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 Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:09 pm
candy!x0x0 Everyone who agrees with this thread should shop at the store Hot Topic! Every time you make a purchase, they ask you to donate a dollar to help keep fine arts in the schools. So donate your dollars to hot topic. Every little bit helps! http://community.hottopic.com/content/charitiesanyways here's the page with info on all the progress they have made. They've raised over 5,000,000 dollars! I'm not trying to be an advertisement, but they're a good way to help if you can't afford to do much. Every little bit helps! Thank you! I think this should really help out maybe if I show this to the other bands students at my school. I never really thought about looking up things like this that would support the fine arts. it's bad enough that we might lose our band teacher, but our art teacher is being put on half time.
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:12 pm
NeoRaptor99 At our school the band went from a budget of 2000 dollars to about 100 dollars in like 4 years, so we have to raise all our money to be able to go to festivals which cost 500 and trips and what not so thats our story luckily our school requires a fine art credit to graduate which means piano and guitar are taken which means our fine arts teachers are fairly safe cause if they got rid of them kids wouldn't be graduating yeah i sort of know what you mean. my band class recently had a discussion with our super intedent, and our ptincipal about how to keep or Bd here, and he told us that we basically have $200,000 in our account for the school which means that we're down to the last bit of money we have for the school. So if the budget cuts go through our schools gone because we're small.
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:18 pm
290Pika ...can seriously kiss my a** right now! Ugh! At the college I'm attending in the fall, they're currently preventing any new music minors from entering the minor program. It sucks, because the only worthy music classes are only available to the music majors (classes like Theory and Ear Training). The only music classes open to non-majors are GE and performing ensembles. It's really hit my high school band lately, too. They're hardly doing any competitions next year as to what they're used to, and they don't get to go to championships. :[ yeah that's bad when you can't get into the classes you want. anything should be open to people trying to take classes they need, but i'm not sure i should be saying that since I'm a freshmen in highschool. it's kind of odd because the govener here want to take money that helps keep k-12 grade schools running to colleges, which seems very bad in my opinion, but recently on the news they said he might be recalled as the govener of my state.
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:22 pm
Stefan Lee Salvatore Last year our entire band program WAS cut out. All of the band geeks were FREAKING out. They managaed to scrape enough money to let us keep it, but only barely. This year we have had to do ALOT of fundraisers so we can keep it agai next year.... stupid idiotic gov cutting band. i know it gets hard for small schools too. we don't have to get rid of the band, but they want to get rid of the person who actually made us great after he came. It's terrible what the governments doing by taking money away from us because they think it's helping.
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:30 pm
lugiosmuzz We've had this curse since before I can remember: No assistant band director has lasted in our band program for over two years. When we finally get one that's planning on staying for another year, the school cut his position. The Curse strikes again!As one can imagine, this last marching season would have been impossible without the elementary school's music teacher (an ex-assistant band director that's as fruity as the Chiquita Banana lady's hat). We've also had our budget cut to a third of what it was three years ago; our band may not afford to compete in St. Louis, an overnight trip that everyone looks forward to. However, I realize that we're still really lucky: we can still afford top-notch music arrangements and percussion techs, and we still have this program. I hate that the arts is getting neglected all over... yeah the stinkin government doesn't understand what they are doing. A small % thinks that they're doing great because we must "move foward" but all this budget cutting isn't going to get us no where if the future of this country is us, and we aren't getting the education we need. instead here where i live the government wants to give it to collages instead of schools where they need it the most.
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:33 pm
While I am here commenting back on everyone this is what I had to say to the people who actually agree with the "Cuts" that think we need to
" Keep moving foward"
Do people actually know what these cuts are doing to people? Especially the schools. Because of these cuts many schools have to downsize. From cutting teachers, getting rids of sports, and many other things. It also might cause some schools to close because they get the money from the per pupil funding, which would cause schools to have less money because they're giving it to collages, instead of the places that actually teach students what they need before going to collage. We need a diploma before we ever reach collage! So stop these C-U-T-S!
