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 Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:30 pm
Sakakikala Anon is pretty amazing, take it as a compliment or an insult(like amazingly stupid?), its just amazing at how many of them there are and all, and how well organized they are. You guys remember how they attacked visa for cutting off donations to wikileaks(if a person used their visa credit/debit card to donate wikileaks, visa wouldn't, or something like that). anyway, this is anon's vid addressed to the church of Scientology. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCbKv9yiLiQCitizen Radio also interviewed someone involved with them. It was a really great interview. People don't seem to understand that Anonymous is not an organization in any sense of the word. There is no leader, no framework, just message boards. Someone comes up with a hare-brained scheme and someone else thinks it'll be funny and then it spreads. Usually by the time the moralfags have taken over, most of the anons have moved on to greener lulz. An example is how little Anonymous cares about Scientiology after Chanology happened. Another example is the DDoSing that went down after the Wikileaks stuff happened; after a few raids were accomplished the whole thing faded into the background. The hivemind has a very short attention span. If it doesn't get accomplished within a few days time then it won't because interest drops off continually from the moment the operation is declared. Usually anyone that claims to speak for Anonymous doesn't know what the ******** they're talking about and sometimes becomes a target themselves. Rules 1 & 2 are taken very seriously when it means there are lulz to be had from ruining someone.
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:56 pm
Obscurus Sakakikala Anon is pretty amazing, take it as a compliment or an insult(like amazingly stupid?), its just amazing at how many of them there are and all, and how well organized they are. You guys remember how they attacked visa for cutting off donations to wikileaks(if a person used their visa credit/debit card to donate wikileaks, visa wouldn't, or something like that). anyway, this is anon's vid addressed to the church of Scientology. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCbKv9yiLiQCitizen Radio also interviewed someone involved with them. It was a really great interview. People don't seem to understand that Anonymous is not an organization in any sense of the word. There is no leader, no framework, just message boards. Someone comes up with a hare-brained scheme and someone else thinks it'll be funny and then it spreads. Usually by the time the moralfags have taken over, most of the anons have moved on to greener lulz. An example is how little Anonymous cares about Scientiology after Chanology happened. Another example is the DDoSing that went down after the Wikileaks stuff happened; after a few raids were accomplished the whole thing faded into the background. The hivemind has a very short attention span. If it doesn't get accomplished within a few days time then it won't because interest drops off continually from the moment the operation is declared. Usually anyone that claims to speak for Anonymous doesn't know what the ******** they're talking about and sometimes becomes a target themselves. Rules 1 & 2 are taken very seriously when it means there are lulz to be had from ruining someone.
The one problem that isn't being looked into is that people look at anonymous as one thing, a large majority of people with one mission: Lulz.
When, really, anonymous is just full of many members with people acting as committee members and having whoever wants to follow, follow.
Sure, some may not give a damn. However, some do. Some people give a damn just for the lulz. Point is, they do some pretty awesome stuff, moral good reasons or not.
Although, anonymous has died down lately. The hype has died down, making it hard to keep anonymous has something....well...something to be remembered. They have little members left and they really don't care anymore. That's why so many newfags and oldfags don't respect rules 1 & 2 anymore:
After moot and snacks attacking 4chan after hearing MGS4 was the last game with snake, everyone kinda just left for 420chan. Potheads ruled the lulz of internet just as it should be.
Not to mention if no one cares about anonymous anymore, they don't fear talking about 4chan or them specifically. Why? Because no one is targeted anymore, not even popular things such as flashes/movies that contain 4chan related content.
But yeah, anonymous is just a bag of random, doing things for either lulz or motives with a variety of people with in and doing things for different reasons.
Some blow up vans, others close pools due to AIDz.
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:45 am
I never said they were an organization, i just said they were organized.(the interview i spoke of on citizen radio explains THAT in depth...)
I mean you'd have to be organized to do some of the shizz they do.
Why do people get so jumpy when people note they are organized when they do some of their things, such as the church of Scientology thing? Even my boyfriend freaked out going on about "We are everyone and we are no one" and some of their other stuff.
Its a group nonetheless. Pure anarchy, but ya know what anarchy is- at least to some extent? democracy without leaders- everyone has a say. (Howard zinn said something along those lines)
I don't really see any harm in calling them a group. Anyone can be anon- it's something you choose to do. And they all meet up in certain places(message boards)- like groups do. Now they don't have any rules, but still.
