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 Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:03 pm
Naynram Ukir Obscurus Naynram Ukir The Darth Vizzle People are always afraid of what's different, and will always be -centric to their own culture or people. This is true of all countries, nations, and civilizations, without fail, since the inception of human civilization as we know it.
Hopefully, I think, the internet is changing that.
Well, until it all gets taken away. The best form of control over the people is to separate and block apart the masses. This is what the media is for, "God damn *insert race/country/type of people here that did something bad on the "news"*!".
But with the internet, those types of barriers are going away.
So obviously there's only one thing the governments would like to control better than anything else: The internet.
Where only people from your own country can post, or you can't use it all together if they think you're doing something "illegal".
This person has obviously never been to 4chan. The Internet Hate Machine is as strong as ever, and it hates everyone equally. Well, except for gays, blacks, and arabs. They get extra hate. The Internet has allowed all the hatred and prejudice of all the nations of the world to come together into one place. I don't think it's really made anyone more tolerant or understanding. Only liberal guilt can do that.
I've been to 4chan. Used to spend quite a lot of time in /x/ a long time back to be honest with you. *cough*
Anyhoo.
There's racism, yes. But that's actually a smaller part of the whole than you'd like to think. And a lot of the "racism" is not really "true" racism, but rather just jokes at their expense.
I disagree though. I believe the "hate" is a relatively small part of the whole internet. You try that racist s**t on facebook, or Gaia, etc. and people will be like "Damn, ******** racist." But maybe that's because all of it is a facade? Well, it's a working facade anyway, at least on the "overview" of society.
By chance have you seen the Gaia International forum? People of all races and ethnicities coming together over there. Sure it's a part of forum "rules" to stay civil, but eventually that "civility" becomes ingrain into the membrane if you know what I mean, and then you feel bad about it. People can be programmed by society, or a combination of their self and society. I prefer option 2, so I'm not "racist" and I don't hate on things I don't know.
Scientology isn't a race. Lol It's a proven cult that charges money for spirituality. I wasn't for any of the stupid protests, though, actually. I left 4chan after that retarded stunt. (Also because of the retarded memes that got way too old. Yeesh. Like, seriously, don't people get tired of that s**t?)
What's the difference between scientology or yoga classes then? You have to pay for both.
The only difference is, though, I think the price goes up as you go "up" in Scientology.?
I've read the original book on it before a little (I got bored the 2nd chapter in), and actually, if you take the stories as just metaphors, like some people say you're supposed to do with the bible, it isn't complete nonsense but actually a little bit enlightening.
Rules 1 & 2 are dead, but they were originally just for raids or other bad s**t.
Human beings hate. On the Internet they are free to express their hate because of anonymity. Most of the time people keep their mouths shut (or fingers off the keyboard) because they're held responsible for their words. Being truly anonymous changes that. The real individual comes out. All the deep, dark, nasty, animalistic things we try to deny seep back into the foreground because no one can shame us or tell us to stop because "That's wrong." I'll admit that a lot of the racism and "homophobia" is for humor's sake, but it can't be denied that on some level the real thing is present. $cientology is not a race, but it's a group that a lot of hatred is directed at. I'm not one to ask about $cientology because I don't really care one way or the other. It wouldn't be the first time someone made money off of the faith of others. Whenever someone writes some crazy s**t it can usually be smoothed over by saying it's allegory. The thing about $cientology is that it never runs out of expansion packs. They're still making OT levels. At least with yoga, or the Bible, those things have been established for a while and there's really no new doctrine being introduced, just rehashing of the same old things. If everyone followed rules one and two then there would never be any new anons. It's like in Fight Club; if everyone followed rules one and two then how did the club get so big?
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:07 pm
Sai Kaitou X Obscurus Tell that to Jessie Slaughter Nevermind, that was Ebaumsworld. And yes, I know all about the trap threads sadly. And I have it on good authority that 85% of /b/ are closet furries. I still love my /b/rothers though. Hey, what about $cientology? I know for a fact that hate is real. Also Jews. Should we do penance now for breaking rules one and two? Makes sense, considering how many furry threads pop up every Friday (or should I say Furiday).
