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 Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 8:49 am
heh... sweatdrop yeah. i guess i'm better on thinking of ideas rather than just how to carry them out.. I wonder if there'd be some strife as to which one gets used... etc.. i mean. i know the COT's existing one has a lot of guild funds as it is... and the other forums while going into mothballs for a while could still be reserved for usage in the future... as places that branch out certain programs that rise up out of that church which take on a life of their own. but... all guild captain and crews would probably have to be ok with it.. I wonder if there's a way we could summon all the members of all three guilds and any extra christian guilds anyone knows of... and get them together in one thread to discuss how everyone would feel about doing that. I know some people in real life prefer small close knit churches.. but let's be honest... in some of these small groups.. they aren't getting used very much.. which makes me feel like someone wasted 20Kg which is a lot of gold to waste. And... if we can all unite.. all the better. The church would be a lot more powerful if we'd all come together anyways.
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 8:54 am
Well I did some brainstorming with Japi. And here is what we came up with:
What we can do is post our idea in every christian guild we know of and see if they want to join up. We can then maybe link them to a thread, (we can make one here) , that we can all discuss if and how we want to do this.
A way we can unite together is having a thread with links to the other guilds in each guild. We can even give the whole group a name like, The United Christian Guilds of Gaia, which we can even make sigs/banners for.
This is what we have come up with so far, how does this sound?
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:25 pm
Sorry, I'm skimming this - but, here are my views:
On the "United Christian Guilds of Gaia": I'm okay with it. But - do these alliances really bring much [or "group of guilds"]? I'm in another guild, and we have plenty of alliances - but it doesn't bring us many new members, or even more posting activity. I think it might just be a whole big waste of time.
Now, if you're talking about the actual merging of the guilds - NO WAY. I'm not comfortable in huge guilds [ex. Let the Fire Fall], because I often feel secluded or ignored due to the posting spree. Merging some smaller guilds to create an average-sized guild is good, but I'm not for merging all of them together.
On Guild Activity: We're all having this problem. What this guild needs is something to keep members comming back. We need member insentive, we need something to attract them here. What makes this guild any different from the one down the street? Why should I go here and not to that other Christian guild?
And - I have noticed that a lot of members just join and then never post. You have to PM those people personally to "wake them up" and remind them to come back to this guild. Once you have them here, you have to make this guild appeal to their interests in order that they will stay [refer to above paragraph].
On the forum: *coughs* You have some cleaning up to do. What is this "Hi I'm new here" thread when we already have a Welcome thread? Why do we have "prayer" thread when we already have a Prayer thread? Mods - you have to clean up this place. Repeat topics are a no-no. They make the guild messy, and it distracts from the stickies.
On the title of this guild: Why do you call this "Warriors for Christ"? To me, this looks like an inactive, sitting church. Would warriors just sit around in lala land chatting with each other? No! They'd go out and serve their masters in battle!
Isn't that what we're supposed to be doing? Hmm? I volunteer to set up a debate team here [debate = fight for God] if people promise to participate. Maybe then we can actually live up to our name. What do you say?
Maybe I'll also find some pics to work with to form a banner...We need banners here.
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:27 pm
Anyway - sorry if that seemed a bit harsh or so. 3nodding That's just er...how I speak?
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:36 pm
Yami Baku Sorry, I'm skimming this - but, here are my views: On the "United Christian Guilds of Gaia": I'm okay with it. But - do these alliances really bring much [or "group of guilds"]? I'm in another guild, and we have plenty of alliances - but it doesn't bring us many new members, or even more posting activity. I think it might just be a whole big waste of time. Now, if you're talking about the actual merging of the guilds - NO WAY. I'm not comfortable in huge guilds [ex. Let the Fire Fall], because I often feel secluded or ignored due to the posting spree. Merging some smaller guilds to create an average-sized guild is good, but I'm not for merging all of them together. On Guild Activity: We're all having this problem. What this guild needs is something to keep members comming back. We need member insentive, we need something to attract them here. What makes this guild any different from the one down the street? Why should I go here and not to that other Christian guild? And - I have noticed that a lot of members just join and then never post. You have to PM those people personally to "wake them up" and remind them to come back to this guild. Once you have them here, you have to make this guild appeal to their interests in order that they will stay [refer to above paragraph]. On the forum: *coughs* You have some cleaning up to do. What is this "Hi I'm new here" thread when we already have a Welcome thread? Why do we have "prayer" thread when we already have a Prayer thread? Mods - you have to clean up this place. Repeat topics are a no-no. They make the guild messy, and it distracts from the stickies. On the title of this guild: Why do you call this "Warriors for Christ"? To me, this looks like an inactive, sitting church. Would warriors just sit around in lala land chatting with each other? No! They'd go out and serve their masters in battle! Isn't that what we're supposed to be doing? Hmm? I volunteer to set up a debate team here [debate = fight for God] if people promise to participate. Maybe then we can actually live up to our name. What do you say? Maybe I'll also find some pics to work with to form a banner...We need banners here. Sounds good to me! I think Im gonna start tomorrow after class with PMing inactive members. I'm also in the process of making a banner... I just need to finish it up. Im also thinking of actually drawing another banner. It'll be difficult and I need to get my wacom working. Anywho... I gotta head for bed... heheheh.... rhymed... but yeah. Sleep well y'all.
