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The baby is going to die.
abort it
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leave it in god's (or nature's) hands
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lymelady
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 3:11 pm


if women don't have to be ladies, guys don't have to be gentlemen...y'all have less work to do because of feminazis.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 3:13 pm


Ah, you've got a point there. 3nodding Although, I think it was easier before because you -knew- that you were supposed to treat a lady like a lady. Now we have no idea -how- to treat women; I mean, you can't really treat them like guys. But you can't treat them like ladies. You're supposed to treat them like just people, but what's that? There's no "just people", there's guys and there's ladies!

For a chivalrous, handsome, smart, and always modest guy like me, it makes it nearly impossible to get through the day! xp

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 3:27 pm


dammit why don't good guys live here? Every single good guy I ever meet is from texas or resides in texas. Except my dad and my grandfather. Brooklyn babies.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 3:30 pm


lymelady
dammit why don't good guys live here? Every single good guy I ever meet is from texas or resides in texas. Except my dad and my grandfather. Brooklyn babies.
Although I don't like to admit it, I'm actually from California. :shiver:

I might end up moving to the DC area when my family moves. Since my dad's in the military, and at the point he's at right now, it's almost definite that he'll be stationed at the Pentagon next. But I don't know if I'll go off to college here or go with them and find a place there. stressed

Probably here, because of scholarships. But then, I do so love the cold and hate the heat... Arg. It's a battle between temperature I like, and scholarships I need... Maybe I can find a good school up there that'll offer me a big scholarship. blaugh

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 3:33 pm


I get weird scholarships. I have to keep telling people I stayed back a year. IT makes them happier. They have more time to brainwash me I guess....I'd never heard of the pentagon until 9/11 and I lived here my whole life, is that crazy or what? I go to school about 8 or 9 miles away from it.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 3:37 pm


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I get weird scholarships. I have to keep telling people I stayed back a year. IT makes them happier. They have more time to brainwash me I guess....I'd never heard of the pentagon until 9/11 and I lived here my whole life, is that crazy or what? I go to school about 8 or 9 miles away from it.
That is nuts! eek And I thought -I- was living under a rock... xd

I'm just joking of course. I guess I heard about it mostly because my dad's in the military, a bunch of my friends are military children/military wannabes. Etc.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 3:43 pm


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I get weird scholarships. I have to keep telling people I stayed back a year. IT makes them happier. They have more time to brainwash me I guess....I'd never heard of the pentagon until 9/11 and I lived here my whole life, is that crazy or what? I go to school about 8 or 9 miles away from it.
That is nuts! eek And I thought -I- was living under a rock... xd

I'm just joking of course. I guess I heard about it mostly because my dad's in the military, a bunch of my friends are military children/military wannabes. Etc.
I really shoulda heard about it, considering a LOT of these kids in my school have at least one parent who works there.

I was in lit class with tenant's son last year. my friend in a very rude moment asked why his dad screwed up the cia. Not fun.....And tom ridge's kids. I think a few other people.

Anyway, yes, we were in church when we heard about it. So many kids were hysterical worried if it was the section their parents....well....

One girl's mom WAS supposed to be there. she was late. stuck in traffic. A few other people's parents were supposed to be there too, but weren't for various reasons. The school decided to chalk it down to the fact that we were in church when it happened. Twas scary, though.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 3:54 pm


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Subject: The Future of Texas