Indeed. The hate for Scientology is real. And it's justified.
I don't think we'll need penance. Most of /b/ is Atheist anyway.
They wont find us here, so we'll let it slide. cool Friday? Stay on for longer than half an hour and you can find a furry porn dump every day of the week. I think rules one and two only apply when it comes to dealing with NORPS and the media anyway. I've yet to see someone raided for breaking them even though I've seen it used as a war cry to go after a certain blogger. It just ended up making him more money from ad revenue. Successful troll was successful. Also, see my Fight Club analogy in my previous post.
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:49 am
Obscurus Naynram Ukir Obscurus Naynram Ukir The Darth Vizzle People are always afraid of what's different, and will always be -centric to their own culture or people. This is true of all countries, nations, and civilizations, without fail, since the inception of human civilization as we know it.
Hopefully, I think, the internet is changing that.
Well, until it all gets taken away. The best form of control over the people is to separate and block apart the masses. This is what the media is for, "God damn *insert race/country/type of people here that did something bad on the "news"*!".
But with the internet, those types of barriers are going away.
So obviously there's only one thing the governments would like to control better than anything else: The internet.
Where only people from your own country can post, or you can't use it all together if they think you're doing something "illegal".
This person has obviously never been to 4chan. The Internet Hate Machine is as strong as ever, and it hates everyone equally. Well, except for gays, blacks, and arabs. They get extra hate. The Internet has allowed all the hatred and prejudice of all the nations of the world to come together into one place. I don't think it's really made anyone more tolerant or understanding. Only liberal guilt can do that.
I've been to 4chan. Used to spend quite a lot of time in /x/ a long time back to be honest with you. *cough*
Anyhoo.
There's racism, yes. But that's actually a smaller part of the whole than you'd like to think. And a lot of the "racism" is not really "true" racism, but rather just jokes at their expense.
I disagree though. I believe the "hate" is a relatively small part of the whole internet. You try that racist s**t on facebook, or Gaia, etc. and people will be like "Damn, ******** racist." But maybe that's because all of it is a facade? Well, it's a working facade anyway, at least on the "overview" of society.
By chance have you seen the Gaia International forum? People of all races and ethnicities coming together over there. Sure it's a part of forum "rules" to stay civil, but eventually that "civility" becomes ingrain into the membrane if you know what I mean, and then you feel bad about it. People can be programmed by society, or a combination of their self and society. I prefer option 2, so I'm not "racist" and I don't hate on things I don't know.
Scientology isn't a race. Lol It's a proven cult that charges money for spirituality. I wasn't for any of the stupid protests, though, actually. I left 4chan after that retarded stunt. (Also because of the retarded memes that got way too old. Yeesh. Like, seriously, don't people get tired of that s**t?)
What's the difference between scientology or yoga classes then? You have to pay for both.
The only difference is, though, I think the price goes up as you go "up" in Scientology.?
I've read the original book on it before a little (I got bored the 2nd chapter in), and actually, if you take the stories as just metaphors, like some people say you're supposed to do with the bible, it isn't complete nonsense but actually a little bit enlightening.
Rules 1 & 2 are dead, but they were originally just for raids or other bad s**t.
Human beings hate. On the Internet they are free to express their hate because of anonymity. Most of the time people keep their mouths shut (or fingers off the keyboard) because they're held responsible for their words. Being truly anonymous changes that. The real individual comes out. All the deep, dark, nasty, animalistic things we try to deny seep back into the foreground because no one can shame us or tell us to stop because "That's wrong." I'll admit that a lot of the racism and "homophobia" is for humor's sake, but it can't be denied that on some level the real thing is present. $cientology is not a race, but it's a group that a lot of hatred is directed at. I'm not one to ask about $cientology because I don't really care one way or the other. It wouldn't be the first time someone made money off of the faith of others. Whenever someone writes some crazy s**t it can usually be smoothed over by saying it's allegory. The thing about $cientology is that it never runs out of expansion packs. They're still making OT levels. At least with yoga, or the Bible, those things have been established for a while and there's really no new doctrine being introduced, just rehashing of the same old things. If everyone followed rules one and two then there would never be any new anons. It's like in Fight Club; if everyone followed rules one and two then how did the club get so big?