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:31 pm
Psst. You didn't need to quote the whole thing. 3nodding xd
I have a Wacom tablet too! xd I got it for Christmas...I've only made 3 pictures on it so far [hand drawn, not photo-edit]. If I do a banner for here, chances are it isnt' going to be hand-drawn. I only do hand-drawn pictures on request [payment required], or a guild I'm SUPER devoted to [I'll admit it, my passion for this guild isn't as much as the CBS or UFFG].
Hand-drawn pictures are just too time-consuming. I spend a lot of my time typing/writing for my guilds [that's why my posts are super long], because I tend to have a lot of input. My passion for art isn't as strong anymore, with the exception of poetry [limericks]. 3nodding
Besides, any banner I do for here is bound to be Sir Auron related...0.o
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 4:55 am
A debate team sounds good(sorry for the late response). You are more than welcome to start it up here. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help. And as for cleaning up...... I plan to do that soon, as soon as I can.
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 11:15 pm
All I'd like is for you to sticky it once it's been created. I believe you were a member of the original one I created...Or wait, am I just remembering things?
But yeah - it was the SOF [Shield of Faith]. I'm looking for a new title, artwork [I might have to take this upon myself], and ACTIVE MEMBERS! The main reason I closed it down last time was because people weren't being active. They'd join- and then go dead.
The result for me? I had to stress out on super-PMing everyone about debate schedules they didn't even attend...So I basically got killed in the debates. stressed Debating puts a lot of stress on me [I like to super-research things], so I want people to share that burden with me...I mean, it's for Christ, is it not?
But - *coughs* I'm not going to deal with an inactive debate team AGAIN. Thus, I will be charging entrance fee and requiring input. This will insure commitment. I am still contemplating whether to set it up or not.
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 10:10 am
Yeah I remember how that was..... unfortuanately I was one of those inactive people... I'm usually pretty busy so it is hard for me to find a good chunk of time to be on gaia, so hardly ever get streams of posts in one thread in one day. I feel guilty for still wanted to be a part of it even though I could only participate a small part of the time. I suggest having a trail debate and maybe play the devils advocate to give everyone a taste of debating to see if they would be willing to participate. Another thing was you only tried one topic, maybe other topics could have turned out better. You could always try the first topic later after everyone is in the groove of things. Etheir way I'm sure you will find out what works and what doesn't, assuming you still want to do it. I wouldn't blame you if you didn't. We'll see how it turns out.
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 4:19 pm
Lithanus Yeah I remember how that was..... unfortuanately I was one of those inactive people... I'm usually pretty busy so it is hard for me to find a good chunk of time to be on gaia, so hardly ever get streams of posts in one thread in one day. Well, I understand that we're all busy. That's why I appointed a sub-leader [who also became inactive]. But, for me, the main question isn't "Will I have time?". It's "What are my priorities?" The reason I [seemed to] have time was because I put the debate team high on my priority list. After all, it's for God, right? If it was debating on Final Fantasy or something else...I wouldn't care half as much. However, it was for God - that's why I was able to spend so much time on it. I dont' think you guys [the members] have any idea how much time and effort I put into that debate team. I spent AT LEAST 10 hours writing up the notes. That's not including the research. I spent at least 2 hours setting up the whole thing...and not to mention PMing the members was also a time-consuming task. It's all about priorities. Lithanus I feel guilty for still wanted to be a part of it even though I could only participate a small part of the time. I set up a whole section on this in the main post to prevent people from ending up like that. I specifically stated that joining the debate team would REQUIRE COMMITMENT. If not, don't join! I couldn't have stressed that enough. Unfortunately, people were too lazy to read it and just joined anyway - and became inactive. stressed But, it's not like I can force people to read things, can I? Lithanus I suggest having a trail debate and maybe play the devils advocate to give everyone a taste of debating to see if they would be willing to participate. Hmm. To play an evolutionist, I have to think like an evolutionist! Let's see - "I believe we came from a prebiotic soup." xd No, I'm just joking. I guess this could work - if I actually plan to set the debate team up...After all, it requires a lot of commmitment on my hand, and I'm not so sure I'm ready to take that up. Lithanus Another thing was you only tried one topic, maybe other topics could have turned out better. You could always try the first topic later after everyone is in the groove of things. There's a reason I only tried out one topic. Here: 1. That is the topic of my main interest. I stated that that would be the topic, and people joined. I can't help it if they ignore what I say and then become inactive because they didn't like the topic. If you don't like the topic, dont' join! 2. I can only do so much research. I can't just "change topics" so much. I like to have my topics well-supported. I'm not willing to pick a topic I know little or nothing about. Lithanus Etheir way I'm sure you will find out what works and what doesn't, assuming you still want to do it. I wouldn't blame you if you didn't. We'll see how it turns out. I'm sorry, but I'm not a trial-and-error type of person. I don't want to try something, then it fails...try another thing, and then it fails...*shakes head* I don't have the time and commitment for that. It's frustrating when things like these don't work out. But - it's not like I gave up super-easy. I kept the debate team going for about a month...I even revamped it and reopened the whole thing. xp Just thinking about this makes me frustrated. 0.o [as you can see] I think I might just fly solo on this, or create a mini-debate team consisting of maybe 3 or 4 devoted members.
