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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:45 pm
Hakuro de Killer Aka_Saiyaku Hakuro de Killer Well Palomuro doesn't work in the deck like I thought it was because Level 1 tuners of any kind won't work. Scrap Beast is a tuner and Scrap Chimera is riddled with restrictions. Therefore, I looked on YVD for a Level 1 EARTH Non-tuner that'd work, then an epiphany came to me: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/MojaA Level 1 EARTH non-tuner that can bring back Giant Rat, Scrap Beast, or Scrap Chimera the instant it gets destroyed. Then I can tune Beast and Moja for Naturia Beast and everyone's happy. I'll edit my original post with the build reflecting this, give or take a change or two. Hahaha!! Wooow I can't believe I forgot him. I pulled himm out of the Raging Battle promos when they released the Duelist pack Yusei along with Iron Core and BW Shura. Excellent choice. It's definitely a worthwhile addition and your deck is that much stronger. On a personal note, this has to be one of the most enjoyable conversations I've had in this guild with anyone other than a crew member. Everyone else just act like idiots and get ignorant after the first post of any kind of advice. Well I do try to be polite to the guildies who AREN'T satirical douchebags, so thank you very much. You were also a lot of help with my process, so I appreciate talking to you as well. You're very much welcome. Now, with 2 Quillbolt in your main deck, what will take their place in the Side deck?
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:57 pm
...I knew I forgot something. I need to -2 the Quillbolts in the maindeck because I got annoyed and tried to implement the Quillbolt Loop into the main deck rather than sideboarding it in during dire situations. Need to replace the maindeck ones. I figure I'll go for an anti-meta card. Maybe +1 Morphing Jar and +1 Prime Material Dragon. Thoughts?
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:04 pm
Hakuro de Killer ...I knew I forgot something. I need to -2 the Quillbolts in the maindeck because I got annoyed and tried to implement the Quillbolt Loop into the main deck rather than sideboarding it in during dire situations. Need to replace the maindeck ones. I figure I'll go for an anti-meta card. Maybe +1 Morphing Jar and +1 Prime Material Dragon. Thoughts? Morphing jar sounds okay. Not so thrilled about Prime Material. Maybe another Guts of Steel or Foolish Burial? You could always bury Plaguespreader and topdeck a card to special summon him for an instant synchro, or any kind of combo with Scrap Chimera to get out your Scrap Dragon real quick (or Scrap Golem for any other synchro you need).
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:18 pm
Aka_Saiyaku Hakuro de Killer ...I knew I forgot something. I need to -2 the Quillbolts in the maindeck because I got annoyed and tried to implement the Quillbolt Loop into the main deck rather than sideboarding it in during dire situations. Need to replace the maindeck ones. I figure I'll go for an anti-meta card. Maybe +1 Morphing Jar and +1 Prime Material Dragon. Thoughts? Morphing jar sounds okay. Not so thrilled about Prime Material. Maybe another Guts of Steel or Foolish Burial? You could always bury Plaguespreader and topdeck a card to special summon him for an instant synchro, or any kind of combo with Scrap Chimera to get out your Scrap Dragon real quick (or Scrap Golem for any other synchro you need). I don't wanna go with a Foolish because there are a lot more searchers than just in the staples. In actuality, not counting Graveyard recruiters, there are 12+ searchers and +3 Millers in the deck. 3 Giant Germs, 1 Sangan, 3 Scrap Goblins, 3 Scrap Beasts, and 2 Scrapyards for searchers and then Scrapstorm is what mills the necessary monsters from deck to grave already, so Foolish is a smidgeon overkill. As for a third Guts, I could see that, though the thing I am most concerned about is being forced to use it in a situation where Imperial Iron Wall isn't in play. So instead, maybe a Brain Control would suffice? It could work with any of my tuners (or non-tuners, depending) or even to tribute for Golem for the hell of it.
