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 Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:55 pm
Shuyajin Does anyone have reason to believe that this is a hoax intended to cause a panic? If it was a hoax, it would be fake. Problem is, animals are dieing in a lot of areas. The fact that suddenly many animal corpses show up in areas with great differences between seem very strange. If it was set up, it would need a group of people to work together and secludely do it. If that was the case, they would have been caught.
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:01 pm
Deluxe yaybunny Some kind of bio gas is still plausible if you think about how where they spray could be much more concentrated in one area, making those within the vicinity inhale toxins at deadly levels, and the rest only a bit sickly. By the way I saw 2 chem trails in the shape of Xs stacked on top of eachother as the sun was setting a few minutes ago o__0 AS WELL AS these strange formations that looked like someone had taken their fists and punched the sky earlier.... My little sister, who just turned 10 today, was commenting on how unusual it was... *light bulb* When kids are noticing (she doesn't know about chem trails yet), ya can't be imagining this stuff! If it was bio gas, it would have to be sprayed in concentration in the air to kill the birds. Not to mention it could easily be traced within the birds from their organs and contact with their feathers. As for the fish, it would be greatly impossible. Gas can't mix with a median unless some kind of change in the property of both medians which is impossible because of the size of the river. Not to mention the entire river was infected, meaning something had to be pouring a lot in to spread thoroughly through the whole river.
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:23 pm
I still need an explanation for the fog I was in that caused so much irritation to my throat and lungs..... I also immediately started to get cramps...and then I freaked out and thought I was going to faint because I thought I had been severely poisoned 0___0 (turned out to be my period, though)
I guess it comes down to solving the mystery of that before I can accept any other scenarios.
I also know for a fact that it was exactly then that the poles were starting to shift, because the next day they shut down the airport....
Do you think that can be induced or is it all mother nature?
I don't know what to believe when secret societies and the government are so capable of manipulating their environment and other people. I don't want to overestimate, but nothing could be worse than underestimating.
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:28 pm
Deluxe yaybunny Shuyajin Does anyone have reason to believe that this is a hoax intended to cause a panic? It's not working then... cuz nobody seems to be panicking.... most barely seem to notice or care...
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:54 pm
Deluxe yaybunny I still need an explanation for the fog I was in that caused so much irritation to my throat and lungs..... I also immediately started to get cramps...and then I freaked out and thought I was going to faint because I thought I had been severely poisoned 0___0 (turned out to be my period, though) I guess it comes down to solving the mystery of that before I can accept any other scenarios. I also know for a fact that it was exactly then that the poles were starting to shift, because the next day they shut down the airport.... Do you think that can be induced or is it all mother nature? I don't know what to believe when secret societies and the government are so capable of manipulating their environment and other people. I don't want to overestimate, but nothing could be worse than underestimating.
The poles shifting wouldn't explain why the birds, bees, bats, and fish died. I wouldn't think poles shifting would do that. Plus, if the poles shifted, all electronics would have switch positive and negatives meaning we would not have electronics.
I couldn't explain the fog, doesn't make sense. However, if it was poision, it wouldn't be fog. Gas doesn't work too much in clouds. Reason why they use poison chambers to concentrate the gas more to take effect. If the area it's in is too big, it wouldn't work to their advantage. It is a gas after all. If they wanted to get that cloud effect you spoke of, it would take A LOT of gas, war like gas. That would have ended you.
Like I said, I'm still going with my idea of the pesticides and other chemicals recently be added to farms.
The last thing to add is that the only way it'd be possible for the government to do that is actually step in line and spread a gas, which would involve enough to kill everyone. That didn't happen, though. Plus, why kill animals? The only thing that would do is harm economy and the country.
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:39 pm
My first thought was aliens. But that's always my first thought and I have no proof, so. Onto more serious thoughts.
I've read a lot that things like this happen all the time, and I'm inclined to believe that more than a lot of the other theories out there. Especially the 2012 bullshit. It's really getting old. Birds die, fish die. From what I've seen on the news and read, a lot of the birds died from an impact of some sort. No signs of disease, but plenty of broken bones. Fish live in the water. Some of them can be very delicate, and small changes can kill them off. I am a fish geek, so the story they're giving that it's probably a rush of low oxygen water that is killing them is extremely plausible in my mind.
Not everything is a conspiracy.
