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 Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:05 pm
more times then not marrying into different sects within a religion is hard let alone interfaith marriages. for example if a person wants to marry in to the satmeer sect or the bellz(sp?) chassidim it sextremely hard.
i have heard persiun and syrian communities dont really allow their kids to even marry a convert
they probally have very specific shaddchanim they use
even rabbis who lead reconstructionist congergations wont be the rabbi at a interfaith marriage
its best to marry in your religion and someone who is as observent as you or if one is more the other has to be willing to become more frum
when the time is right iy'h ill find the perfectfellow jew
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:19 pm
On a small side note that I have heard, many couples where one of the people converts to a different religon just to be able to marry the other person do not stay together for very long periods of time, there are exceptions though.
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:31 am
hateyou the warlock On a small side note that I have heard, many couples where one of the people converts to a different religon just to be able to marry the other person do not stay together for very long periods of time, there are exceptions though. thats why a person cant convert to judaism just to marry they have to bea sincer convert in the eyes of the beit din
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:13 pm
My wife and I have been married 9 years. We met in a Jewish singles organization and established immediately the basic religion issue. We began with Jewishness...it was the basis of our new relationship. Everything else grew from there. Torah & mitzvot are still central in our lives. For us it worked out superbly to go this route. Both of us had gentiles interested in us and neither of us would consider it. Not because we dislike gentiles; both our best friends are gentiles, but because the family we wanted to create was a deeply Jewish one, and that wouldn't happen without a Jewish partner. We have family over almost every Friday night for erev Shabbat. We celebrate the Holy Days together. We send our child to the Hebrew day school. And so many other things, things that make sense to a Jewish partner that probably wouldn't to a gentile.
So I think it comes down to what kind of life you want to lead and what's important to you. What kind of sacrifices and changes are you going to have to make. Can you have the life you want with a gentile? Will a gentile partner 'get' who you are? Do you want to chance it?
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:45 am
I do have to agree with the above post. But what about the JAPs (if you do not know what I mean by this, you should not be in this guild at all.). Many of them have absolutely no clue about the religion or the culture. Many of them are not at least Lulavs. If I date a Jewish girl, besides her being into the samethings as me, I want her to be either a lulav, or hadass. Either leads to being an etrog in the end, or a liberal etrog in my case. And honestly it's hard to find a lulav or hadass in Orlando that likes video games, anime, martial arts, and is good looking, smart, nice, and not a total b***h/JAP. Or at least the majority of those.
The few that are, are complete ex-hipster nerd wannabes that bash nearly all of Nerd culture and don't like it when other Jews know more than them and can refute what they say with the same verses.
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:39 am
yes i suppose some JAPs might not be so great and no nothing of judaism but then again it all depends on the type of household they come from but they are some girls who are true Bas Melechs and they usually know a lot about judaism since they grew up chabad , charedei , or some type of chassidish
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:09 pm
First of all, the JAP is an ugly stereotype. Second of all, it is possible for any Jew to return to Torah, if only they have impetus to do so. Rather than giving up on your fellow Jews/Jewesses, look at every one of them as someone who has Torah written on their bones, carved into their souls. They may not come back to Torah, but then again, they may. There's a huge merit in knowing exactly what the secular world has to offer, even experiencing it, and then voluntarily coming to Torah. This merit is shared by converts and by ba'alei t'shuvah. They just need the opportunity to learn that there is a place in Judaism for them, a home in Torah, and that their growth in Torah -- however great or small -- is infinitely precious to Hashem.
One of the strongest Jews I know is one who had been raised unobservant, married non-Jewish, had two children, and then decided he wanted to give Judaism one last try before fully embracing Hinduism. These forty years later, his wife is Jewish, the two children they had are also converted, and they had four more children after that, ALL of whom are Torah-observant and raising Torah-loving children. You never know who's going to come back to Torah, and often it's the last person you'd think would do it. So don't count them out just because they weren't raised chareidi or because they're currently living secular lives.