But the "for the lulz" thing is a problem- but its depressing how much people overlook anon- they could be doing worse things.
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:08 pm
Captain_Shinzo Obscurus Sakakikala Anon is pretty amazing, take it as a compliment or an insult(like amazingly stupid?), its just amazing at how many of them there are and all, and how well organized they are. You guys remember how they attacked visa for cutting off donations to wikileaks(if a person used their visa credit/debit card to donate wikileaks, visa wouldn't, or something like that). anyway, this is anon's vid addressed to the church of Scientology. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCbKv9yiLiQCitizen Radio also interviewed someone involved with them. It was a really great interview. People don't seem to understand that Anonymous is not an organization in any sense of the word. There is no leader, no framework, just message boards. Someone comes up with a hare-brained scheme and someone else thinks it'll be funny and then it spreads. Usually by the time the moralfags have taken over, most of the anons have moved on to greener lulz. An example is how little Anonymous cares about Scientiology after Chanology happened. Another example is the DDoSing that went down after the Wikileaks stuff happened; after a few raids were accomplished the whole thing faded into the background. The hivemind has a very short attention span. If it doesn't get accomplished within a few days time then it won't because interest drops off continually from the moment the operation is declared. Usually anyone that claims to speak for Anonymous doesn't know what the ******** they're talking about and sometimes becomes a target themselves. Rules 1 & 2 are taken very seriously when it means there are lulz to be had from ruining someone.
The one problem that isn't being looked into is that people look at anonymous as one thing, a large majority of people with one mission: Lulz.
When, really, anonymous is just full of many members with people acting as committee members and having whoever wants to follow, follow.
Sure, some may not give a damn. However, some do. Some people give a damn just for the lulz. Point is, they do some pretty awesome stuff, moral good reasons or not.
Although, anonymous has died down lately. The hype has died down, making it hard to keep anonymous has something....well...something to be remembered. They have little members left and they really don't care anymore. That's why so many newfags and oldfags don't respect rules 1 & 2 anymore:
After moot and snacks attacking 4chan after hearing MGS4 was the last game with snake, everyone kinda just left for 420chan. Potheads ruled the lulz of internet just as it should be.
Not to mention if no one cares about anonymous anymore, they don't fear talking about 4chan or them specifically. Why? Because no one is targeted anymore, not even popular things such as flashes/movies that contain 4chan related content.
But yeah, anonymous is just a bag of random, doing things for either lulz or motives with a variety of people with in and doing things for different reasons.
Some blow up vans, others close pools due to AIDz.Anyone that posts under the name Anonymous on an anonymous message board is a member of Anonymous. You have a few dedicated people that want to do big things. How they do that is taking advantage of a hivemind. Take note that without the hivemind none of these grand schemes would ever come to fruition and few of them do even with the full support of thousands of anons. The numbers are what do it and there is no organizing Anonymous. There is only directing it. Anonymous hasn't died down. Jessi Slaughter, Puppy Pitcher, and a slew of others demonstrate that the hivemind still has sway when the cause is appealing. As I said before, anyone that posts on an anonymous message board is Anonymous. We are Legion, as the saying goes. That legion doesn't always agree within itself. If you think everyone has moved to 420chan then you haven't been on 4chan for a while. People don't respect rules 1 & 2 because it's very difficult to mount any kind of retaliation on every single person that breaks the rules. It's also not necessary. If every single person that broke the rules was raided then Anonymous would never do anything except raid people and that would get very boring. That's why only lolcows get raided. Doing it for the lulz garners a lot more anon support than doing it for any moral or political reasons. Sakakikala I never said they were an organization, i just said they were organized.(the interview i spoke of on citizen radio explains THAT in depth...) I mean you'd have to be organized to do some of the shizz they do. Why do people get so jumpy when people note they are organized when they do some of their things, such as the church of Scientology thing? Even my boyfriend freaked out going on about "We are everyone and we are no one" and some of their other stuff. Its a group nonetheless. Pure anarchy, but ya know what anarchy is- at least to some extent? democracy without leaders- everyone has a say. (Howard zinn said something along those lines) I don't really see any harm in calling them a group. Anyone can be anon- it's something you choose to do. And they all meet up in certain places(message boards)- like groups do. Now they don't have any rules, but still. But the "for the lulz" thing is a problem- but its depressing how much people overlook anon- they could be doing worse things. They aren't organized though. Someone shows up and says "Hey guys, do this!" and if it's funny enough people will do it. That doesn't require any kind of organization, hierarchy, rank, etc. It's no more organized than saying "I'm having a party Friday night, everyone is invited and I'd appreciate it if you came." Are the people that show up to your party organized? No, they just all responded to the same message. Anonymous is a group, but they aren't an organization. They are the collective id of the Internet. I only bring all of this up because it doesn't seem like very many people here have ever been to 4chan or been in the thick of Anon operations as they go down. You guys seem to accept the mainstream news view that Anonymous is some kind of organization devoted to some cause when it's not. It's just a bunch of people that use the same medium (the Internet) for entertainment and communication. There is no rhyme or reason and as such there are no spokespeople, no leaders, and no mercy. I very much suggest that anyone interested in understanding Anonymous become an anon for a while and just lurk. You really gain some insight into how these raids go down and why they don't last very long.