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:24 pm
Hakuro de Killer Aka_Saiyaku Hakuro de Killer ...I knew I forgot something. I need to -2 the Quillbolts in the maindeck because I got annoyed and tried to implement the Quillbolt Loop into the main deck rather than sideboarding it in during dire situations. Need to replace the maindeck ones. I figure I'll go for an anti-meta card. Maybe +1 Morphing Jar and +1 Prime Material Dragon. Thoughts? Morphing jar sounds okay. Not so thrilled about Prime Material. Maybe another Guts of Steel or Foolish Burial? You could always bury Plaguespreader and topdeck a card to special summon him for an instant synchro, or any kind of combo with Scrap Chimera to get out your Scrap Dragon real quick (or Scrap Golem for any other synchro you need). I don't wanna go with a Foolish because there are a lot more searchers than just in the staples. In actuality, not counting Graveyard recruiters, there are 12+ searchers and +3 Millers in the deck. 3 Giant Germs, 1 Sangan, 3 Scrap Goblins, 3 Scrap Beasts, and 2 Scrapyards for searchers and then Scrapstorm is what mills the necessary monsters from deck to grave already, so Foolish is a smidgeon overkill. As for a third Guts, I could see that, though the thing I am most concerned about is being forced to use it in a situation where Imperial Iron Wall isn't in play. So instead, maybe a Brain Control would suffice? It could work with any of my tuners (or non-tuners, depending) or even to tribute for Golem for the hell of it. Good point about searchers. Either Brain Control or Mind Control (you can't attack or sac it, but there's no lifepoint cost) EDIT: Have you considered Scrap Polish? http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Scrap_Polish
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:01 pm
Aka_Saiyaku Hakuro de Killer Aka_Saiyaku Hakuro de Killer ...I knew I forgot something. I need to -2 the Quillbolts in the maindeck because I got annoyed and tried to implement the Quillbolt Loop into the main deck rather than sideboarding it in during dire situations. Need to replace the maindeck ones. I figure I'll go for an anti-meta card. Maybe +1 Morphing Jar and +1 Prime Material Dragon. Thoughts? Morphing jar sounds okay. Not so thrilled about Prime Material. Maybe another Guts of Steel or Foolish Burial? You could always bury Plaguespreader and topdeck a card to special summon him for an instant synchro, or any kind of combo with Scrap Chimera to get out your Scrap Dragon real quick (or Scrap Golem for any other synchro you need). I don't wanna go with a Foolish because there are a lot more searchers than just in the staples. In actuality, not counting Graveyard recruiters, there are 12+ searchers and +3 Millers in the deck. 3 Giant Germs, 1 Sangan, 3 Scrap Goblins, 3 Scrap Beasts, and 2 Scrapyards for searchers and then Scrapstorm is what mills the necessary monsters from deck to grave already, so Foolish is a smidgeon overkill. As for a third Guts, I could see that, though the thing I am most concerned about is being forced to use it in a situation where Imperial Iron Wall isn't in play. So instead, maybe a Brain Control would suffice? It could work with any of my tuners (or non-tuners, depending) or even to tribute for Golem for the hell of it. Good point about searchers. Either Brain Control or Mind Control (you can't attack or sac it, but there's no lifepoint cost) EDIT: Have you considered Scrap Polish? http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Scrap_PolishI thought that was coming out in Starstrike... but no matter. I think I'm running way too few Scraps to put it to full use, so I'll probably stock 'em, but not run 'em until Starstrike. Really REALLY good card, though. I just think that it's too early to be maindecked.
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:07 pm
Hakuro de Killer I thought that was coming out in Starstrike... but no matter. I think I'm running way too few Scraps to put it to full use, so I'll probably stock 'em, but not run 'em until Starstrike. Really REALLY good card, though. I just think that it's too early to be maindecked. Hmm...Alright. And it came out in Revolution in Japan so maybe it won't come out til Starstrike here. Anyway, yeah it does seem good, especially used with Golem or Chimera to summon for a tuner and then use polish to recycle a scrap from the graveyard and get away with a beatstick for a turn.