I guess I'm not human, and neither are Buddhists either then.
Metahuman? Not human at all? Idk.
I believe the exact opposite, and would like to say that humans are not based on love, or hate, but rather just fear of the unknown, which can *possibly* turn into hate the more you fear it, or if you're sick of fearing it that you hate it wholly. Without fear, you aren't human?
What's the matter with new doctrine then? Why is it so bad to have new religion in this day and age? What makes something new so different from something old? Who is to say Yoga or especially Christianity didn't start out that way, as a method to control? (If you choose to think Scientology is purely about controlling people)
I've been anonymous, and I still keep my true self. And so have others. There have been more people who just don't like the bullshit racism, aren't really racist or hateful, etc. even under the cloak of anonymity. Not because just because "society tells us so" but because it just does not agree with them and the person they are today, by empathizing. Would you say they are not human?
Wow, we've gone into a full sociology debate here. haha
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:29 pm
Naynram Ukir Obscurus Naynram Ukir Obscurus Naynram Ukir The Darth Vizzle People are always afraid of what's different, and will always be -centric to their own culture or people. This is true of all countries, nations, and civilizations, without fail, since the inception of human civilization as we know it.
Hopefully, I think, the internet is changing that.
Well, until it all gets taken away. The best form of control over the people is to separate and block apart the masses. This is what the media is for, "God damn *insert race/country/type of people here that did something bad on the "news"*!".
But with the internet, those types of barriers are going away.
So obviously there's only one thing the governments would like to control better than anything else: The internet.
Where only people from your own country can post, or you can't use it all together if they think you're doing something "illegal".
This person has obviously never been to 4chan. The Internet Hate Machine is as strong as ever, and it hates everyone equally. Well, except for gays, blacks, and arabs. They get extra hate. The Internet has allowed all the hatred and prejudice of all the nations of the world to come together into one place. I don't think it's really made anyone more tolerant or understanding. Only liberal guilt can do that.
I've been to 4chan. Used to spend quite a lot of time in /x/ a long time back to be honest with you. *cough*
Anyhoo.
There's racism, yes. But that's actually a smaller part of the whole than you'd like to think. And a lot of the "racism" is not really "true" racism, but rather just jokes at their expense.
I disagree though. I believe the "hate" is a relatively small part of the whole internet. You try that racist s**t on facebook, or Gaia, etc. and people will be like "Damn, ******** racist." But maybe that's because all of it is a facade? Well, it's a working facade anyway, at least on the "overview" of society.
By chance have you seen the Gaia International forum? People of all races and ethnicities coming together over there. Sure it's a part of forum "rules" to stay civil, but eventually that "civility" becomes ingrain into the membrane if you know what I mean, and then you feel bad about it. People can be programmed by society, or a combination of their self and society. I prefer option 2, so I'm not "racist" and I don't hate on things I don't know.
Scientology isn't a race. Lol It's a proven cult that charges money for spirituality. I wasn't for any of the stupid protests, though, actually. I left 4chan after that retarded stunt. (Also because of the retarded memes that got way too old. Yeesh. Like, seriously, don't people get tired of that s**t?)
What's the difference between scientology or yoga classes then? You have to pay for both.
The only difference is, though, I think the price goes up as you go "up" in Scientology.?
I've read the original book on it before a little (I got bored the 2nd chapter in), and actually, if you take the stories as just metaphors, like some people say you're supposed to do with the bible, it isn't complete nonsense but actually a little bit enlightening.
Rules 1 & 2 are dead, but they were originally just for raids or other bad s**t.