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:19 pm
I never said EVERYONE has moved to 420chan. It's just that a good amount of change has happened that would cause the flock of birds we consider anonymous to leave. Sure, they still exist along with the legion, but I wont get carried away as to say they are as active or popular as they used to be. It would be best to say that they are currently dormant in some areas.
My point still stands that those sections of anonymous are still wide enough for multiple events. Not everyone will do something for a cause, but some will. That's why a lot of people give anonymous praise. Members of anonymous will support many different causes. They are a hive with versatile worker bees.
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:53 pm
Captain_Shinzo I never said EVERYONE has moved to 420chan. It's just that a good amount of change has happened that would cause the flock of birds we consider anonymous to leave. Sure, they still exist along with the legion, but I wont get carried away as to say they are as active or popular as they used to be. It would be best to say that they are currently dormant in some areas.
My point still stands that those sections of anonymous are still wide enough for multiple events. Not everyone will do something for a cause, but some will. That's why a lot of people give anonymous praise. Members of anonymous will support many different causes. They are a hive with versatile worker bees. Essentially. I'm just trying to make it clear that the media perception of Anonymous as some huge hacker activist group is ridiculous. Anonymous is a bunch of basement-dwellers with a lot of free time.
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:10 pm
Obscurus Captain_Shinzo I never said EVERYONE has moved to 420chan. It's just that a good amount of change has happened that would cause the flock of birds we consider anonymous to leave. Sure, they still exist along with the legion, but I wont get carried away as to say they are as active or popular as they used to be. It would be best to say that they are currently dormant in some areas.
My point still stands that those sections of anonymous are still wide enough for multiple events. Not everyone will do something for a cause, but some will. That's why a lot of people give anonymous praise. Members of anonymous will support many different causes. They are a hive with versatile worker bees. Essentially. I'm just trying to make it clear that the media perception of Anonymous as some huge hacker activist group is ridiculous. Anonymous is a bunch of basement-dwellers with a lot of free time.
The media had no idea what anonymous was when making that news report, though.
Not to mention they were only exaggerating for more viewers.
But all they did was cause a mass amount of lulz for anonymous so great that it almost became historically known.
On a side note, I'm a meme. lol
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:51 pm
Captain_Shinzo Obscurus Captain_Shinzo I never said EVERYONE has moved to 420chan. It's just that a good amount of change has happened that would cause the flock of birds we consider anonymous to leave. Sure, they still exist along with the legion, but I wont get carried away as to say they are as active or popular as they used to be. It would be best to say that they are currently dormant in some areas.
My point still stands that those sections of anonymous are still wide enough for multiple events. Not everyone will do something for a cause, but some will. That's why a lot of people give anonymous praise. Members of anonymous will support many different causes. They are a hive with versatile worker bees. Essentially. I'm just trying to make it clear that the media perception of Anonymous as some huge hacker activist group is ridiculous. Anonymous is a bunch of basement-dwellers with a lot of free time.
The media had no idea what anonymous was when making that news report, though.
Not to mention they were only exaggerating for more viewers.
But all they did was cause a mass amount of lulz for anonymous so great that it almost became historically known.
