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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:50 pm
Valgex Then I want Tobacco to be illegal oh and Alcohol as well. So do I. Valgex It's a double standard and it just doesn't make sense! I agree. It's hypocritical. Valgex What permanent side effects does Marijuana cause that the end result is suffering and then death? Marijuana has many potential side effects. Valgex And everyone else does it for fun, because it is FUN! Most people smoke for fun. Fun is not a medicinal property.
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:57 pm
Asher2501 Maybe if they had taken the time to get the laws changed the right way, instead of doing something illegal, do you really think they'd be in the position that they're in? Hm? Agreed. When people just break and b***h about laws, most other people take them less seriously. Because when they do that, they just look like your typical punk kids who are trying to stir up trouble. So if you feel strongly about the issue, do something. And by "something," I do not mean whine about people getting busted for breaking the law. And I do not mean make up facts about how marijuana is totally good for you and has no bad side effects. Get the facts, then be honest about the facts. Get involved in politics, write letters, vote, etc.
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:01 pm
LorienLlewellyn Valgex Then I want Tobacco to be illegal oh and Alcohol as well. So do I. Valgex It's a double standard and it just doesn't make sense! I agree. It's hypocritical. Valgex What permanent side effects does Marijuana cause that the end result is suffering and then death? Marijuana has many potential side effects. Valgex And everyone else does it for fun, because it is FUN! Most people smoke for fun. Fun is not a medicinal property. No, I would love to hear the permanent effects that lead to suffering and then death please. Not sure if I said it didn't do anything, maybe in the past, but I sure hell know its nothing nearly as bad compared to what these legal drugs do to people. Asher2501 Valgex (P.S) Marijuana doesn't ruin your life(Unless you lack control), Government is what ruins your life. Are you serious? Did I seriously just read this load of bullcrap right? Let me get this straight and see if I am understanding you correctly. You're saying that because people chose to ignore laws that they knew damn well were in place, knew that violating those laws would get them shitcanned, and chose to do it anyway, that somehow "T3h Government" is the one at fault? For real? Maybe if they had taken the time to get the laws changed the right way, instead of doing something illegal, do you really think they'd be in the position that they're in? Hm? You see and believe whatever the government says and does is right. Do you believe that all their laws are justice and right? Do you support them in trying to fight gay marriage just like when they fight for black rights? It's almost the same thing! The government fought Alcohol and it failed, guess where Marijuana is going? The same direction! We have been repeating history, but those in power can't see the connection. And I'm trying to do what I can, spread the word. Trying to get people to do more research on the subject. I can't open the eyes of others, they have to take that journey themselves. These are videos, I'll add more Legalizing Marijuana: Costs vs Benefits Dopamine Reference videoFBI Doesn't know what they are talking aboutWhy it should be legalized, Expert's viewWhy is Marijuana IllegalJoe Rogan on Hemp, Marijuana and DMTThe Truth About Marijuana: When a Good Plant Got a Bad NameMarijuana is EXTREMELY dangerous!Videos against Marijuana FOX News says Marijuana is dangerous! (Everyone knows, the media is ALWAYS RIGHT...Sarcasm)
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:16 pm
Valgex You see and believe whatever the government says and does is right. Do you believe that all their laws are justice and right? Do you support them in trying to fight gay marriage just like when they fight for black rights? It's almost the same thing! The government fought Alcohol and it failed, guess where Marijuana is going? The same direction! We have been repeating history, but those in power can't see the connection. And I'm trying to do what I can, spread the word. Trying to get people to do more research on the subject. I can't open the eyes of others, they have to take that journey themselves. No, but not believing that the government is right is not express-written pernission to break those laws and then try to b***h about the consequences. Either conform to the laws, customs, and language of the country or move somplace else, because dissenters cause nothing but trouble. And there are much more important things than people's recreational bullcrap we should have our attention on right now. We have people attacking our country, illegal immigrants burdening the hell out of our country's economy, and a President who isn't even a natural born citizen more worried about passing an unconstitutional healthcare bill than trying to create jobs. Oh yeah, good luck gettig his full attention on the Gulf spill, he's too busy trying to improve his golf game while blaming everything on Bush. And pot is all you're worried about?