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:24 pm
Aka_Saiyaku Hakuro de Killer I thought that was coming out in Starstrike... but no matter. I think I'm running way too few Scraps to put it to full use, so I'll probably stock 'em, but not run 'em until Starstrike. Really REALLY good card, though. I just think that it's too early to be maindecked. Hmm...Alright. And it came out in Revolution in Japan so maybe it won't come out til Starstrike here. Anyway, yeah it does seem good, especially used with Golem or Chimera to summon for a tuner and then use polish to recycle a scrap from the graveyard and get away with a beatstick for a turn. Even better: Chimera for Soldier, Synchro for Scrap Twin, destroy a Goblin to bounce two of their monsters, summon Soldier back, Guts for Chimera or 2 Golems (Assuming Chimera is picked), synchro for another Scrap Twin, pop second Goblin to bounce 2 more cards and grab a Golem, activate Golem to special Soldier, activate Polish, destroying Soldier for Golem, swing for massive damage. ...Oh dear god... Ultimate Offering for the Starstrike build. Dear god, yes.
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:34 pm
Hakuro de Killer Aka_Saiyaku Hakuro de Killer I thought that was coming out in Starstrike... but no matter. I think I'm running way too few Scraps to put it to full use, so I'll probably stock 'em, but not run 'em until Starstrike. Really REALLY good card, though. I just think that it's too early to be maindecked. Hmm...Alright. And it came out in Revolution in Japan so maybe it won't come out til Starstrike here. Anyway, yeah it does seem good, especially used with Golem or Chimera to summon for a tuner and then use polish to recycle a scrap from the graveyard and get away with a beatstick for a turn. Even better: Chimera for Soldier, Synchro for Scrap Twin, destroy a Goblin to bounce two of their monsters, summon Soldier back, Guts for Chimera or 2 Golems (Assuming Chimera is picked), synchro for another Scrap Twin, pop second Goblin to bounce 2 more cards and grab a Golem, activate Golem to special Soldier, activate Polish, destroying Soldier for Golem, swing for massive damage. ...Oh dear god... Ultimate Offering for the Starstrike build. Dear god, yes. Lol I never looked that far into it. I'm still working on my Infernities for post Sept 1st play. I dunno why, but I love the no hand thing. Even if there was no OTK, I'd still use them. And my GBeasts are shot until I can mod the deck a bit more, but I've been busy with work and all. Yeah, Ultimate Offering will definitely make for quick swarm.
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:40 pm
Aka_Saiyaku Hakuro de Killer Aka_Saiyaku Hakuro de Killer I thought that was coming out in Starstrike... but no matter. I think I'm running way too few Scraps to put it to full use, so I'll probably stock 'em, but not run 'em until Starstrike. Really REALLY good card, though. I just think that it's too early to be maindecked. Hmm...Alright. And it came out in Revolution in Japan so maybe it won't come out til Starstrike here. Anyway, yeah it does seem good, especially used with Golem or Chimera to summon for a tuner and then use polish to recycle a scrap from the graveyard and get away with a beatstick for a turn. Even better: Chimera for Soldier, Synchro for Scrap Twin, destroy a Goblin to bounce two of their monsters, summon Soldier back, Guts for Chimera or 2 Golems (Assuming Chimera is picked), synchro for another Scrap Twin, pop second Goblin to bounce 2 more cards and grab a Golem, activate Golem to special Soldier, activate Polish, destroying Soldier for Golem, swing for massive damage. ...Oh dear god... Ultimate Offering for the Starstrike build. Dear god, yes. Lol I never looked that far into it. I'm still working on my Infernities for post Sept 1st play. I dunno why, but I love the no hand thing. Even if there was no OTK, I'd still use them. And my GBeasts are shot until I can mod the deck a bit more, but I've been busy with work and all. Yeah, Ultimate Offering will definitely make for quick swarm. I wanted to build Infernities, but my binder had been stolen a couple months ago that had every single one of my infernity cards in it as well as some cards I could very well have used for a large variety of decks. As for current builds, I have my pride and joy of the past half-a year or so, being my Fish Synchro, which I adopted after the swift demise of my Dark Strike OTK deck (revolved around LV4 DARK Machines, Black Salvo and synchroing DSF, followed by using Metal Reflect Slimes, Barbaros, and Fusiliers as ammo, then using Dark Creator as a means of "reloading the ammo".) I also have a variety of lesser decks built also that don't have as much punch as my Fish Synchro just made with my commons/rares that managed to escape theft. Arcana Force, Psychics, Warrior Gemini, Casters, and a bunch of other decks in the same kind of vein.