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:48 pm
Vanilla eXee
My first thought was aliens. But that's always my first thought and I have no proof, so. Onto more serious thoughts.
I've read a lot that things like this happen all the time, and I'm inclined to believe that more than a lot of the other theories out there. Especially the 2012 bullshit. It's really getting old. Birds die, fish die. From what I've seen on the news and read, a lot of the birds died from an impact of some sort. No signs of disease, but plenty of broken bones. Fish live in the water. Some of them can be very delicate, and small changes can kill them off. I am a fish geek, so the story they're giving that it's probably a rush of low oxygen water that is killing them is extremely plausible in my mind.
Not everything is a conspiracy.
You have a point. However, that doesn't explain the other species who are also dieing like the birds, bees, and bats. It has to be something polluting the food and other things around. It could be something in the air, but that wouldn't explain the fish. Reason why I said it has to do with something about the farm, or something like that.
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:20 pm
Captain_Shinzo Deluxe yaybunny I still need an explanation for the fog I was in that caused so much irritation to my throat and lungs..... I also immediately started to get cramps...and then I freaked out and thought I was going to faint because I thought I had been severely poisoned 0___0 (turned out to be my period, though) I guess it comes down to solving the mystery of that before I can accept any other scenarios. I also know for a fact that it was exactly then that the poles were starting to shift, because the next day they shut down the airport.... Do you think that can be induced or is it all mother nature? I don't know what to believe when secret societies and the government are so capable of manipulating their environment and other people. I don't want to overestimate, but nothing could be worse than underestimating.
The poles shifting wouldn't explain why the birds, bees, bats, and fish died. I wouldn't think poles shifting would do that. Plus, if the poles shifted, all electronics would have switch positive and negatives meaning we would not have electronics.
I couldn't explain the fog, doesn't make sense. However, if it was poision, it wouldn't be fog. Gas doesn't work too much in clouds. Reason why they use poison chambers to concentrate the gas more to take effect. If the area it's in is too big, it wouldn't work to their advantage. It is a gas after all. If they wanted to get that cloud effect you spoke of, it would take A LOT of gas, war like gas. That would have ended you.
Like I said, I'm still going with my idea of the pesticides and other chemicals recently be added to farms.
The last thing to add is that the only way it'd be possible for the government to do that is actually step in line and spread a gas, which would involve enough to kill everyone. That didn't happen, though. Plus, why kill animals? The only thing that would do is harm economy and the country. Actually, the movement of the poles does indeed affect birds.
See here and skip to 3:04.
And as I stated earlier, it also affected Tampa airport.
Edit: Nevermind, apparently it affects fish too.
Quote: Inbuilt navigation systems in birds and fish is believed to be affected by magnetism. Scientists have said the Magnetic North Pole is shifting at an average of around 25 miles a year. With birds and fish relying on it to travel to breeding grounds and warmed climes, there are fears that the shifting pole could be confusing the animals which means they do not migrate in time to avoid cold weather. Tests are being carried out on the dead birds and fish, but results are not expected for several weeks.
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:26 pm
Vanilla eXee I've read a lot that things like this happen all the time, and I'm inclined to believe that more than a lot of the other theories out there. But this doesn't happen all the time. There are many anomalies at play that make it a very serious issue. The pole shift that happened in my city supposedly occurs once every 28,000 years -____-
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:45 pm
Also important to remember is the recent staged death of a US official...
http://nachopolitico.com/tag/phosgene-gas/
He was a "Special Assistant to the Acting Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for Installations, Logistics and Environment"
Hmmm....airforce, logistics, and environment? Too coincidental?
And further...
"Wheeler’s military career included writing one of the most important manuals on the effectiveness of biological and chemical weapons which led to his being hired in 2009 as a consultant to the Mitre Corporation, whose aviation system development department, the GRU reports, is at the forefront of creating the computer command and control systems used by the US Air Force in their fleet of aerial spraying planes."
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:56 pm
X Sai Kaitou Captain_Shinzo Deluxe yaybunny I still need an explanation for the fog I was in that caused so much irritation to my throat and lungs..... I also immediately started to get cramps...and then I freaked out and thought I was going to faint because I thought I had been severely poisoned 0___0 (turned out to be my period, though) I guess it comes down to solving the mystery of that before I can accept any other scenarios. I also know for a fact that it was exactly then that the poles were starting to shift, because the next day they shut down the airport.... Do you think that can be induced or is it all mother nature? I don't know what to believe when secret societies and the government are so capable of manipulating their environment and other people. I don't want to overestimate, but nothing could be worse than underestimating.