Please note that Texas is the only state with a legal right
> to secede from the Union.
> (please refer to the Texas-American Annexation Treaty of 184 cool .
>
> We Texans love y'all, but we'll have to take action if
> Kerry wins president over Bush. We'll miss you too.
>
> Texas has given all those complainers plenty of time
> to get used to the results. After seeing the whiners
> along the campaign route, the folks from Texas are
> considering taking matters into our their hands.
>
> Here is our solution:
>
> #1: Let John Kerry become President of the United States.
> (all 49 states.)
>
> #2: George W. Bush becomes the President of the Republic of Texas.
>
> So what does Texas have to do to! survive as a Republic?
>
> 1. NASA is just south of Houston, Texas.
> (we will control the space industry.)
>
> 2. We refine over 85% of the gasoline in the United States.
>
> 3. Defense Industry. (we have over 65% of it)
> The term "Don't mess with Texas," will take on a whole new meaning.
>
> 4. Oil - we can supply all the oil that the
> Republic of Texas will need for the next 300 years.
> Yankee states? Sorry about that.
>
> 5. Natural Gas - Again we have all we need and
> it's too bad about those northern states.
> John Kerry will figure a way to keep them warm....
>
> 6. Computer Industry - we currently lead the nation in producing computer
> chips and communications: Small places like Texas Instruments, Dell
> Computer, EDS, Raythe! on, National Semiconductor, Motorola, Intel, AMD,
> Atmel, Applied Materials, Ball Semiconductor, Dallas Semiconductor,> Delphi, Nortel, Alcatel, Etc, Etc. The list goes on and on.
>
> 7. Health Centers - We have the largest research centers for
> Cancer research, the best burn centers and the top trauma units
> in the world and other large health planning centers.
>
> 8. We have enough colleges to keep us going: UT., Texas A&M,
> Texas Tech, Rice, SMU, University of Houston, Baylor, UNT,
> Texas Women's University, etc. Ivy grows better in the south anyway
>
> 9. We have a ready supply of workers.
> (just open the border when we need some more).
>
> 10. We have control of the paper industry, plastics, insurance, etc.
>
> 11. In case of a foreign invasion, we have the Texas National Guard
> and the Texas Air National Guard. We don't have an army but since
> everybody down here has at least six rifles and a pile of ammo,
> we can raise an army in 24 hours if we need it.
> If the situation really gets bad, we can always call
> Department of Public Safety and ask them to send over a couple
> Texas Rangers.
>
> 12. We are totally self sufficient in beef, poultry, hogs and several
> types of grain, fruit and vegetables and lets not forget seafood from the
> gulf. And everybody down here knows how to cook them so that they taste
> good. Don't need any food.
>
> This just names a few of the items that will keep the Republic of Texas
> in good shape.
> There isn't a thing out there that we need and don't have.
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> Now to the rest of the United States under President Kerry:
>
>
>
> Since you won't have the refineries to get gas for your cars,
> only President Kerry will be able to drive around in his
> 9 mile per gallon SUV. The rest of the United States will have
> to walk or ride bikes.
>
> You won't have any TV as! the space center in Houston will cut off your
> communications. You won't have any natural gas to heat your homes but
> since Mr. Kerry has predicted global warming, you will not need the gas.
> Signed, The People in Texas

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 3:58 pm


And we'll make loads of money by selling our oil and natural gas at outrageous prices!
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 4:02 pm


guess they can't tell bush he's only going into Iraq for oil.

He's really going in for all those virgins.

You know, that always struck me as something. those poor virgin girls die and then they have to go and spend eternity sharing an oldish man with all those other girls?

I guess the moral of this story is make sure you have sex before you die or you'll regret it.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 4:42 pm


I wanna be a Texan now! crying
Ah well, I'm in Arkansas so I can always drive over there if Kerry gets elected...
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 4:49 pm


I'm stuck in Maryland, few miles away from DC.....basically, if Kerry gets elected and the terrorists say, well, he won't do anything now, so let's go, I'm screwed if they target DC.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 10:47 pm


lymelady
I'm stuck in Maryland, few miles away from DC.....basically, if Kerry gets elected and the terrorists say, well, he won't do anything now, so let's go, I'm screwed if they target DC.
Aww, if Kerry gets elected I'll just sneak you into my house. Another person or three or four wouldn't make a difference... Mom'd never notice. xd
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 11:06 pm


YOU KNOW WHAT I DON"T FREAKING UNDERSTAND?

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What I mean is... a fetus is potential life, it hasn't been born yet, it doesn't draw you pictures or play with the kids down the block. Where as an 8 yr. old kid does those things and more. So you can't argue that killing a "living kid" compared to a fetus is the same thing and justify the same punishment.
Quite frankly I think men have had all the power in deciding what they want, and women have only recently been able to do the same. If men are looking for a woman that will have their offspring, then he should actively look for one that wants to get pregnant. Otherwise all deals are off and it's up to the female.


so all those biologists who say life begins at conception are wrong? WOW.