On a side note, I'm a meme. lolI was just reading earlier how Anonymous struck back after the FBI started hunting them for the Wikileaks-related DDoSing http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/107596-Anonymous-Strikes-Back-Hacks-Internet-Security-Firmhttp://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/107699-Anonymous-Target-Planned-to-Take-Down-WikiLeaksThey really are Internet Superheroes. And forced meme is forced, Milhouse is not a meme, etc.
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:21 pm
Official Sasuke Uchiha ? 19/5/13 (or 5/19/13 if you are American) Expect Us! Am I the only one seeing this EVERYWHERE they ******** go? Bus stops, toilets, sidewalks, the internet itself seems to have this message everywhere! I've even seen it carved into a ******** tree outside of my house, in school grounds in the dirt... Even at my father's work on a construction site! Discuss the possible meaning of this message, could it be a message Aliens are coming? Will they bring the end of the world? I'm 12 and what is this I don't even, this is seriously stressing me out! Anyone out there can enlighten me with the true? I don't see it around where I live,or anything mainstream related.Though it sounds pretty funny lol Its not like aliens wrote that.
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:25 pm
buffer920 dont stress , i havnt seen any of that where i live , its probly just a bunch of kids playing a joke or somebody who suffers from extreme paranoia and if those number do mean something it could be anything , like an aniversy or a marriage date or some very religous people This and my earlier comment
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 4:54 am
Obscurus Captain_Shinzo Obscurus Sakakikala Anon is pretty amazing, take it as a compliment or an insult(like amazingly stupid?), its just amazing at how many of them there are and all, and how well organized they are. You guys remember how they attacked visa for cutting off donations to wikileaks(if a person used their visa credit/debit card to donate wikileaks, visa wouldn't, or something like that). anyway, this is anon's vid addressed to the church of Scientology. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCbKv9yiLiQCitizen Radio also interviewed someone involved with them. It was a really great interview. People don't seem to understand that Anonymous is not an organization in any sense of the word. There is no leader, no framework, just message boards. Someone comes up with a hare-brained scheme and someone else thinks it'll be funny and then it spreads. Usually by the time the moralfags have taken over, most of the anons have moved on to greener lulz. An example is how little Anonymous cares about Scientiology after Chanology happened. Another example is the DDoSing that went down after the Wikileaks stuff happened; after a few raids were accomplished the whole thing faded into the background. The hivemind has a very short attention span. If it doesn't get accomplished within a few days time then it won't because interest drops off continually from the moment the operation is declared. Usually anyone that claims to speak for Anonymous doesn't know what the ******** they're talking about and sometimes becomes a target themselves. Rules 1 & 2 are taken very seriously when it means there are lulz to be had from ruining someone.
The one problem that isn't being looked into is that people look at anonymous as one thing, a large majority of people with one mission: Lulz.
When, really, anonymous is just full of many members with people acting as committee members and having whoever wants to follow, follow.
Sure, some may not give a damn. However, some do. Some people give a damn just for the lulz. Point is, they do some pretty awesome stuff, moral good reasons or not.
Although, anonymous has died down lately. The hype has died down, making it hard to keep anonymous has something....well...something to be remembered. They have little members left and they really don't care anymore. That's why so many newfags and oldfags don't respect rules 1 & 2 anymore:
After moot and snacks attacking 4chan after hearing MGS4 was the last game with snake, everyone kinda just left for 420chan. Potheads ruled the lulz of internet just as it should be.
Not to mention if no one cares about anonymous anymore, they don't fear talking about 4chan or them specifically. Why? Because no one is targeted anymore, not even popular things such as flashes/movies that contain 4chan related content.
But yeah, anonymous is just a bag of random, doing things for either lulz or motives with a variety of people with in and doing things for different reasons.
