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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:38 am
An exceptionally nifty idea, CrimsonFox. :nod: I'm also hoping to pass my BoS to my children someday, so it had better be in respectable and readable condition when it gets to them. That's part of the reason that I want to back it up on harddrive AND keep physical papers. Oh, and also to floppy disk. Some things are just too precious to leave in one form.
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 2:43 pm
EladrinStarmist An exceptionally nifty idea, CrimsonFox. :nod: I'm also hoping to pass my BoS to my children someday, so it had better be in respectable and readable condition when it gets to them. That's part of the reason that I want to back it up on harddrive AND keep physical papers. Oh, and also to floppy disk. Some things are just too precious to leave in one form. well i dont want that for my children, if they are to follow my path, they will have to do it of their own accord, as it is a journey of learning. One cannot just have it passed down all teh knowledge and understand what it all means, they have to earn it through toil and trailblazing.
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:08 am
But i am fairly sure that there is a book of shadows for witchcraft along with Satanism, correct?
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:20 pm
I love your thread, it's very informative for beginners of the craft and the curious, yet not misleading. You definitly know your craft. Nice work sister. Blessed Be.
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:44 am
I'm such a terrible person. I don't keep a proper book of shadows :/
I've got an online magickal journal of sorts, a rough workbook for fleshing out ideas, a notebook to give commentary on systems I'm working on, and a mini-notepad for keeping things like ideas for rituals, basic circle-casting, banishing instructions, and such. I guess collectively they could be considered a Book of Shadows, but hey. XD
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:52 pm
The closest thing I have to a book of shadows is my tarot journal. In it I write my reflections on the cards, things we talk about during the discussion group meetings, and my readings. I also have a few sheets with correspondences between Tarot, astrology, alchemy, and hebrew letters.
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 6:13 pm
It's a good a place to start as any. smile
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 10:23 am
Right now, I'm in the middle of a huge project. I'm making an "Angelic Book". Some of you may know what I'm talking about.
The book is based around the idea that angels are not summoned from "somewhere out there", they actually live IN their seals. A properly made and consecrated book actually becomes a living entity, unique completely to itself. These are the kind of books that you hear about from the Burning Times, the books that they claim let out infernal shrieks as they were burned. It's also where common Hollywood references to magician's spellbooks having a mind of their own (think of Fantasia!).
So yes... it is an enormous project. But of course it doesn't need to be reserved only for angels! You could make a book for demons, elementals... oh the many vast wonders of magick!
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 8:51 pm
Wow. Where did you learn all this stuff?
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 11:04 pm
Who, me?? *looks around* Well, I read a lot of books. I love books in fact. The Angelic Book is something I first learned about in one of my other books "The Secrets of the Magickal Grimoires". Great book by the way! The basic procedure of making one is detailed. The rest has all come from my imagination, as far as the exact design goes that is. I had to order an entire cowhide! *slaps knee*
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:57 am
Well, I cannot really rely on that. This whole focus on material components is really creepy, somehow. I mean, I can understand that it looks nice and shiny, and that it gives you something to do for the craft when you feel bored. But I do not know if this is is some kind of disease in germany, but the occult comunity seems to evolve in a kind of maniacs built on carrying books almost as heavy as themselfs. I will not say anything against it, but you have to understand that this kind of behaviour is very not understandable to a guy who is focused to use material components as little as possible. I mean, the only thing I need for my craft are my hands, a knife, my pipe and a lighter...
Soooo.... Loagaeth....... I am not realöly sure what these burning times are, but binding a couple of entities into a book...... You sure are very brave.... By the way, how well does that go with the wiccan Rede?
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:15 am
Haha... no no. Angels are never bound, they come willingly. Someone could get themselves into quite a predicament if they tried to force an angel into a book. smile It's a diplomatic thing. The angels are asked to appear, but it is never that simple. It's not just calling the being up to do your work and then sending them away, the lines are opened both ways. The angels can also intervene and talk to you when they please as well.
As far as the Wiccan Rede goes, I'm not really Wiccan, sooo... But, I can tell you that one is told never to disrespect any spirit, whether it is an angel or a demon or anything else. It's best never to try forcing a spirit to do something it doesn't want to do.
Also, just because an angel's seal is in the book doesn't mean it has to cooperate. If it truly doesn't like the person or what they are doing, it doesn't have to show up, and if it does show up, it doesn't have to make its presence known OR grant the person's requests. But many times, the spirit agrees to help, for one reason or another.