Because we all know that women should have more rights than men.

If a guy can't make any choice, then he shouldn't have to pay child support or pay for any procedure. Sorry tootse, Can't open your own door and have them open it for you at the same time.

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The bottom line is this:

Legally, a woman has the right to remove a fetus from her body if she wants to. It is living off of her, it is living in her. There is no such thing as the right to live inside another human being, and I sincerely doubt there ever will be.

There should be no laws that mandate the usage of one person's body for the benefit of another. That's right, that sentence basically calls a fetus a person. It doesn't matter.

I wrote:
Honestly, I have trouble supporting abortion rights, because it doesn't seem right to me, either. You know what else doesn't seem right to me? People who refuse to be organ donors because they think it's icky....not that they need those organs after death or anything. Just because they don't want to give up their organs...maybe because of religion or something...but I still don't think it's right.

That doesn't mean I'm going to go out and petition the government to make organ donation mandatory. And it certainly doesn't mean I'm going to petition against abortion...because I believe everyone has a right to control what happens to his or her body. If they started trying to make organ donation mandatory, I bet even anti-abortion people would get pretty damn pissed. Wouldn't you?


An article I cited wrote:
Physical dependence was cleverly illustrated back in 1971 by philosopher Judith Jarvis Thompson. She created a scenario in which a woman is kidnapped and wakes up to find she's been surgically attached to a world-famous violinist who, for nine months, needs her body to survive. After those nine months, the violinist can survive just fine on his own, but he must have this particular woman in order to survive until then.

Thompson then asks if the woman is morally obliged to stay connected to the violinist who is living off her body. It might be a very good thing if she did - the world could have the beauty that would come from such a violinist - but is she morally obliged to let another being use her body to survive?


And somehow, I think that violinist was probably a thinking, rational being, unlike a fetus...does a fetus deserve more rights than a thinking, rational being?

Not to mention the fact that maybe it might not be a violinist--it could be a rapist.

It does not matter whether or not the fetus is a person. Period.


If I manage to somehow make a violinist appear out of thin air, then YES I'm obliged to stay like that. I'm the one that put it in that situation in the first place.

Because obviously newborns are philosophers and fetuses don't know jack....they just act like they have brains. like blondes.




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Now that last statement I think is something we can all agree on... hey, you pro-lifers want that fetus alive don't yah? The bill is all yours.
yeah, we can take all of those taxes medicaid uses on abortions and use it for childbirth....think about it. without abortion, women won't have that to use as birth control and less women will become pregnant, less women will need the money to go for the procedure, and less women will die due to complications from abortion.

Not to mention where all of my family's charity money goes *coughgabrielprojectcough*


I ranted... but I seriously don't understand this. oh, and,
"Don't like abortions? DOn't have one."

"DOn't like slavery? DOn't own slaves."

"But blacks are legally people!"

"Dred Scott: By a 7-2 (numbers sound familiar?) decision, the supreme court ruled blacks were not people with rights, and that it was unconstitutional to prohibit slavery in the new territories. "

"RVW: By a 7-2 (gotta love how easy this is) decision, the supreme court ruled fetuses were not people with rights, and that it was unconstitutionla to prohibit abortion."

Hmmmmm.......


and, they'll just do it illegally anyway. not only is that safe (just as safe as a clinic if you use an actual doctor, which most women did) but if we made everything legal based on people getting hurt trying to break the law, we'd have to make murder, rape, etc. legal too.


I DON"T UNDERSTAND.

I've decided I'm crazy....obviously when your bring a life into existance, the responsible thing is to snuff it quickly before it hurts it too much.

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lymelady
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 12:20 am


more I can't understand. how can it be YOUR body and a parasite at the same time? What can you do with your body. Hmm. whatever the hell you want, but that doesn't give you the right to do whatever you want to another human's body.
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