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:09 pm
I've been trying to bring myself back to this guild for a long time. But somehow, when I come here, I just can't post and get into it. I suppose I'm afraid of getting hurt. Afraid of getting hurt by the debates that always seem to be taking place here that I know if I get involved it I will spend so much energy on and most of the time they don't seem to accomplish enough.
But I know I can't be afraid forever. So here I am, again.
This guild did was such a tremendous thing for me in my development of a Christian. And the Church of Fools, I prayed to God for a church, and I was given one, though not quite what I was expecting. And last night I was thinking of CoF, of the first service I attended there and how at home I'd felt there even though many of the people who were kneeling with their pixelated representations of themselves around me were millions of miles away.
I miss that. I need fellowship again.
And I want to do something to help.
I have a website, and gigs of bandwidth that isn't being used. Back when I hosted the banners, I was running out of bandwidth every month because of all the people with the banners in thier sigs and I had to give it up because it was more traffic than my website was producing! eek
Make banners, and I'll gladly host them.
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:02 pm
Arqueete I've been trying to bring myself back to this guild for a long time. But somehow, when I come here, I just can't post and get into it. I suppose I'm afraid of getting hurt. Afraid of getting hurt by the debates that always seem to be taking place here that I know if I get involved it I will spend so much energy on and most of the time they don't seem to accomplish enough. But I know I can't be afraid forever. So here I am, again. This guild did was such a tremendous thing for me in my development of a Christian. And the Church of Fools, I prayed to God for a church, and I was given one, though not quite what I was expecting. And last night I was thinking of CoF, of the first service I attended there and how at home I'd felt there even though many of the people who were kneeling with their pixelated representations of themselves around me were millions of miles away. I miss that. I need fellowship again. And I want to do something to help. I have a website, and gigs of bandwidth that isn't being used. Back when I hosted the banners, I was running out of bandwidth every month because of all the people with the banners in thier sigs and I had to give it up because it was more traffic than my website was producing! eek Make banners, and I'll gladly host them. Thank you! Right now I have enough bandwidth on my site but I think Im gonna run out soon. I will PM you when I need it! Thanks again!
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 7:58 pm
Arqueete I've been trying to bring myself back to this guild for a long time. But somehow, when I come here, I just can't post and get into it. I suppose I'm afraid of getting hurt. Afraid of getting hurt by the debates that always seem to be taking place here that I know if I get involved it I will spend so much energy on and most of the time they don't seem to accomplish enough. Oh, I know how you feel. But, us here...when we debate, we're just trying to bring each other up in the knowledge of Christ. We're not trying to hurt you...and you shouldn't get hurt by it, you know? We're just preparing you for when you end up debating with non-Christians...Now, those people pack a punch. They will personally insult you and such, we won't do that here... Arqueete This guild did was such a tremendous thing for me in my development of a Christian. And the Church of Fools, I prayed to God for a church, and I was given one, though not quite what I was expecting. And last night I was thinking of CoF, of the first service I attended there and how at home I'd felt there even though many of the people who were kneeling with their pixelated representations of themselves around me were millions of miles away. Uh...Church of Fools? That's an interesting acronym...Why do you call it that? I felt welcome there, until I got into a conflict with the guild leader. From then, fights erupted...And I've been personally insulted by Faegirl and Gym Goans Jr....at least 3 times. I really don't want to have anything to do with that guild. Nothing at all. But, I'm willing to make friendships with the people there...I'm just staying away from the foundation itself. Okay, I'll stop. Before I get accused of "backstabbing" when I'm only speaking the truth.
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:23 pm
you know? I've been here for well about 1 or 2 months now and I dont know anyone here, I think we all need to get to know one another like PMing someone or something like that. I know we all have lifes off Gaia and out of this Guild but there is alot of members in this Guild and I just think we all need to talk to one another you know get closer and maybe talk about God that kind of thing...
it takes alot to make or get me to talk cause im shy and as soon as I get to know you all you wont be able to stop me from talking! I think others are like that too and all they need is others who wont to be friends with them, to talk to them!
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:53 pm
mae_wings you know? I've been here for well about 1 or 2 months now and I dont know anyone here, I think we all need to get to know one another like PMing someone or something like that. I know we all have lifes off Gaia and out of this Guild but there is alot of members in this Guild and I just think we all need to talk to one another you know get closer and maybe talk about God that kind of thing... it takes alot to make or get me to talk cause im shy and as soon as I get to know you all you wont be able to stop me from talking! I think others are like that too and all they need is others who wont to be friends with them, to talk to them! That is a good point. We may be able to solve this with some ice breaker threads or something. All we need is some sort of thread that encourages responses from all members. Anyone is welcome to start them, just make sure they follow the rules posted in the announcements.
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