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 Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:28 pm
4shi Aakosir But anyways, eating disorders are most likely a symptom of one of these disorders. I don't think they deserve to be called a disorder by themselves. I beg to differ. I studied dance for a long time, and I ran into anorexics or those suffering from ED not specified who came from otherwise well-adjusted homes. Dance is such a high risk for eating disorders (hell, I developed bulimia) because there's lots of pressure to be thin. I was lucky as my school didn't have a weight requirement, so I didn't have weigh-ins. For an idea, ask any dancer who has had to experience that and bring your own barf bucket. It will make you sick as to how they conform to their weight and sometimes try to hide their disorder. It's not pretty, and most are-as mentioned before-otherwise well-adjusted kids from good homes. Sometimes it's the environment that pressures you.
I really think society needs a make over, or a wake up call... How is it there all all these shows with fat guys married to fit healthy women? I don't really think that's how it goes in the "real world". I hate the views of modern society...
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:46 pm
Aakosir 4shi Aakosir But anyways, eating disorders are most likely a symptom of one of these disorders. I don't think they deserve to be called a disorder by themselves. I beg to differ. I studied dance for a long time, and I ran into anorexics or those suffering from ED not specified who came from otherwise well-adjusted homes. Dance is such a high risk for eating disorders (hell, I developed bulimia) because there's lots of pressure to be thin. I was lucky as my school didn't have a weight requirement, so I didn't have weigh-ins. For an idea, ask any dancer who has had to experience that and bring your own barf bucket. It will make you sick as to how they conform to their weight and sometimes try to hide their disorder. It's not pretty, and most are-as mentioned before-otherwise well-adjusted kids from good homes. Sometimes it's the environment that pressures you.
I really think society needs a make over, or a wake up call... How is it there all all these shows with fat guys married to fit healthy women? I don't really think that's how it goes in the "real world". I hate the views of modern society...Many have really fought the mainstream media's portrayal of women for a long time. If you speak to an average person, though, you'll find they don't consider the woman who graces Cosmo "hot" but anorexic and sickly. The ultimate solution? I've found it's best to stop paying attention to it unless it's absolutely unavoidable. ETA: And luckily the dance communities are slowly moving away from the waif-thin dancer image and more for the healthy dancer. This is mostly due to: 1. Balanchine has been dead for a very long time (why he was allowed in the community in the first place I'll never know; the man was practically a *****. Ok, he was more of an ephebophile. Then again, sexual issues in the dance world are sorta of an unaddressed issue); 2. Many are finding that ED dancers don't dance for long.
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:20 pm
4shi Many have really fought the mainstream media's portrayal of women for a long time. If you speak to an average person, though, you'll find they don't consider the woman who graces Cosmo "hot" but anorexic and sickly. The ultimate solution? I've found it's best to stop paying attention to it unless it's absolutely unavoidable. ETA: And luckily the dance communities are slowly moving away from the waif-thin dancer image and more for the healthy dancer. This is mostly due to: 1. Balanchine has been dead for a very long time (why he was allowed in the community in the first place I'll never know; the man was practically a *****. Ok, he was more of an ephebophile. Then again, sexual issues in the dance world are sorta of an unaddressed issue); 2. Many are finding that ED dancers don't dance for long.
And I couldn't imagine having an eating disorder and doing strenuous activities would be good for the body at all. It's amazing they don't tell people they are too skinny.
I don't like Cosmo that much. All it is is sex and gossip, Allure is actually different. They concentrate on health and make-up and some interviews with celebs. They actually gave me a better opinion of Eva Longoria, but I still think most of those women are aneroxic.
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:20 am
Aakosir I've heard a lot of bad things about dance and sexual happenings. And I just looked up Balanchine and he looks like a pervert just from the picture. Why would anyone trust someone like that? They probably ignored it, if they noticed it, due to lots of stereotypes and what was perceived as "brilliance" (personally, I think he's slightly overrated). Aakosir
And I couldn't imagine having an eating disorder and doing strenuous activities would be good for the body at all. It's amazing they don't tell people they are too skinny.This is why I suggested you ask about weigh-ins. They are also designed to "catch" those who are too skinny, but some dancers actually put rocks in their shoes to seem like an appropriate weight. They will try to make you gain weight if you are too skinny in theory, but it wasn't always the case. I think the major companies at least have more help now for dancers and push for them to be slightly healthier. Aakosir
I don't like Cosmo that much. All it is is sex and gossip, Allure is actually different. They concentrate on health and make-up and some interviews with celebs. They actually gave me a better opinion of Eva Longoria, but I still think most of those women are aneroxic.Sadly, they're all the same to me anymore. I'm more inclined to not even care about what they cover because even if it's a topic that interests me they don't give the full story.