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:48 pm
Hakuro de Killer I wanted to build Infernities, but my binder had been stolen a couple months ago that had every single one of my infernity cards in it as well as some cards I could very well have used for a large variety of decks. As for current builds, I have my pride and joy of the past half-a year or so, being my Fish Synchro, which I adopted after the swift demise of my Dark Strike OTK deck (revolved around LV4 DARK Machines, Black Salvo and synchroing DSF, followed by using Metal Reflect Slimes, Barbaros, and Fusiliers as ammo, then using Dark Creator as a means of "reloading the ammo".) I also have a variety of lesser decks built also that don't have as much punch as my Fish Synchro just made with my commons/rares that managed to escape theft. Arcana Force, Psychics, Warrior Gemini, Casters, and a bunch of other decks in the same kind of vein. Once Starstrike comes out, you can splash in Red Nova and Shooting Star Dragons. Axean will tell you those work great in Fish Synchro. I never like playing any OTK Decks, but Infernities are by far my favorites so I had to try it out. An OTK/FTK deck is too boring cuz you win the same way. Likewise, I have GBeasts, Spell Counter, Gemini, Machina Gadget, etc. Just for fun.
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:55 pm
Aka_Saiyaku Hakuro de Killer I wanted to build Infernities, but my binder had been stolen a couple months ago that had every single one of my infernity cards in it as well as some cards I could very well have used for a large variety of decks. As for current builds, I have my pride and joy of the past half-a year or so, being my Fish Synchro, which I adopted after the swift demise of my Dark Strike OTK deck (revolved around LV4 DARK Machines, Black Salvo and synchroing DSF, followed by using Metal Reflect Slimes, Barbaros, and Fusiliers as ammo, then using Dark Creator as a means of "reloading the ammo".) I also have a variety of lesser decks built also that don't have as much punch as my Fish Synchro just made with my commons/rares that managed to escape theft. Arcana Force, Psychics, Warrior Gemini, Casters, and a bunch of other decks in the same kind of vein. Once Starstrike comes out, you can splash in Red Nova and Shooting Star Dragons. Axean will tell you those work great in Fish Synchro. I never like playing any OTK Decks, but Infernities are by far my favorites so I had to try it out. An OTK/FTK deck is too boring cuz you win the same way. Likewise, I have GBeasts, Spell Counter, Gemini, Machina Gadget, etc. Just for fun. Who do you think gave Axean the idea to splash Red Nova and Shooting Star into Fish Synchro? *wink* For OTK decks, I totally agree. But when it came to my Dark Strike OTK, it wasn't so much of an OTK as it was a generic burn deck. But it was OTK-able most of the time. Also, I think my next Scrap build, when Starstrike comes out, is gonna get rid of the Iron Wall and have more support for the actual scraps, combined with some Gigastone Omega and Return From the Different Dimension things going on.
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:01 pm
I liked Dark Strike Fighter in Reactor Decks. He was pretty cool. I also kinda like the Gigaplant OTK, but it's still boring when you win the same way each time.
I think the original idea you have now is really cool. But as more support comes out you'll definitely get more creative play out of the archetype
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:18 am
Aka_Saiyaku I liked Dark Strike Fighter in Reactor Decks. He was pretty cool. I also kinda like the Gigaplant OTK, but it's still boring when you win the same way each time. I think the original idea you have now is really cool. But as more support comes out you'll definitely get more creative play out of the archetype Well I've been hammering this particular deck out for weeks now, but the past couple of days have been the quickest and most productive. I do appreciate your help and I can only hope I can rely on your aid the next time I have a deck that needs building.
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:02 am
Legendary Pirate Plasma Aka_Saiyaku I liked Dark Strike Fighter in Reactor Decks. He was pretty cool. I also kinda like the Gigaplant OTK, but it's still boring when you win the same way each time. I think the original idea you have now is really cool. But as more support comes out you'll definitely get more creative play out of the archetype Well I've been hammering this particular deck out for weeks now, but the past couple of days have been the quickest and most productive. I do appreciate your help and I can only hope I can rely on your aid the next time I have a deck that needs building. Hey, whenever you need it, I'll take the time to look it over.
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