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:12 pm
I agree full-heartedly about the school cuts. I think that it is totally unfair to us because they are limiting the resources needed to educate their FUTURE workers and citizens. Cutting school budgets like they are now limits resources for our education, be it band, science, anything. The only thing that does not seem to get cut really is the athletics department (at my school at least). Sure, being atheletic is important, but when the whole school covers for a big meal, charter buses, and everything for the team and not a penny to the band, I get ticked off. We have to raise that money ourselves, and that's hard, because we have to pay for EVERYTHING we need, like new drum heads, new tubas, an oboe, you name it.
It doesn't stop there. The science department also suffers. Because of the budget cuts, funds for lab activities are limited to the teachers' own pockets, and teachers do not really get paid that much to begin with, which is another sorry and annoying thing. We get stuck with having equipment that is outdated and not what we need for our proper experiment and don't to fully enjoy the real workings of science that other, better funded schools get.
And with the teachers. I think it is pathetic that they do not pay teachers as well I think they deserve. These people are the people who help mold our minds to become great and better people when we enter the real world. They teach us what we need to know and how to deal with life. If I was given the power to decide a teacher's wages, I would pay them as much as those fancy-shmancy athletes that get aid thousands. I'm not being mean about them, but teachers have to put up with 30+ kids every single weekday for almost a year. They have to put up with the ones that act up, they have to come up with lesson plans to educate us. These people who help mold the clay that is our minds deserve better pay than what they get!
And lastly, these cuts are causing people to lose their jobs. Are we not wanting to create jobs so people can have work? These cuts are making it harder for students to learn properly and for teachers to be available for the number of students and for people to hold a JOB. It is ridiculous that our education is being cut for other things that they deem 'important.' Is our education not important enough for them that they cut it like they do? WE are the future of our WORLD. What are they going to do with us when we enter the world with no education? Many jobs today require a high school diploma and/or a college degree. And teachers worked hard to go to college to learn what they need to learn to teach US. Do they WANT us to not be properly educated? Are we not important enough for them to waste money on schools, school programs, and teachers?
I would like to think otherwise. Sorry for the rant. I got caught up in it.
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:22 am
You know what else is ridiculous?
My school has discussed cutting music classes in order to "make room for classes that will actuallly impact our futures".
Soo.. what about students like me that are going to major in music education, or someone that wants to major in say.. trombone performance.
Do they not realize that for some people music IS their future?
No, they don't.
brb cutting the band program so we can build the football team a second weight room lolz
Maybe I'll give up majoring in music ed and try to get on the BOE hahaha.
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:52 am
Hikari Myst I agree full-heartedly about the school cuts. I think that it is totally unfair to us because they are limiting the resources needed to educate their FUTURE workers and citizens. Cutting school budgets like they are now limits resources for our education, be it band, science, anything. The only thing that does not seem to get cut really is the athletics department (at my school at least). Sure, being atheletic is important, but when the whole school covers for a big meal, charter buses, and everything for the team and not a penny to the band, I get ticked off. We have to raise that money ourselves, and that's hard, because we have to pay for EVERYTHING we need, like new drum heads, new tubas, an oboe, you name it. It doesn't stop there. The science department also suffers. Because of the budget cuts, funds for lab activities are limited to the teachers' own pockets, and teachers do not really get paid that much to begin with, which is another sorry and annoying thing. We get stuck with having equipment that is outdated and not what we need for our proper experiment and don't to fully enjoy the real workings of science that other, better funded schools get. And with the teachers. I think it is pathetic that they do not pay teachers as well I think they deserve. These people are the people who help mold our minds to become great and better people when we enter the real world. They teach us what we need to know and how to deal with life. If I was given the power to decide a teacher's wages, I would pay them as much as those fancy-shmancy athletes that get aid thousands. I'm not being mean about them, but teachers have to put up with 30+ kids every single weekday for almost a year. They have to put up with the ones that act up, they have to come up with lesson plans to educate us. These people who help mold the clay that is our minds deserve better pay than what they get! And lastly, these cuts are causing people to lose their jobs. Are we not wanting to create jobs so people can have work? These cuts are making it harder for students to learn properly and for teachers to be available for the number of students and for people to hold a JOB. It is ridiculous that our education is being cut for other things that they deem 'important.' Is our education not important enough for them that they cut it like they do? WE are the future of our WORLD. What are they going to do with us when we enter the world with no education? Many jobs today require a high school diploma and/or a college degree. And teachers worked hard to go to college to learn what they need to learn to teach US. Do they WANT us to not be properly educated? Are we not important enough for them to waste money on schools, school programs, and teachers? I would like to think otherwise. Sorry for the rant. I got caught up in it. no it is totally alright. I agree with every single word you typed. and i bet that the people here where i'm living would agree even more. our govener is making so many budget cuts that he thinks he's helping us, whne he's only making it worse on the state especially in the school department, where they take the money that is ment for schools, and giving it woo collages to use instead, leaving less money for elementary- high school to use it just not right to do that to us.
