don't think being comfortable in a certain approach has to be the same as being immature- like my spouse Annette, they aren't very adventurous- and I am, but I wouldn't call them immature for not being like me. It takes all kinds. 3nodding

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It's when an illogical hard limit is placed that I feel is wrong on an evolutionary level.
Sometimes illogical hard limits are based in evolutionary principles. One of my hard limits in my BDSM is blood sports- on a basic level, the risk of bleeding and the things that can go wrong from being injured have built in an aversion to that kind if injury over the course of evolution even though people get cut every day and it's illogical to think that you'll end up with the statistical short straw and die from it.


I can understand and agree on hard limits for safety reasons. Though on a personal level I still attempt them. It's the adrenalin rush that makes it work it. And while I am not an adrenalin junkie, my job has made it very hard to still obtain the same rush. Once your life is at risk for periods of time, you tend to get used to it. But when safety isn't a concern I don't see a reason not to try and expand ones borders. I used to be the kind of guy that would adamantly stay in my comfort zone, now I wish I never was like that. All the years I was like that just feels like a waste of time. I view it like those kids you see all the time who refuse to eat certain foods even though they have never had it. They will say and believe that even though they have never had it before, they will hate it if they even attempt to try it.

Don't get my wrong, I am far from the adventurous type. My daily life is actually pretty boring on paper. Heck, I rarely eat something new at restaurants. In a way I am still working on expanding my comfort zone myself. My wife has proven invaluable in this task. But I am no longer closed off to the rest of the world, only interested in whats in front of me and what I already know. I actively seek new things to learn now and don't have a problem with trying new things. Pretty good I think for being closed off and apathetic only four years ago. Being in the military though has slowed progress, but helped advance it in it's own way too. Due to my job I have been several places in the US and outside the country. I have met so many new people, tried new foods, tried different tobacco products like hookah, and learned all sorts of skills. I don't really have the chance to do much in my free time though. Back in garrison I was always too tired after work to do much aside from eat, play video games, and sleep. Weekends only consisted of a restaurant and movies most of the time. I look forward to the possibilities of when I leave the military. Assuming I make it back of course.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:18 pm


Today's patrol was easy. Didn't go far and shilled for a while when we got there. What was odd was the locals. I had around twelve kids chatting with me the whole time, didn't understand a word they were saying. Then they gave me fruit, lots of fruit. I think they were figs, though if they were they were very small. I'm not really a fruit guy, more of a fruit smoothie guy. So I put them in my grenade pouches. I have grenade pouches and no grenades for just such a scenario. One thing about the kids here is that they beg, they beg and beg and beg for every possible thing you MIGHT have. Finally a few of the elders chased them away with sticks and they didn't come back for a while. Odd group of people.
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