Some blow up vans, others close pools due to AIDz.Anyone that posts under the name Anonymous on an anonymous message board is a member of Anonymous. You have a few dedicated people that want to do big things. How they do that is taking advantage of a hivemind. Take note that without the hivemind none of these grand schemes would ever come to fruition and few of them do even with the full support of thousands of anons. The numbers are what do it and there is no organizing Anonymous. There is only directing it. Anonymous hasn't died down. Jessi Slaughter, Puppy Pitcher, and a slew of others demonstrate that the hivemind still has sway when the cause is appealing. As I said before, anyone that posts on an anonymous message board is Anonymous. We are Legion, as the saying goes. That legion doesn't always agree within itself. If you think everyone has moved to 420chan then you haven't been on 4chan for a while. People don't respect rules 1 & 2 because it's very difficult to mount any kind of retaliation on every single person that breaks the rules. It's also not necessary. If every single person that broke the rules was raided then Anonymous would never do anything except raid people and that would get very boring. That's why only lolcows get raided. Doing it for the lulz garners a lot more anon support than doing it for any moral or political reasons. Sakakikala I never said they were an organization, i just said they were organized.(the interview i spoke of on citizen radio explains THAT in depth...) I mean you'd have to be organized to do some of the shizz they do. Why do people get so jumpy when people note they are organized when they do some of their things, such as the church of Scientology thing? Even my boyfriend freaked out going on about "We are everyone and we are no one" and some of their other stuff. Its a group nonetheless. Pure anarchy, but ya know what anarchy is- at least to some extent? democracy without leaders- everyone has a say. (Howard zinn said something along those lines) I don't really see any harm in calling them a group. Anyone can be anon- it's something you choose to do. And they all meet up in certain places(message boards)- like groups do. Now they don't have any rules, but still. But the "for the lulz" thing is a problem- but its depressing how much people overlook anon- they could be doing worse things. They aren't organized though. Someone shows up and says "Hey guys, do this!" and if it's funny enough people will do it. That doesn't require any kind of organization, hierarchy, rank, etc. It's no more organized than saying "I'm having a party Friday night, everyone is invited and I'd appreciate it if you came." Are the people that show up to your party organized? No, they just all responded to the same message. Anonymous is a group, but they aren't an organization. They are the collective id of the Internet. I only bring all of this up because it doesn't seem like very many people here have ever been to 4chan or been in the thick of Anon operations as they go down. You guys seem to accept the mainstream news view that Anonymous is some kind of organization devoted to some cause when it's not. It's just a bunch of people that use the same medium (the Internet) for entertainment and communication. There is no rhyme or reason and as such there are no spokespeople, no leaders, and no mercy. I very much suggest that anyone interested in understanding Anonymous become an anon for a while and just lurk. You really gain some insight into how these raids go down and why they don't last very long. Hey thanks, i hadn't thought of it as a hive mentality, but yeah, i went on 4chan once and there was so much nudity, i was like really? this is what they do all day? and hadn't gone back, pretty disgusted, lol. that aside, my boyfriend and a friend of mine spend a lot of time on there, but i guess they're just horrible explain. xD Simply saying that anon is "everyone but no one" doesn't really help me understand.*I'm glaring at my boyfriend right now, mentally. when we go out tomorrow I'll make a point to stare at him evilly. smile
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:07 am
Sakakikala they could be doing worse things.
Like stalking people and torturing little girls? Oh wait, they already do that. Anon is a bunch of idiots. Even people who may once have been really intelligent turn into mush-brains when they start reading 4chan all day and playing anonymous games.
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:58 pm
Sakakikala Obscurus Captain_Shinzo Obscurus Sakakikala Anon is pretty amazing, take it as a compliment or an insult(like amazingly stupid?), its just amazing at how many of them there are and all, and how well organized they are. You guys remember how they attacked visa for cutting off donations to wikileaks(if a person used their visa credit/debit card to donate wikileaks, visa wouldn't, or something like that). anyway, this is anon's vid addressed to the church of Scientology. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCbKv9yiLiQCitizen Radio also interviewed someone involved with them. It was a really great interview. People don't seem to understand that Anonymous is not an organization in any sense of the word. There is no leader, no framework, just message boards. Someone comes up with a hare-brained scheme and someone else thinks it'll be funny and then it spreads. Usually by the time the moralfags have taken over, most of the anons have moved on to greener lulz. An example is how little Anonymous cares about Scientiology after Chanology happened. Another example is the DDoSing that went down after the Wikileaks stuff happened; after a few raids were accomplished the whole thing faded into the background. The hivemind has a very short attention span. If it doesn't get accomplished within a few days time then it won't because interest drops off continually from the moment the operation is declared. Usually anyone that claims to speak for Anonymous doesn't know what the ******** they're talking about and sometimes becomes a target themselves. Rules 1 & 2 are taken very seriously when it means there are lulz to be had from ruining someone.