Human beings hate. On the Internet they are free to express their hate because of anonymity. Most of the time people keep their mouths shut (or fingers off the keyboard) because they're held responsible for their words. Being truly anonymous changes that. The real individual comes out. All the deep, dark, nasty, animalistic things we try to deny seep back into the foreground because no one can shame us or tell us to stop because "That's wrong." I'll admit that a lot of the racism and "homophobia" is for humor's sake, but it can't be denied that on some level the real thing is present. $cientology is not a race, but it's a group that a lot of hatred is directed at. I'm not one to ask about $cientology because I don't really care one way or the other. It wouldn't be the first time someone made money off of the faith of others. Whenever someone writes some crazy s**t it can usually be smoothed over by saying it's allegory. The thing about $cientology is that it never runs out of expansion packs. They're still making OT levels. At least with yoga, or the Bible, those things have been established for a while and there's really no new doctrine being introduced, just rehashing of the same old things. If everyone followed rules one and two then there would never be any new anons. It's like in Fight Club; if everyone followed rules one and two then how did the club get so big?
I guess I'm not human, and neither are Buddhists either then.
Metahuman? Not human at all? Idk.
I believe the exact opposite, and would like to say that humans are not based on love, or hate, but rather just fear of the unknown, which can *possibly* turn into hate the more you fear it, or if you're sick of fearing it that you hate it wholly. Without fear, you aren't human?
What's the matter with new doctrine then? Why is it so bad to have new religion in this day and age? What makes something new so different from something old? Who is to say Yoga or especially Christianity didn't start out that way, as a method to control? (If you choose to think Scientology is purely about controlling people)
I've been anonymous, and I still keep my true self. And so have others. There have been more people who just don't like the bullshit racism, aren't really racist or hateful, etc. even under the cloak of anonymity. Not because just because "society tells us so" but because it just does not agree with them and the person they are today, by empathizing. Would you say they are not human?
Wow, we've gone into a full sociology debate here. haha
Why wouldn't you or Buddhists be human? I made the observation that human beings hate. Humans seem to be the only animals capable of hate. I don't have a problem with new religion but some people do, as with all things. My opinion is that $cientology is a method of making money but as I said before it's not the first time someone has exploited faith for money and most likely will not be the last. My overall point is that anonymity allows the true person to come through. If you're racist, hate someone, etc. then it will come out. Some people are lucky enough to have moved beyond hate (or at least pretend that they have); a great many more are not as lucky and that should be obvious just by surfing the Internet for any appreciable amount of time.
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:21 pm
Obscurus Naynram Ukir Obscurus Naynram Ukir Obscurus This person has obviously never been to 4chan. The Internet Hate Machine is as strong as ever, and it hates everyone equally. Well, except for gays, blacks, and arabs. They get extra hate. The Internet has allowed all the hatred and prejudice of all the nations of the world to come together into one place. I don't think it's really made anyone more tolerant or understanding. Only liberal guilt can do that.
I've been to 4chan. Used to spend quite a lot of time in /x/ a long time back to be honest with you. *cough*
Anyhoo.
There's racism, yes. But that's actually a smaller part of the whole than you'd like to think. And a lot of the "racism" is not really "true" racism, but rather just jokes at their expense.
I disagree though. I believe the "hate" is a relatively small part of the whole internet. You try that racist s**t on facebook, or Gaia, etc. and people will be like "Damn, ******** racist." But maybe that's because all of it is a facade? Well, it's a working facade anyway, at least on the "overview" of society.
By chance have you seen the Gaia International forum? People of all races and ethnicities coming together over there. Sure it's a part of forum "rules" to stay civil, but eventually that "civility" becomes ingrain into the membrane if you know what I mean, and then you feel bad about it. People can be programmed by society, or a combination of their self and society. I prefer option 2, so I'm not "racist" and I don't hate on things I don't know.
Scientology isn't a race. Lol It's a proven cult that charges money for spirituality. I wasn't for any of the stupid protests, though, actually. I left 4chan after that retarded stunt. (Also because of the retarded memes that got way too old. Yeesh. Like, seriously, don't people get tired of that s**t?)
What's the difference between scientology or yoga classes then? You have to pay for both.
The only difference is, though, I think the price goes up as you go "up" in Scientology.?
I've read the original book on it before a little (I got bored the 2nd chapter in), and actually, if you take the stories as just metaphors, like some people say you're supposed to do with the bible, it isn't complete nonsense but actually a little bit enlightening.