The poles shifting wouldn't explain why the birds, bees, bats, and fish died. I wouldn't think poles shifting would do that. Plus, if the poles shifted, all electronics would have switch positive and negatives meaning we would not have electronics.
I couldn't explain the fog, doesn't make sense. However, if it was poision, it wouldn't be fog. Gas doesn't work too much in clouds. Reason why they use poison chambers to concentrate the gas more to take effect. If the area it's in is too big, it wouldn't work to their advantage. It is a gas after all. If they wanted to get that cloud effect you spoke of, it would take A LOT of gas, war like gas. That would have ended you.
Like I said, I'm still going with my idea of the pesticides and other chemicals recently be added to farms.
The last thing to add is that the only way it'd be possible for the government to do that is actually step in line and spread a gas, which would involve enough to kill everyone. That didn't happen, though. Plus, why kill animals? The only thing that would do is harm economy and the country. Actually, the movement of the poles does indeed affect birds.
See here and skip to 3:04.
And as I stated earlier, it also affected Tampa airport.
Edit: Nevermind, apparently it affects fish too.
Quote: Inbuilt navigation systems in birds and fish is believed to be affected by magnetism. Scientists have said the Magnetic North Pole is shifting at an average of around 25 miles a year. With birds and fish relying on it to travel to breeding grounds and warmed climes, there are fears that the shifting pole could be confusing the animals which means they do not migrate in time to avoid cold weather. Tests are being carried out on the dead birds and fish, but results are not expected for several weeks. Huh....who would have thought...
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:02 pm
@Sai Kaitou: I really have no idea what could be causing it. I think some possibilities are more likely than others but I think that everyone involved in investigating this is about ready to just sweep it under the rug.
@Captain Shinzo: Would you care to divulge any specifics on your corn pesticide theory? Specific corn types or pesticides, etc.?
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:09 am
My first thought when I heard about it was chemtrails. That something lethal was in them or they had a bad reaction to it.
Since, when I saw a video awhile back about them, someone had used a microscope to see what exactly was being sprayed in it. They were complaining about finding this silvery/glittery substance on things out side and had decided to see what it was.
I should really find that video and post it.
But this is still very disturbing, surprising there's not that many people panicing.
On another site someone explained that it was a spiritual message since the animals that were dying were also symbols of a couple of things in Native American folklore/spiritual beliefs. But I'm not sure about that. This seems odd, and yeah we know that mass die-offs have happened before in the past but still.
Then there was the Earthquake in Indiana awhile ago. That was probably HAARP, though.
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:59 am
Perhaps a new round of flu? Woohoo forced inoculations! How long before humans show symptoms of flu? What's the incubation time?
(Found the answer it can be as long as 16 days so let's watch and see)
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:51 am
Obscurus @Sai Kaitou: I really have no idea what could be causing it. I think some possibilities are more likely than others but I think that everyone involved in investigating this is about ready to just sweep it under the rug. @Captain Shinzo: Would you care to divulge any specifics on your corn pesticide theory? Specific corn types or pesticides, etc.? Well, it is known that throughout those areas, there are large farms of all varieties every which way. People call it the corn crop theory since that's the crops closest. With new years ending, the weather got cold extremely fast. Anyway, the random weather changing was hard for everyone to decide what to do. Usually, the farmers put in new chemicals and pesticides, even test out pesticides. What farmers didn't count on was the animals getting out and about kinda early. When animals start getting into newly sprayed food, it can get bad. Birds wont even realize it until it kicks in later. Then BAM, out cold and for good. That's if the birds all gathered around and fed, then left together too. It makes sense considering the season is changing, so birds are flying together lately. But the pesticides could easily effect other animals, seeping into their habitat and effecting the nearby food. Although, that's just an idea. Other theories would be fireworks. We were shooting off fireworks for a couple days and animals being out would explain that. Doesn't explain the fish, however. My greatest guess would either be the first or or the possible methane deposits around there lately. Methane can really screw with birds and fish, even bees and bats. This would probably be the most possible idea.
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