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:21 pm
Loagaeth Haha... no no. Angels are never bound, they come willingly. Someone could get themselves into quite a predicament if they tried to force an angel into a book. smile It's a diplomatic thing. The angels are asked to appear, but it is never that simple. It's not just calling the being up to do your work and then sending them away, the lines are opened both ways. The angels can also intervene and talk to you when they please as well. As far as the Wiccan Rede goes, I'm not really Wiccan, sooo... But, I can tell you that one is told never to disrespect any spirit, whether it is an angel or a demon or anything else. It's best never to try forcing a spirit to do something it doesn't want to do. Also, just because an angel's seal is in the book doesn't mean it has to cooperate. If it truly doesn't like the person or what they are doing, it doesn't have to show up, and if it does show up, it doesn't have to make its presence known OR grant the person's requests. But many times, the spirit agrees to help, for one reason or another.
I love this idea so much I'm going to marry it. <3
So, how would you define an angel? Is the angel in one seal in an Angelic Book the same one in the same seal in a different Angelic Book?
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:28 pm
Mitsh Loagaeth Haha... no no. Angels are never bound, they come willingly. Someone could get themselves into quite a predicament if they tried to force an angel into a book. smile It's a diplomatic thing. The angels are asked to appear, but it is never that simple. It's not just calling the being up to do your work and then sending them away, the lines are opened both ways. The angels can also intervene and talk to you when they please as well. As far as the Wiccan Rede goes, I'm not really Wiccan, sooo... But, I can tell you that one is told never to disrespect any spirit, whether it is an angel or a demon or anything else. It's best never to try forcing a spirit to do something it doesn't want to do. Also, just because an angel's seal is in the book doesn't mean it has to cooperate. If it truly doesn't like the person or what they are doing, it doesn't have to show up, and if it does show up, it doesn't have to make its presence known OR grant the person's requests. But many times, the spirit agrees to help, for one reason or another.
I love this idea so much I'm going to marry it. <3
So, how would you define an angel? Is the angel in one seal in an Angelic Book the same one in the same seal in a different Angelic Book?Ahhhh, oh man. An angel is such a hard thing to define. I would have to say that some more common angels may bear the same resemblances to ones in other books just because they are a well known being, and yet others some may never have heard of. The angel I talk to has a name which is strikingly similar to the name of an enochian angel, and yet they are not the same creature. It's crazy how many spirits' names differ in just one letter. Some would say that they are the same angel if their names are so similar, and that is sometimes true. But, sometimes it apparantly isn't. That's a hard call! But if the question is whether an angel can exist in two books at once... oh yes. Others could have different opinions on that one, but to me they definately could be. Some people think of the seals as the angel's home, I think of it as their gateway. If that is so, I suppose they could have many gateways. And I warn you Mitsh, if you marry this idea, it will still be having many secret affairs with me! *shakes fist*
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:29 am
Loagaeth Mitsh Loagaeth Haha... no no. Angels are never bound, they come willingly. Someone could get themselves into quite a predicament if they tried to force an angel into a book. smile It's a diplomatic thing. The angels are asked to appear, but it is never that simple. It's not just calling the being up to do your work and then sending them away, the lines are opened both ways. The angels can also intervene and talk to you when they please as well. As far as the Wiccan Rede goes, I'm not really Wiccan, sooo... But, I can tell you that one is told never to disrespect any spirit, whether it is an angel or a demon or anything else. It's best never to try forcing a spirit to do something it doesn't want to do. Also, just because an angel's seal is in the book doesn't mean it has to cooperate. If it truly doesn't like the person or what they are doing, it doesn't have to show up, and if it does show up, it doesn't have to make its presence known OR grant the person's requests. But many times, the spirit agrees to help, for one reason or another.
I love this idea so much I'm going to marry it. <3
So, how would you define an angel? Is the angel in one seal in an Angelic Book the same one in the same seal in a different Angelic Book?Ahhhh, oh man. An angel is such a hard thing to define. I would have to say that some more common angels may bear the same resemblances to ones in other books just because they are a well known being, and yet others some may never have heard of. The angel I talk to has a name which is strikingly similar to the name of an enochian angel, and yet they are not the same creature. It's crazy how many spirits' names differ in just one letter. Some would say that they are the same angel if their names are so similar, and that is sometimes true. But, sometimes it apparantly isn't. That's a hard call! But if the question is whether an angel can exist in two books at once... oh yes. Others could have different opinions on that one, but to me they definately could be. Some people think of the seals as the angel's home, I think of it as their gateway. If that is so, I suppose they could have many gateways. And I warn you Mitsh, if you marry this idea, it will still be having many secret affairs with me! *shakes fist* Hey, nothing wrong with polyamory! heart heart Seals as portals makes more sense to me than seals as homes (or prisons), especially for this kind of relationship. This whole discussion on names made me think... many, perhaps most, of us humans share our name with at least one other living human. Wouldn't it be possible then for several angels to share a name?
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