The one problem that isn't being looked into is that people look at anonymous as one thing, a large majority of people with one mission: Lulz.
When, really, anonymous is just full of many members with people acting as committee members and having whoever wants to follow, follow.
Sure, some may not give a damn. However, some do. Some people give a damn just for the lulz. Point is, they do some pretty awesome stuff, moral good reasons or not.
Although, anonymous has died down lately. The hype has died down, making it hard to keep anonymous has something....well...something to be remembered. They have little members left and they really don't care anymore. That's why so many newfags and oldfags don't respect rules 1 & 2 anymore:
After moot and snacks attacking 4chan after hearing MGS4 was the last game with snake, everyone kinda just left for 420chan. Potheads ruled the lulz of internet just as it should be.
Not to mention if no one cares about anonymous anymore, they don't fear talking about 4chan or them specifically. Why? Because no one is targeted anymore, not even popular things such as flashes/movies that contain 4chan related content.
But yeah, anonymous is just a bag of random, doing things for either lulz or motives with a variety of people with in and doing things for different reasons.
Some blow up vans, others close pools due to AIDz.Anyone that posts under the name Anonymous on an anonymous message board is a member of Anonymous. You have a few dedicated people that want to do big things. How they do that is taking advantage of a hivemind. Take note that without the hivemind none of these grand schemes would ever come to fruition and few of them do even with the full support of thousands of anons. The numbers are what do it and there is no organizing Anonymous. There is only directing it. Anonymous hasn't died down. Jessi Slaughter, Puppy Pitcher, and a slew of others demonstrate that the hivemind still has sway when the cause is appealing. As I said before, anyone that posts on an anonymous message board is Anonymous. We are Legion, as the saying goes. That legion doesn't always agree within itself. If you think everyone has moved to 420chan then you haven't been on 4chan for a while. People don't respect rules 1 & 2 because it's very difficult to mount any kind of retaliation on every single person that breaks the rules. It's also not necessary. If every single person that broke the rules was raided then Anonymous would never do anything except raid people and that would get very boring. That's why only lolcows get raided. Doing it for the lulz garners a lot more anon support than doing it for any moral or political reasons. Sakakikala I never said they were an organization, i just said they were organized.(the interview i spoke of on citizen radio explains THAT in depth...) I mean you'd have to be organized to do some of the shizz they do. Why do people get so jumpy when people note they are organized when they do some of their things, such as the church of Scientology thing? Even my boyfriend freaked out going on about "We are everyone and we are no one" and some of their other stuff. Its a group nonetheless. Pure anarchy, but ya know what anarchy is- at least to some extent? democracy without leaders- everyone has a say. (Howard zinn said something along those lines) I don't really see any harm in calling them a group. Anyone can be anon- it's something you choose to do. And they all meet up in certain places(message boards)- like groups do. Now they don't have any rules, but still. But the "for the lulz" thing is a problem- but its depressing how much people overlook anon- they could be doing worse things. They aren't organized though. Someone shows up and says "Hey guys, do this!" and if it's funny enough people will do it. That doesn't require any kind of organization, hierarchy, rank, etc. It's no more organized than saying "I'm having a party Friday night, everyone is invited and I'd appreciate it if you came." Are the people that show up to your party organized? No, they just all responded to the same message. Anonymous is a group, but they aren't an organization. They are the collective id of the Internet. I only bring all of this up because it doesn't seem like very many people here have ever been to 4chan or been in the thick of Anon operations as they go down. You guys seem to accept the mainstream news view that Anonymous is some kind of organization devoted to some cause when it's not. It's just a bunch of people that use the same medium (the Internet) for entertainment and communication. There is no rhyme or reason and as such there are no spokespeople, no leaders, and no mercy. I very much suggest that anyone interested in understanding Anonymous become an anon for a while and just lurk. You really gain some insight into how these raids go down and why they don't last very long. Hey thanks, i hadn't thought of it as a hive mentality, but yeah, i went on 4chan once and there was so much nudity, i was like really? this is what they do all day? and hadn't gone back, pretty disgusted, lol. that aside, my boyfriend and a friend of mine spend a lot of time on there, but i guess they're just horrible explain. xD Simply saying that anon is "everyone but no one" doesn't really help me understand.*I'm glaring at my boyfriend right now, mentally. when we go out tomorrow I'll make a point to stare at him evilly. smile I tend to think that if someone can't tolerate that level of depravity then they can't really understand the Hivemind. Vanilla eXee Sakakikala they could be doing worse things.