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:56 am
svalur You know what else is ridiculous?
My school has discussed cutting music classes in order to "make room for classes that will actuallly impact our futures".
Soo.. what about students like me that are going to major in music education, or someone that wants to major in say.. trombone performance.
Do they not realize that for some people music IS their future?
No, they don't.
brb cutting the band program so we can build the football team a second weight room lolz
Maybe I'll give up majoring in music ed and try to get on the BOE hahaha. wow that is so stupid! my school would never think about getting rid of the band but instead they want to get rid of a teacher because he doesn't have seniority over the person with the same degree as him, and he's the one who's made the band even better than this person with seniority who had the band almost 6 feet under. but our sports program might suffer also because i go to a small school so we might do a pay to play league here instead of try outs and everything.
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:58 am
The United States is in trillions of dollars in national debt.
They that budget cuts of schools is helping that matter when it's not. :T
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 10:45 am
svalur You know what else is ridiculous?
My school has discussed cutting music classes in order to "make room for classes that will actuallly impact our futures".
Soo.. what about students like me that are going to major in music education, or someone that wants to major in say.. trombone performance.
Do they not realize that for some people music IS their future?
No, they don't.
brb cutting the band program so we can build the football team a second weight room lolz
Maybe I'll give up majoring in music ed and try to get on the BOE hahaha. Exactly! My school built a SECOND GYM. Meanwhile, they were threatenign to cut our band program. And what is the gym used for? PRACTICE. It only has one set of bleachers. Wtf?! They also redid the science classrooms. I understand that a bit more; our old ones were falling apart and we had no labs. The new ones have labs, sinks, etc. They also hold more people. Now, they build a culinary arts/media facility. Fist off, we have rooms for those. Perfectly decent rooms. Secondly, our band was without a director when they started workign on it. They could afford a new facility, but not a new band director? So we got a choir director. She worked as director of everything music at my school. And new isntruments? We kinda need them. at least repairs to ours. we finally got new sousas; curtesy of band booster fundraising when we realized that ours were over 50 years old. Most of our instruments are borrowed from otehr schools because ours can't afford to buy new ones for us. It once took 2 monthes for me to get an alto sax for jazz bnd because we didn't have any and neither did anyone else in town. The one I finally recieved is held together with duct tape and has pieces welded on by what looks like an amateur. Its a ghetto sax, seriously. And it barely palys at all. Yeah, I'm definately NOT embarassed to play a solo on that -_-
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 12:40 pm
10 years ago because of low test grades on a state wide test my city cut our music and art classes for elementary schools... so our bands dropped down to 30 members in the middle schools and 15 or less in the high schools.... but now due to my awesome new high school band director he's trying to rebuild the programs and our high school band is at 50 members and growing! ^^ we went to MICCA and won a silver medal and then we went to the Heritage Music Festival in Virginia and won a gold. So whatever happens don't let them cut the music and arts or kids like us will never expierence preforming that simply epic piece on a concert stage or football field!
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 4:11 pm
My School cut our assistant band director, Miss Gunn. Shes the best if you ask me. this was her first year here, and a lot of people gave her crap. She really is nice. You gotta get to know her. And i was peeved when I heard that. I mean, at least they didn't cut band entirely. But without Miss Gunn it wouldn't be fun. She has helped me so much, and I have gotten sooo much better!
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 4:54 pm
I figured out why Government hates art type classes, they want us to be bland, be 'politicans', like anybody wants, like you sit there, nobody cares what you say, they want to make you keep everthing bottled up, somebody in the government is about to lose it, I swear it, music inspired half the things in the United States, if they think that cutting it would just be the same as cutting new arcetecture, art, and entertaniment, etc. It wounldn't solve ANYTHING, I heard that famous artists was inspired by music, again, WOULDN'T SOLVE ANYTHING!!!
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