Rules 1 & 2 are dead, but they were originally just for raids or other bad s**t.
Human beings hate. On the Internet they are free to express their hate because of anonymity. Most of the time people keep their mouths shut (or fingers off the keyboard) because they're held responsible for their words. Being truly anonymous changes that. The real individual comes out. All the deep, dark, nasty, animalistic things we try to deny seep back into the foreground because no one can shame us or tell us to stop because "That's wrong." I'll admit that a lot of the racism and "homophobia" is for humor's sake, but it can't be denied that on some level the real thing is present. $cientology is not a race, but it's a group that a lot of hatred is directed at. I'm not one to ask about $cientology because I don't really care one way or the other. It wouldn't be the first time someone made money off of the faith of others. Whenever someone writes some crazy s**t it can usually be smoothed over by saying it's allegory. The thing about $cientology is that it never runs out of expansion packs. They're still making OT levels. At least with yoga, or the Bible, those things have been established for a while and there's really no new doctrine being introduced, just rehashing of the same old things. If everyone followed rules one and two then there would never be any new anons. It's like in Fight Club; if everyone followed rules one and two then how did the club get so big?
I guess I'm not human, and neither are Buddhists either then.
Metahuman? Not human at all? Idk.
I believe the exact opposite, and would like to say that humans are not based on love, or hate, but rather just fear of the unknown, which can *possibly* turn into hate the more you fear it, or if you're sick of fearing it that you hate it wholly. Without fear, you aren't human?
What's the matter with new doctrine then? Why is it so bad to have new religion in this day and age? What makes something new so different from something old? Who is to say Yoga or especially Christianity didn't start out that way, as a method to control? (If you choose to think Scientology is purely about controlling people)
I've been anonymous, and I still keep my true self. And so have others. There have been more people who just don't like the bullshit racism, aren't really racist or hateful, etc. even under the cloak of anonymity. Not because just because "society tells us so" but because it just does not agree with them and the person they are today, by empathizing. Would you say they are not human?
Wow, we've gone into a full sociology debate here. haha
Why wouldn't you or Buddhists be human? I made the observation that human beings hate. Humans seem to be the only animals capable of hate. I don't have a problem with new religion but some people do, as with all things. My opinion is that $cientology is a method of making money but as I said before it's not the first time someone has exploited faith for money and most likely will not be the last. My overall point is that anonymity allows the true person to come through. If you're racist, hate someone, etc. then it will come out. Some people are lucky enough to have moved beyond hate (or at least pretend that they have); a great many more are not as lucky and that should be obvious just by surfing the Internet for any appreciable amount of time.
Some people think if you've evolved past hate, that you are no longer the human animal. If humans hate, but you don't, does that mean you're not human? That's the only thing I'm talking about.
And yeah, I suppose the ratio of good people on the internet to the "bad" are about 1:6 maybe.
But I believe with the amount of information the internet gives us, more people will be educated and wind up not as racist and more progressive towards changes in laws that matter in real life.
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 8:27 pm
Naynram Ukir Obscurus Naynram Ukir Obscurus Naynram Ukir Obscurus This person has obviously never been to 4chan. The Internet Hate Machine is as strong as ever, and it hates everyone equally. Well, except for gays, blacks, and arabs. They get extra hate. The Internet has allowed all the hatred and prejudice of all the nations of the world to come together into one place. I don't think it's really made anyone more tolerant or understanding. Only liberal guilt can do that.
I've been to 4chan. Used to spend quite a lot of time in /x/ a long time back to be honest with you. *cough*
Anyhoo.
There's racism, yes. But that's actually a smaller part of the whole than you'd like to think. And a lot of the "racism" is not really "true" racism, but rather just jokes at their expense.
I disagree though. I believe the "hate" is a relatively small part of the whole internet. You try that racist s**t on facebook, or Gaia, etc. and people will be like "Damn, ******** racist." But maybe that's because all of it is a facade? Well, it's a working facade anyway, at least on the "overview" of society.
