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 Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 5:45 pm
Interesting. That reminds me almost of a mix Egyptian lore and well...purgatory.
How long ago was that? I'll let Lucid drop in on the Egyptian influence, if any.
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:24 pm
Lateralus es Helica Interesting. That reminds me almost of a mix Egyptian lore and well...purgatory. How long ago was that? I'll let Lucid drop in on the Egyptian influence, if any. It just says Ancient Iranian Lore. That's all it gives me. I'll do some internet research for exact dates and get back with you.
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:56 pm
i will get back to this, i am glad to find it. >.>
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:45 am
In Judeaism and Christianity death's entrance is due to disobedience. Both Eve and Adam sinned (disobeyed) God, and were taken out of the Garden of Eden lest they eat of the Tree of Life (which can be taken as eternal life).
This is found in Genesis chapter three.
However, Death is only given a personality later on in the Bible. At first it is an office appointed to an Angel, that eventually becomes a sort of quasi spiritual principality in the New Testament.
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:06 pm
This is probably not of any specific belief system, but I believe we die simply because we are physical- All things that are physical are "flawed" or "corrupted"- We are the corrupted version of God, in a way. Here's the story, to put it in chronological order-
God was a zero-dimensional singularity. When God created the universe, he expanded into dimensionality and "corrupted" from an unchangeable force or pure soul (Which still exists as it was and always will be) and created, from his infinity, the physical universe. It started as spirit, then energy, then plasma, then matter. This matter is an imperfect reflection of God, the Body of God. Because it is imperfect, it is impermanent. It dies, it changes form and phase.
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 4:48 pm
ya know... many Pagan Mythologies had some kind of God or Goddess who kept the Dead and sorted them according to the Moral Worthe of their Lives. these Deities were usually the rulers of Realms which were Underworlds named after them. so, it could be said that Death is usually interpreted as being both a Place and a Being who Represents that Place.
just wanted to mention that.
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:49 pm
pantherdor Lateralus es Helica Interesting. That reminds me almost of a mix Egyptian lore and well...purgatory. How long ago was that? I'll let Lucid drop in on the Egyptian influence, if any. It just says Ancient Iranian Lore. That's all it gives me. I'll do some internet research for exact dates and get back with you. I would say that is Zoroastrianism. An especially good study for anyone who believes in any of the Abramic faiths. The writings of those religions are all sprung from the earlier Sumerian mythologies, also good studies for those who adhere to Christianity, Judaic, or Islamic faiths. I will go and see if I can find a good online translate of some of those mythologies.
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:17 pm
Eltanin Sadachbia pantherdor Lateralus es Helica Interesting. That reminds me almost of a mix Egyptian lore and well...purgatory. How long ago was that? I'll let Lucid drop in on the Egyptian influence, if any. It just says Ancient Iranian Lore. That's all it gives me. I'll do some internet research for exact dates and get back with you. I would say that is Zoroastrianism. An especially good study for anyone who believes in any of the Abramic faiths. The writings of those religions are all sprung from the earlier Sumerian mythologies, also good studies for those who adhere to Christianity, Judaic, or Islamic faiths. I will go and see if I can find a good online translate of some of those mythologies. :has a copy of the Necronomicon, which has some info about the Sumerian gods and mythology, but realy only enough for starting points.:
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:22 pm
Quote: In Sumerian and Babylonian mythology, Adamu was the first man. The gods tricked Adamu and his descendants out of immortality - not wanting man to be immortal like the gods - by telling him that the magic food of eternal life was poisonous to him, and as such Adamu didn't eat it and so didn't become immortal. In a super gross over-simplification of the Sumerian myth of creation and immortality, the gods created Adamu (Adapa) and Eva to be their servants. The Gods wanted to keep their servants happily bound to their servitude, but EA (Enki) did not agree with how the new servants were being treated, so he enlightened them by telling them what was going on; you know, the tree of knowledge and all that.... EA, the good guy of that myth has been converted to a bad guy (Satan) in the modern versions we quote today. Yet in the flood myth of the Sumerians, it is EA who warns Gilgamesh of the impending disaster and saves humanity. Almost all myths can find foundational elements within the Sumerian mythos. Like EA is the earlier counterpart of Neptune/Poseidon, Osiris, and Shiva to name some of the more notables.