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:31 am
4shi Aakosir I've heard a lot of bad things about dance and sexual happenings. And I just looked up Balanchine and he looks like a pervert just from the picture. Why would anyone trust someone like that? They probably ignored it, if they noticed it, due to lots of stereotypes and what was perceived as "brilliance" (personally, I think he's slightly overrated). Aakosir
And I couldn't imagine having an eating disorder and doing strenuous activities would be good for the body at all. It's amazing they don't tell people they are too skinny.This is why I suggested you ask about weigh-ins. They are also designed to "catch" those who are too skinny, but some dancers actually put rocks in their shoes to seem like an appropriate weight. They will try to make you gain weight if you are too skinny in theory, but it wasn't always the case. I think the major companies at least have more help now for dancers and push for them to be slightly healthier. Aakosir
I don't like Cosmo that much. All it is is sex and gossip, Allure is actually different. They concentrate on health and make-up and some interviews with celebs. They actually gave me a better opinion of Eva Longoria, but I still think most of those women are aneroxic.Sadly, they're all the same to me anymore. I'm more inclined to not even care about what they cover because even if it's a topic that interests me they don't give the full story. So this guy was pretty much a pervert with "ideas" about how to make the dance world better, all while abusing the stereotypes for his own gain?
I can relate that to my husband weigh ins, same with when my brother was wrestling. I think my husband is technically underweight according to Marines' standards. I've noticed a major weight loss, but he hasn't changed his eating habits... He can eat whatever, sit around and do nothing, but still not gain weight so that would be hard for him if he actually fell under his weight. But with my brother's wrestling, they obviously had to be a certain weight for certain classes. Some couldn't wrestle because they were too small and didn't have a match. Although it's a bit different, I know they have tricks to be an appropriate weight.
In the magazine they give the full story, online they don't since most people aren't subscribed. It's only $12 a year for a subscription though and they do have interesting articles.
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 11:47 pm
there's another disorder for me: adult selective.
i was the picky eating nightmare when i was a kid, but everyone (even me) thought that i'd outgrow it, and i really didn't. i'm 27 and still don't eat carrots, celery, raisins, tomatoes, peppers (even table pepper), baloney, tuna fish, most fish (except fish sticks), beans (of any sort), most nuts (except peanuts and cashews).
and people have tried to sneak the bad food into my food, and there's no tricking me. i really don't know how to break out of it.
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 7:19 am
SchizoSpazz there's another disorder for me: adult selective. i was the picky eating nightmare when i was a kid, but everyone (even me) thought that i'd outgrow it, and i really didn't. i'm 27 and still don't eat carrots, celery, raisins, tomatoes, peppers (even table pepper), baloney, tuna fish, most fish (except fish sticks), beans (of any sort), most nuts (except peanuts and cashews). and people have tried to sneak the bad food into my food, and there's no tricking me. i really don't know how to break out of it.
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 10:19 am
Aakosir SchizoSpazz there's another disorder for me: adult selective. i was the picky eating nightmare when i was a kid, but everyone (even me) thought that i'd outgrow it, and i really didn't. i'm 27 and still don't eat carrots, celery, raisins, tomatoes, peppers (even table pepper), baloney, tuna fish, most fish (except fish sticks), beans (of any sort), most nuts (except peanuts and cashews). and people have tried to sneak the bad food into my food, and there's no tricking me. i really don't know how to break out of it. and the thing is, i've tried myself (because it's kinda pathetic to be an adult and be this picky), other people have cajoled me into eating the food i don't like (sometimes it works and i like it, usually i don't), and it's like there's still a texture, spice, or taste problem. and it's become if the bad food is being served, i won't eat it. i'll say 'i'm not hungry,' even if i am, so they won't pressure me to eat.
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 3:45 pm
SchizoSpazz Aakosir SchizoSpazz there's another disorder for me: adult selective. i was the picky eating nightmare when i was a kid, but everyone (even me) thought that i'd outgrow it, and i really didn't. i'm 27 and still don't eat carrots, celery, raisins, tomatoes, peppers (even table pepper), baloney, tuna fish, most fish (except fish sticks), beans (of any sort), most nuts (except peanuts and cashews). and people have tried to sneak the bad food into my food, and there's no tricking me. i really don't know how to break out of it. and the thing is, i've tried myself (because it's kinda pathetic to be an adult and be this picky), other people have cajoled me into eating the food i don't like (sometimes it works and i like it, usually i don't), and it's like there's still a texture, spice, or taste problem. and it's become if the bad food is being served, i won't eat it. i'll say 'i'm not hungry,' even if i am, so they won't pressure me to eat.
But I do understand the texture thing. Even some babies don't like certain textures. My pediatrician was very picky about feeding my daughter everything when she was little, so I did. She loves olives, but I hate them XD
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:55 pm
i disagree with you. my cousin has binge eating disorder. it sounds amusing; of course anyone can just stop eating, if they really want to! but some cannot; they are food addicts. and imagine being addicted to something you have to have in order to live, you HAVE to ingest some, every day, and still try to resist your addiction.... it can kill you, and fairly quickly. for info, contact the Rudd Center at Yale University http://www.yaleruddcenter.org/resources/upload/docs/what/bias/WeightBiasSummit_1.11.pdf
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:15 am
chessiejo i disagree with you. my cousin has binge eating disorder. it sounds amusing; of course anyone can just stop eating, if they really want to! but some cannot; they are food addicts. and imagine being addicted to something you have to have in order to live, you HAVE to ingest some, every day, and still try to resist your addiction.... it can kill you, and fairly quickly. for info, contact the Rudd Center at Yale University http://www.yaleruddcenter.org/resources/upload/docs/what/bias/WeightBiasSummit_1.11.pdf
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