By chance have you seen the Gaia International forum? People of all races and ethnicities coming together over there. Sure it's a part of forum "rules" to stay civil, but eventually that "civility" becomes ingrain into the membrane if you know what I mean, and then you feel bad about it. People can be programmed by society, or a combination of their self and society. I prefer option 2, so I'm not "racist" and I don't hate on things I don't know.
Scientology isn't a race. Lol It's a proven cult that charges money for spirituality. I wasn't for any of the stupid protests, though, actually. I left 4chan after that retarded stunt. (Also because of the retarded memes that got way too old. Yeesh. Like, seriously, don't people get tired of that s**t?)
What's the difference between scientology or yoga classes then? You have to pay for both.
The only difference is, though, I think the price goes up as you go "up" in Scientology.?
I've read the original book on it before a little (I got bored the 2nd chapter in), and actually, if you take the stories as just metaphors, like some people say you're supposed to do with the bible, it isn't complete nonsense but actually a little bit enlightening.
Rules 1 & 2 are dead, but they were originally just for raids or other bad s**t.
Human beings hate. On the Internet they are free to express their hate because of anonymity. Most of the time people keep their mouths shut (or fingers off the keyboard) because they're held responsible for their words. Being truly anonymous changes that. The real individual comes out. All the deep, dark, nasty, animalistic things we try to deny seep back into the foreground because no one can shame us or tell us to stop because "That's wrong." I'll admit that a lot of the racism and "homophobia" is for humor's sake, but it can't be denied that on some level the real thing is present. $cientology is not a race, but it's a group that a lot of hatred is directed at. I'm not one to ask about $cientology because I don't really care one way or the other. It wouldn't be the first time someone made money off of the faith of others. Whenever someone writes some crazy s**t it can usually be smoothed over by saying it's allegory. The thing about $cientology is that it never runs out of expansion packs. They're still making OT levels. At least with yoga, or the Bible, those things have been established for a while and there's really no new doctrine being introduced, just rehashing of the same old things. If everyone followed rules one and two then there would never be any new anons. It's like in Fight Club; if everyone followed rules one and two then how did the club get so big?
I guess I'm not human, and neither are Buddhists either then.
Metahuman? Not human at all? Idk.
I believe the exact opposite, and would like to say that humans are not based on love, or hate, but rather just fear of the unknown, which can *possibly* turn into hate the more you fear it, or if you're sick of fearing it that you hate it wholly. Without fear, you aren't human?
What's the matter with new doctrine then? Why is it so bad to have new religion in this day and age? What makes something new so different from something old? Who is to say Yoga or especially Christianity didn't start out that way, as a method to control? (If you choose to think Scientology is purely about controlling people)
I've been anonymous, and I still keep my true self. And so have others. There have been more people who just don't like the bullshit racism, aren't really racist or hateful, etc. even under the cloak of anonymity. Not because just because "society tells us so" but because it just does not agree with them and the person they are today, by empathizing. Would you say they are not human?
Wow, we've gone into a full sociology debate here. haha
Why wouldn't you or Buddhists be human? I made the observation that human beings hate. Humans seem to be the only animals capable of hate. I don't have a problem with new religion but some people do, as with all things. My opinion is that $cientology is a method of making money but as I said before it's not the first time someone has exploited faith for money and most likely will not be the last. My overall point is that anonymity allows the true person to come through. If you're racist, hate someone, etc. then it will come out. Some people are lucky enough to have moved beyond hate (or at least pretend that they have); a great many more are not as lucky and that should be obvious just by surfing the Internet for any appreciable amount of time.
Some people think if you've evolved past hate, that you are no longer the human animal. If humans hate, but you don't, does that mean you're not human? That's the only thing I'm talking about.
And yeah, I suppose the ratio of good people on the internet to the "bad" are about 1:6 maybe.
But I believe with the amount of information the internet gives us, more people will be educated and wind up not as racist and more progressive towards changes in laws that matter in real life.
Maybe eventually. The Internet has been widely available for more than a decade now and just in the last ten years that I've been on the Net I haven't seen much change as far as attitudes. There's always hope though, I guess.