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:19 pm
Asher2501 Valgex You see and believe whatever the government says and does is right. Do you believe that all their laws are justice and right? Do you support them in trying to fight gay marriage just like when they fight for black rights? It's almost the same thing! The government fought Alcohol and it failed, guess where Marijuana is going? The same direction! We have been repeating history, but those in power can't see the connection. And I'm trying to do what I can, spread the word. Trying to get people to do more research on the subject. I can't open the eyes of others, they have to take that journey themselves. No, but not believing that the government is right is not express-written pernission to break those laws and then try to b***h about the consequences. Either conform to the laws, customs, and language of the country or move somplace else, because dissenters cause nothing but trouble. And there are much more important things than people's recreational bullcrap we should have our attention on right now. We have people attacking our country, illegal immigrants burdening the hell out of our country's economy, and a President who isn't even a natural born citizen more worried about passing an unconstitutional healthcare bill than trying to create jobs. Oh yeah, good luck gettig his full attention on the Gulf spill, he's too busy trying to improve his golf game while blaming everything on Bush. And pot is all you're worried about? The main reason why we are being attacked is because we buy Marijuana from the Cartels! We created that mess, we can fix it. I posted several videos in m last post. Check them all out. I'm trying to find videos against it, but it's somewhat difficult on youtube, I need to add more words into the search. I don't blame Bush, I blame Congress, I hate them the most. Also, I'm not a fan of the Health Care, cause I'd rather have government ran car insurance, cause we are actually required by law to have car insurance and it's expensive too. (P.S) Did you know Obama cares more to sue my state, (Arizona) than take on these illegals and Cartels? I've been listening to it on the news for hours. -------------------------------------------------- Videos for MarijuanaMarijuana Has No Lethal Dose! Douglas Hiatt: I-1086 Legalize Marijuana WashingtonPurdue NORML - Marijuana vs AlcoholLegalizing Marijuana: Costs vs Benefits Dopamine Reference video100 million Americans say yes to marijuanaDrug Nation - CNN Takes A Look At Legalizing MarijuanaMother says Marijuana saved her sons life. Legalize 2010Marijuana Helps Grow Brain CellsMarijuana Helps Protect Brain CellsCNBC SAYS - MARIJUANA = LARGEST CASH CROP IN CAFBI Doesn't know what they are talking about95% Want Marijuana Legalized-CNN Poll!Why it should be legalized, Expert's viewWhy is Marijuana IllegalFormer Fed Tells CNN Why Marijuana Must Be Legalized!Joe Rogan on Hemp, Marijuana and DMTThe Truth About Marijuana: When a Good Plant Got a Bad NameMarijuana is EXTREMELY dangerous!Our Marijuana Laws Destroy Lives The Rachel Hoffman Tragedy (MPP-TV)Our Founding Fathers Smoked MarijuanaVideos against MarijuanaWhy the Government Says Marijuana Kills Brain Cells...Its all BSFOX News says Marijuana is dangerous! (Everyone knows, the media is ALWAYS RIGHT...Sarcasm) Marijuana Debatesformer drug czar gets nailed in marijuana debateBill O'Reilly on Marijuana / It's Just a PlantGlenn Beck Legalize Marijuana & Stop The Violence
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:41 pm
Well, first off. The way he got in that situation was pot. Now, that I disagree with. I support legalizing pot and I am not a pot head. In fact my brother's life got ******** over because of pot. So, I know very well the bad that comes from it. But, one thing reason it screwed his life up is cause he started a young age. Marijuana though can help alot of people who suffer from many diseases or chronic illness. I mean hell where I am Salvia is legalized and that is freaking organic Acid. Weed doesn't cause destruction or take as many lives as Cigs and Alcohol. I mean there should be limits and stuff. Like not till 21. But, seriously Ciggarettes do not help anything. Most people do it because it realizes stress. Which is not true it just stores it up and becomes worse. Weed Is less damaging and really is a better relaxing stress reliever. I could go on but, to tired.
Now, the cop. It is just sick. Corruption. It's disgusting and in every damn county.
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Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:51 am
Valgex No, I would love to hear the permanent effects that lead to suffering and then death please. Marijuana use has been linked to an increased risk of lung, mouth, throat, and tongue cancer as well as an increased risk of heart attack. And of course there are many more negative side effects, but those are specifically ones that can directly kill you. That's why many people who want marijuana legalized only want it legalized for the sick or elderly; for the young and healthy the risks outweigh the benefits.