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:19 pm
B"H
Honestly, there are many Halacha on why you should never marry outside of your faith....however there is also people who know from excperience. I am an orthadox 16 year old girl with a dad who is not Jewish and a Imma who is. We keep kosher my brothers wear Kippah and such, but there was a lot to get us where we are. My Imma inside a Jewish community is not accpeted. People are kind to her and polite, but she is not accpeted. (Hence we dont live inside a Jewish community and we attend a Chabad, which accepts every one.) So no from excperince and usuing Halacha, never ever marry outside your faith. You may not be practicing at the moment but there is that possibility you will be or you want to rais your children Jewish it will most likely not be an easy thing to get through.
Also I would like to mention that if your husband trys to "compromise" with you and say we can go to a messianc shull so they can get Jewish ideas and such but still learn about Jesus, dont even bother. Its not a compromise for anything but compromising who you are. I have also seen that happen to a dear friend of mine.
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:42 pm
Divash First of all, the JAP is an ugly stereotype. Second of all, it is possible for any Jew to return to Torah, if only they have impetus to do so. Rather than giving up on your fellow Jews/Jewesses, look at every one of them as someone who has Torah written on their bones, carved into their souls. They may not come back to Torah, but then again, they may. There's a huge merit in knowing exactly what the secular world has to offer, even experiencing it, and then voluntarily coming to Torah. This merit is shared by converts and by ba'alei t'shuvah. They just need the opportunity to learn that there is a place in Judaism for them, a home in Torah, and that their growth in Torah -- however great or small -- is infinitely precious to Hashem. One of the strongest Jews I know is one who had been raised unobservant, married non-Jewish, had two children, and then decided he wanted to give Judaism one last try before fully embracing Hinduism. These forty years later, his wife is Jewish, the two children they had are also converted, and they had four more children after that, ALL of whom are Torah-observant and raising Torah-loving children. You never know who's going to come back to Torah, and often it's the last person you'd think would do it. So don't count them out just because they weren't raised chareidi or because they're currently living secular lives. ah!! thanx for say things so much clearer
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:46 pm
Elisheva B"H Honestly, there are many Halacha on why you should never marry outside of your faith....however there is also people who know from excperience. I am an orthadox 16 year old girl with a dad who is not Jewish and a Imma who is. We keep kosher my brothers wear Kippah and such, but there was a lot to get us where we are. My Imma inside a Jewish community is not accpeted. People are kind to her and polite, but she is not accpeted. (Hence we dont live inside a Jewish community and we attend a Chabad, which accepts every one.) So no from excperince and usuing Halacha, never ever marry outside your faith. You may not be practicing at the moment but there is that possibility you will be or you want to rais your children Jewish it will most likely not be an easy thing to get through. Also I would like to mention that if your husband trys to "compromise" with you and say we can go to a messianc shull so they can get Jewish ideas and such but still learn about Jesus, dont even bother. Its not a compromise for anything but compromising who you are. I have also seen that happen to a dear friend of mine. some jewish communities will accept your family as they are besides chabad and at least you don't have the complication of your father being jewish and your mother isn't thats a whole other set of problems with halacha and everything especially if you want to make aliyah and get all of the benefits the goverment will supply
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:55 pm
Zumbi2 I do have to agree with the above post. But what about the JAPs (if you do not know what I mean by this, you should not be in this guild at all.). Many of them have absolutely no clue about the religion or the culture. Many of them are not at least Lulavs. If I date a Jewish girl, besides her being into the samethings as me, I want her to be either a lulav, or hadass. Either leads to being an etrog in the end, or a liberal etrog in my case. And honestly it's hard to find a lulav or hadass in Orlando that likes video games, anime, martial arts, and is good looking, smart, nice, and not a total b***h/JAP. Or at least the majority of those. The few that are, are complete ex-hipster nerd wannabes that bash nearly all of Nerd culture and don't like it when other Jews know more than them and can refute what they say with the same verses. Sorry, not quite getting the whole women being catagorised by the Four Species metaphor... Anyone want to explain?
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Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:17 pm
While of course it is easier to be with someone of the same religion, I think that with the right person you can make it work. You both just have to be open minded and flexible.
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:03 pm
I was born to gentile parents. Now I'm learning about Judaism and will be going for conversion(Orthodox) the second I can. I dated a goy and I will never go back smile . Every intermarriage I have seen have ended up badly. With their children not learning about Judaism. I have met many Ba'al Teshuva's but they are still confused about who they are because their parents decided to make bad decisions :-/.
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