Like stalking people and torturing little girls? Oh wait, they already do that. Anon is a bunch of idiots. Even people who may once have been really intelligent turn into mush-brains when they start reading 4chan all day and playing anonymous games.In their defense, Jessi Slaughter did the worst possible thing a person can do when they're being bullied: She taunted the bullies. Then she cried foul when they struck back in force. A bunch of idiots wouldn't be able to pull off the things that they pull off. I think it would be better to describe them as people that, being anonymous, are no longer inhibited by identity. They are free to essentially do what they want and express themselves however they want. No longer bound by social conventions they can show their true selves. A lot of the time, the true self of any particular human being is an ugly thing. Believe me though, anonymity is liberating.
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:20 pm
Obscurus Captain_Shinzo Obscurus Captain_Shinzo I never said EVERYONE has moved to 420chan. It's just that a good amount of change has happened that would cause the flock of birds we consider anonymous to leave. Sure, they still exist along with the legion, but I wont get carried away as to say they are as active or popular as they used to be. It would be best to say that they are currently dormant in some areas.
My point still stands that those sections of anonymous are still wide enough for multiple events. Not everyone will do something for a cause, but some will. That's why a lot of people give anonymous praise. Members of anonymous will support many different causes. They are a hive with versatile worker bees. Essentially. I'm just trying to make it clear that the media perception of Anonymous as some huge hacker activist group is ridiculous. Anonymous is a bunch of basement-dwellers with a lot of free time.
The media had no idea what anonymous was when making that news report, though.
Not to mention they were only exaggerating for more viewers.
But all they did was cause a mass amount of lulz for anonymous so great that it almost became historically known.
On a side note, I'm a meme. lolI was just reading earlier how Anonymous struck back after the FBI started hunting them for the Wikileaks-related DDoSing http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/107596-Anonymous-Strikes-Back-Hacks-Internet-Security-Firmhttp://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/107699-Anonymous-Target-Planned-to-Take-Down-WikiLeaksThey really are Internet Superheroes. And forced meme is forced, Milhouse is not a meme, etc.
and yes, I know about Milhouse. =w=
I was forced as a meme from my friend years ago who turned me into a motivational poster. It caught on, apparently. Although, like stare dad, I was forgotten after a few laughs and edits.
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:18 am
Captain_Shinzo Obscurus Captain_Shinzo Obscurus Captain_Shinzo I never said EVERYONE has moved to 420chan. It's just that a good amount of change has happened that would cause the flock of birds we consider anonymous to leave. Sure, they still exist along with the legion, but I wont get carried away as to say they are as active or popular as they used to be. It would be best to say that they are currently dormant in some areas.
My point still stands that those sections of anonymous are still wide enough for multiple events. Not everyone will do something for a cause, but some will. That's why a lot of people give anonymous praise. Members of anonymous will support many different causes. They are a hive with versatile worker bees. Essentially. I'm just trying to make it clear that the media perception of Anonymous as some huge hacker activist group is ridiculous. Anonymous is a bunch of basement-dwellers with a lot of free time.
The media had no idea what anonymous was when making that news report, though.
Not to mention they were only exaggerating for more viewers.
But all they did was cause a mass amount of lulz for anonymous so great that it almost became historically known.
On a side note, I'm a meme. lolI was just reading earlier how Anonymous struck back after the FBI started hunting them for the Wikileaks-related DDoSing http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/107596-Anonymous-Strikes-Back-Hacks-Internet-Security-Firmhttp://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/107699-Anonymous-Target-Planned-to-Take-Down-WikiLeaksThey really are Internet Superheroes. And forced meme is forced, Milhouse is not a meme, etc.
and yes, I know about Milhouse. =w=
I was forced as a meme from my friend years ago who turned me into a motivational poster. It caught on, apparently. Although, like stare dad, I was forgotten after a few laughs and edits.At least you were one of the lucky ones then, allowed to die in peace. Not like Advice Dog.
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