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Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:55 am
LorienLlewellyn Valgex No, I would love to hear the permanent effects that lead to suffering and then death please. Marijuana use has been linked to an increased risk of lung, mouth, throat, and tongue cancer as well as an increased risk of heart attack. And of course there are many more negative side effects, but those are specifically ones that can directly kill you. That's why many people who want marijuana legalized only want it legalized for the sick or elderly; for the young and healthy the risks outweigh the benefits. If you smoke it in joint form, those risks are caused because of the Co2 and extreme that enters your body. If you smoke using a vaporizer, where it filters out the Co2 and cuts the heat in half, you only get the THC, thus dramatically reduces or prevents and possibility of cancer. Besides, what doesn't give you cancer? Oh, what are these other side effects that can kill you? These days...Those junk food snacks people eat are more likely to give you cancer than Cannabis, because of the preservatives and additives they put in them. Kojima Shiro Well, first off. The way he got in that situation was pot. Now, that I disagree with. I support legalizing pot and I am not a pot head. In fact my brother's life got ******** over because of pot. So, I know very well the bad that comes from it. But, one thing reason it screwed his life up is cause he started a young age. Marijuana though can help alot of people who suffer from many diseases or chronic illness. I mean hell where I am Salvia is legalized and that is freaking organic Acid. Weed doesn't cause destruction or take as many lives as Cigs and Alcohol. I mean there should be limits and stuff. Like not till 21. But, seriously Ciggarettes do not help anything. Most people do it because it realizes stress. Which is not true it just stores it up and becomes worse. Weed Is less damaging and really is a better relaxing stress reliever. I could go on but, to tired. Now, the cop. It is just sick. Corruption. It's disgusting and in every damn county. Sort of agree, sort of not. I'm glad you support it and your right, your not a pot head if you do. Many that don't want it legalized is because they won't do it, so why legalize it? I hate that excuse and it isn't a good enough of one, because many are not going to use that government health care, only like 30 million needed it and we have over 300 million in this country. Salvia is legal in the states to and it's just as harmless as Marijuana, except it makes you actually hallucinate, where Marijuana, from what I've experience, doesn't. People have been hurt while using Salvia because well, they think something might be trying to get them. XD. The last part, Marijuana hasn't taken lives from using it, but has because people fight over it to either obtain it or prevent it from being obtain like in this story I posted. (P.S) Did anyone take a look at the videos I posted? I'm still in the look out for non-propaganda, official and formal videos against Marijuana. But surprisingly it is hard, cause most news stations seem to out weigh the bad with the good.
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Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:53 pm
Well, If it was legalized this situation wouldn't happen neither would drug lord Violence.
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Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:06 pm
Kojima Shiro Well, If it was legalized this situation wouldn't happen neither would drug lord Violence. Exactly! Cause Marijuana is the #1 use illegal substance and Cartels #1 cash crop, you take that away from them and you've nearly ruined them.
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Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:15 pm
True but they wouldn't get violent over it. Just means hard drugs will go up in price.
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Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:20 pm
Kojima Shiro True but they wouldn't get violent over it. Just means hard drugs will go up in price. Hard drugs will go up in price, but they will have little customers, for most only stick with Marijuana(Cannabis) which is a Herb. The Cartels will virtually go out of business when it comes to deals with the U.S
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Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:53 pm
I believe that cannabis should only be used in the case of a prescription given by a doctor.
Because, as you've been saying, it's for pain, right? Then go to the doctor and get a prescription.
I don't think the problem that we have with the weed violence is just going to stop if it's totally legalized and it's sold in stores.
I DO think it's dangerous. What happens when you smoke it? You get high. It's illegal to be high and/or intoxicated while driving, and that is a perfectly good and safe law. Why is it illegal? Because it causes danger to other people, as well as the user. It's the screwed up depth-perception.
Yes, of course cigarettes and alcohol can cause cancer and death. But they weren't always legal, like the Prohibition Act!
By the way, junk food does not cause cancer. =/ Yes, junk food can cause obesity which leads to death, but junk food doesn't cause cancer, and obesity is a totally different argument.
I don't think the point of smoking weed being "FUN" is a valid excuse to get it legalized. Politics and law isn't fun. It's about safety.
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Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:09 pm
lavender opheliac I believe that cannabis should only be used in the case of a prescription given by a doctor. Because, as you've been saying, it's for pain, right? Then go to the doctor and get a prescription. I don't think the problem that we have with the weed violence is just going to stop if it's totally legalized and it's sold in stores. I DO think it's dangerous. What happens when you smoke it? You get high. It's illegal to be high and/or intoxicated while driving, and that is a perfectly good and safe law. Why is it illegal? Because it causes danger to other people, as well as the user. It's the screwed up depth-perception. Yes, of course cigarettes and alcohol can cause cancer and death. But they weren't always legal, like the Prohibition Act! By the way, junk food does not cause cancer. =/ Yes, junk food can cause obesity which leads to death, but junk food doesn't cause cancer, and obesity is a totally different argument. I don't think the point of smoking weed being "FUN" is a valid excuse to get it legalized. Politics and law isn't fun. It's about safety. Oh, no, no. Junk Food causes stomach cancer. I've read studies and watch news reports on it. It doesn't just cause obesity, is has actually killed people. Marijuana doesn't effect your depth-perception, it effects your reaction time, it gets reduced while your high. I've been there. However, unlike being drunk, your more in control of your actions. You don't have to tell a high person not to drive, cause most intelligent stoners know they can't and they won't, but drunks. They'll almost always drive if they have to. Let me know when you find the statistics of how many stoner accidents were caused and also make sure it is far more than drunk accidents, cause you won't. Alcohol has caused far more accidents then people who are high from Cannabis. There is proof for you about Weed and Driving>>>> Weed And DrivingIn all honesty, I'd be too afraid to drive high, especially at night. I get active more when I am, but when it comes to things like that, count me out. I'll do the dishes, do yard work, go on a walk, but not that. I have yet to try swimming yet, maybe in the future... XD
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Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:44 pm
I've never once heard that junk food causes stomach cancer. Citations please? 3nodding
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