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:37 pm
Eltanin Sadachbia Quote: In Sumerian and Babylonian mythology, Adamu was the first man. The gods tricked Adamu and his descendants out of immortality - not wanting man to be immortal like the gods - by telling him that the magic food of eternal life was poisonous to him, and as such Adamu didn't eat it and so didn't become immortal. In a super gross over-simplification of the Sumerian myth of creation and immortality, the gods created Adamu (Adapa) and Eva to be their servants. The Gods wanted to keep their servants happily bound to their servitude, but EA (Enki) did not agree with how the new servants were being treated, so he enlightened them by telling them what was going on; you know, the tree of knowledge and all that.... EA, the good guy of that myth has been converted to a bad guy (Satan) in the modern versions we quote today. Yet in the flood myth of the Sumerians, it is EA who warns Gilgamesh of the impending disaster and saves humanity. Almost all myths can find foundational elements within the Sumerian mythos. Like EA is the earlier counterpart of Neptune/Poseidon, Osiris, and Shiva to name some of the more notables. ah, hurray for knowledge! ^.^ you are quite aware.
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:49 pm
*clappy icon that doesn't exist*
I like me some knowledge. LOL
Anyway, I always loved going back to roots. I remember reading Zachariah Stitchin's books and being appalled by some of the gross misrepresentations he subscribes to and has himself purported... Yet, I have all of his books BECAUSE they offered me new things to look at and question. I learned allot by finding disproof of many of his claims. LOL
I also have to give him a thanks for sparking global interest in Sumerian Mythos. Even if he does do it wrong. It makes it easy to find trustworthy books in the store, but hard to find honest articles online because of all the half-learned nutcases offering their take on Stitchin's sudo-religion.
Anyway, I guess that is just my round about way of warning anyone who feels interested in researching further any topics on Sumerian mythology to quadruple-check your sources.
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:10 pm
Chieftain Twilight Eltanin Sadachbia pantherdor Lateralus es Helica Interesting. That reminds me almost of a mix Egyptian lore and well...purgatory. How long ago was that? I'll let Lucid drop in on the Egyptian influence, if any. It just says Ancient Iranian Lore. That's all it gives me. I'll do some internet research for exact dates and get back with you. I would say that is Zoroastrianism. An especially good study for anyone who believes in any of the Abramic faiths. The writings of those religions are all sprung from the earlier Sumerian mythologies, also good studies for those who adhere to Christianity, Judaic, or Islamic faiths. I will go and see if I can find a good online translate of some of those mythologies. :has a copy of the Necronomicon, which has some info about the Sumerian gods and mythology, but realy only enough for starting points.: The Necronomicon is a fictional book, not that I'm sure it doesn't have interesting information but it and the "Mad Arab" were created by Lovecraft for his whole Cthulu mythos. I wouldn't use that as a source at all for concrete information considering that.
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:25 pm
Eltanin Sadachbia *clappy icon that doesn't exist* I like me some knowledge. LOL Anyway, I always loved going back to roots. I remember reading Zachariah Stitchin's books and being appalled by some of the gross misrepresentations he subscribes to and has himself purported... Yet, I have all of his books BECAUSE they offered me new things to look at and question. I learned allot by finding disproof of many of his claims. LOL I also have to give him a thanks for sparking global interest in Sumerian Mythos. Even if he does do it wrong. It makes it easy to find trustworthy books in the store, but hard to find honest articles online because of all the half-learned nutcases offering their take on Stitchin's sudo-religion. Anyway, I guess that is just my round about way of warning anyone who feels interested in researching further any topics on Sumerian mythology to quadruple-check your sources. about Zechariah Stitchin: my sentiments exactly! xd
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:29 pm
Lateralus es Helica Chieftain Twilight Eltanin Sadachbia pantherdor Lateralus es Helica Interesting. That reminds me almost of a mix Egyptian lore and well...purgatory. How long ago was that? I'll let Lucid drop in on the Egyptian influence, if any. It just says Ancient Iranian Lore. That's all it gives me. I'll do some internet research for exact dates and get back with you. I would say that is Zoroastrianism. An especially good study for anyone who believes in any of the Abramic faiths. The writings of those religions are all sprung from the earlier Sumerian mythologies, also good studies for those who adhere to Christianity, Judaic, or Islamic faiths. I will go and see if I can find a good online translate of some of those mythologies. :has a copy of the Necronomicon, which has some info about the Sumerian gods and mythology, but realy only enough for starting points.: The Necronomicon is a fictional book, not that I'm sure it doesn't have interesting information but it and the "Mad Arab" were created by Lovecraft for his whole Cthulu mythos. I wouldn't use that as a source at all for concrete information considering that. wrong, dear. there is, in fact, a book which is a published translation of a text which is a Greek translation of an Arabic text, which has as it's Title, "Necronomicon". it is nothing at all like the fictional evil book which H.P. Lovecraft describes, it is rather an ancient Grimoire. it has relevance primarily to the Moon-Based Religions of the Middle East predating the Kurdish Religions.
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:13 am
Hm... No one has posted about Hades/Pluto. I'm kind of suprised! I'll have to go find the actual myths now!
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