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 8:59 pm
Obscurus Naynram Ukir
Some people think if you've evolved past hate, that you are no longer the human animal. If humans hate, but you don't, does that mean you're not human? That's the only thing I'm talking about.
And yeah, I suppose the ratio of good people on the internet to the "bad" are about 1:6 maybe.
But I believe with the amount of information the internet gives us, more people will be educated and wind up not as racist and more progressive towards changes in laws that matter in real life.
Maybe eventually. The Internet has been widely available for more than a decade now and just in the last ten years that I've been on the Net I haven't seen much change as far as attitudes. There's always hope though, I guess. I think sometimes people just need a place to let their inner anger out without consequences. I don't think that's exactly the same as hate or intolerance, though.
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:00 pm
Naynram Ukir I think sometimes people just need a place to let their inner anger out without consequences. I don't think that's exactly the same as hate or intolerance, though. Explain. As Obscurus was saying the internet is a mask that people use so they can be who they see themselves to be. Because they become unafraid. This is probably one of the few things on earth that is across the board. So if, you have your "mask of invincibility" on .. and you use it on a constant basis to express hate and anger.. that's likely who you really are.. or who you want to be. That's what you like, that's what you respect, that's what you think it's cool. And that, itself, is not cool. I agree people need a place to express their rage without consequence. But it still says a lot about a person and their beliefs.. how they go about doing so.
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:26 pm
Naynram Ukir Obscurus Naynram Ukir
Some people think if you've evolved past hate, that you are no longer the human animal. If humans hate, but you don't, does that mean you're not human? That's the only thing I'm talking about.
And yeah, I suppose the ratio of good people on the internet to the "bad" are about 1:6 maybe.
But I believe with the amount of information the internet gives us, more people will be educated and wind up not as racist and more progressive towards changes in laws that matter in real life.
Maybe eventually. The Internet has been widely available for more than a decade now and just in the last ten years that I've been on the Net I haven't seen much change as far as attitudes. There's always hope though, I guess. I think sometimes people just need a place to let their inner anger out without consequences. I don't think that's exactly the same as hate or intolerance, though. A lot of people do use the Internet to vent. However, I think it's obvious that in some cases there is serious malicious intent. It also makes it easier to do horrible things to people because of the disconnect that the Internet provides. It's no longer a person you are tormenting but an image on a screen. Also: What Mr Crawley said.
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:34 pm
Hmm, Yeah. You two are right.
I just like to feel like there are more better people out there, or ignore the ones who aren't, really.
I won't say there is a *complete* absence of good that is growing on the internet, but I will say that the amount of "bad" kind of out weighs it. But even then, it is really a *bad* thing that people do that act with a mask of anonymity? I just do what I do cause I like it better anyway.
But that's a whole 'nother topic. haha
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:12 am
When teens kill themselves over internet matters, the insensitve side of me says.
"What kind of weak person would do that, loser."
But when actually considering the age .. to most teenagers, wherever they are now.. or whatever they are doing now is their whole world. They don't have the experience to know that there are things beyond this whatever on the internet or that you'll probably never see people you went to highschool with ever again.
So I do think it's bad that these things are done with anonymity. Because I have a feeling that if the people who drove kids to commit suicide got away with it they'd do it again with much less remorse. Because when you get away with something there are only two paths. Personal guilt that keeps you from doing it again, or relief knowing you got away with it so you think you can get away with it again.
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:36 pm
Naynram Ukir Hmm, Yeah. You two are right.
I just like to feel like there are more better people out there, or ignore the ones who aren't, really.
I won't say there is a *complete* absence of good that is growing on the internet, but I will say that the amount of "bad" kind of out weighs it. But even then, it is really a *bad* thing that people do that act with a mask of anonymity? I just do what I do cause I like it better anyway.
But that's a whole 'nother topic. haha I think that whether it's on the Internet or in the "real world" there is a larger proportion of bad than there is good. That's the way things appear anyway.
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:44 am
People look at race way too much IF everyone was race-blind then everything would be perfect!
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