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Ah that, yeah... Maybe even have some Brownies pass off as- not trying to be rude here but- midgets as they work on machinery and what not? That's steampunk and "magic" working hand in hand. I can imagine a little hobgoblin now all dressed up in a vest and boots and googles over his head, as he spits and sneers at humans, mumbling curses while he goes repair whatever contraption there is heheh... cute~

If you can set up the world like that it is possible to work as long as the steampunk aspect prevails over the magic stuff. As I said supernatural types seems to go well with the Victorian aspect of steampunk. The rest goes over more into the fantasy than the sci-fi/sci-fy that steampunk presents.

To me magic (in the form of hocus pocus that doesn't have a scientific root) takes away from what steampunk means. I mean if someone was to throw a fairy at me dressed only in Victorian attire and goggles and throwing out magic through a wand I'd verbally slap them for presenting me with a poser type of steampunk. Brass and Goggles do not equal steampunk. It's not just looks it's a lifestyle.

Man I really feel the steampunk elitist coming out of me with this and I am far on the bottom of the totem poll when it comes to the SP community. Interest and appreciation but you won't see me dressed like them or going around making things. I don't have the money or skills.


Anyhow the thing is that Lili hasn't told us which races are in the list of 'creatures' so this leaves us to decide on our own and that's a little confusing since everyone's perception of what steampunk is may vary heavily. ...I have a strong urge to watch the Bioshock Infinite trailer again.

there's a new bioshock? wait why not have magic explained like they do through bioshock, that way theres a reason for the magic

Those things do already exist in the steampunk community, Telsa guns, harnessing electricity in a portable manner to power the guns. Automated dolls. And for some reason people have made goggles a stable of steampunk fashion to some degree though others have been able to pull it off without it.

Yes they are doing the Bioshock Infinite due out next year. And how is there magic in Bioshock? If you watch the gameplay rewatch it over and over again and watch it carefully for details and you'll notice that there are a lot of strange things going on there.

If you watch the new one then you see that what looks like 'tonics' have replaced the hypos. That seems to be a play on the old medicines of that age where people thought that eletroshock was the cure-all for all mental instabilities and chugging stuff like castor oil could cure simple ailments. But the thing is Bioshock explains it through science.

The thing with steampunk is looking back at a time and foreseeing a future with it. Going back just to go forwards, the effortless wave of the hand type of magic would be going back to go back even further to pull ahead just a tiny bit. As I said the Victorian times messed with the occult and supernatural you'll see more about ghosts, spirits, werewolves, and vampires, holding seances, and the like so they would be more gothic in the fantasy terms.

For the part above I hold supernatural and magic in two different categories.

I looked around to see what other arguments people had on magic in the realm of steampunk. I think one person said it in a way that reflects how I feel about it best. Magic/strong fantasy in a Victorian Steampunk setting doesn't really fit well it's magic (hocus pocus type) in a world of advancing technology and industry, it's old and behind. But steampunk in a more fantasy based setting works better because in a setting like that there is more freedom.

Basically I'm trying to point out the major focus on the Victorian part of this Victorian Steampunk RP. If it were just fantasy steampunk that would be something else.

And the first two Bioshocks along with anything you saw in Suckerpunch wasn't Steampunk that's Dieselpunk.

I'm tempted to play a human of mine named Zaldin. He's an absent minded professor type (gets into his work, forgets to eat, or listen). He wears a top hat and suit, and has a pet gecko named Victor. He also has an ox named Farfetnugen.

I have a read like half of one of the books in the series of Artemis Fowle and was just thinking about it, but yeah fearies and technology. I was in sixth grade at the time and I had to take a reading class, don't know why since my readin and writing skills soar much higher than average.

My character(s), well there's two but my main one, will be a ranking officer, maybe a Lieutenant or Captain. But kinda taking it from Hanatuskihime, they have a contract with a faerie as they have her heart in them, and will have to give it back sooner or later, and the character is pretty defiant of that fearie.

Okay I know I'm going to be viewed as bitchy for this but first Jay, please watch your grammar and capitalize letters when need be, especially when it's at the beginning of a sentence.

Secondly please explain why it is that you had to explain the book to us.