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 Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:02 pm
Okay, that clears things up. After all, seasons aren't caused by culture or anything human; if Japan and the U.S. are in the same hemisphere, shouldn't they have the same seasonal changes?
...That still doesn't explain what havishanta meant, though. T.T
As for astrology, psychology has demonstrated that people will agree very general/vague personality descriptions fit them "perfectly" if such descriptions are flattering. Though I've gotten very unflattering comments in my astrology profiles before, so I guess it depends on how detailed your report is.
But Barnum said it best: "There's a sucker born every minute." xD There's no scientific/logical/practical basis for astrology - it's just something to appreciate and enjoy.
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:48 am
The only seasonal thing I can think of that Japan has is Tsuyu or the rainy season, usually some time in late May or early June and ends around mid July, but it's still considered summer there when it happens.
Unless the YYH characters live in Hokkaido or something (and I really think we'd notice if they did, with the snow and all) then their seasons would be the same as ours.
With astrology, you have a point there, although it might be true.
There's no scientific basis/evidence for the paranormal either and yet I believe in (some parts) of it, and consider myself a pretty open minded person. Also, I guess there's a part of me that would be annoyed if one's personality was set in stone by their birth date.
I've changed my attitude towards things many times, and as a result parts of my personality have changed. I don't think anyone can go through life without their life changing them at least a bit, and if there was someone like that I'd pity them.
Thanks for the link to the detailed report though.
I guess I have the most fun with astrology when I don't take it seriously.
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:23 pm
Okay, okay. You've done your research. ^^;
I don't know why, but some voice said in my head that Japan and the U.S. had opposing seasons, but I suppose that's not true. Stupidstupid voice. XD
Well, now that that's cleared up...
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:31 pm
Bokusenou The only seasonal thing I can think of that Japan has is Tsuyu or the rainy season, usually some time in late May or early June and ends around mid July, but it's still considered summer there when it happens. Unless the YYH characters live in Hokkaido or something (and I really think we'd notice if they did, with the snow and all) then their seasons would be the same as ours. With astrology, you have a point there, although it might be true. There's no scientific basis/evidence for the paranormal either and yet I believe in (some parts) of it, and consider myself a pretty open minded person. Also, I guess there's a part of me that would be annoyed if one's personality was set in stone by their birth date. I've changed my attitude towards things many times, and as a result parts of my personality have changed. I don't think anyone can go through life without their life changing them at least a bit, and if there was someone like that I'd pity them. Thanks for the link to the detailed report though. I guess I have the most fun with astrology when I don't take it seriously.
However, psychology shows that we have a set temperament - a level of emotional reactivity - from birth. While that is but one aspect of personality, it does hold sway over other attributes as well.
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 3:12 pm
Bokusenou WyndiWingfall Astrology is one of my secret obsessions [which is strange, considering I also have a deep fondness for its scientific counterpart, astronomy].
If you are interested in a more extensive [and therefore hopefully more accurate] astrology profile, may I direct you to the free one at Café Astrology located here? Thanks! I'm not that into astrology but I do dabble in it for fun from time to time. Edit: Read it. While some of it is is really right, some of it seems off or even contradicting...often if seems as if it's talking about me during my teenage angst phase. It was definitely interesting though. InkMistress, yes they have summer vacation but it starts on July 20thDammit. I've done it wrong. >.> I totally put summer vacation a month too early.
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:57 pm
WyndiWingfall Bokusenou The only seasonal thing I can think of that Japan has is Tsuyu or the rainy season, usually some time in late May or early June and ends around mid July, but it's still considered summer there when it happens. Unless the YYH characters live in Hokkaido or something (and I really think we'd notice if they did, with the snow and all) then their seasons would be the same as ours. With astrology, you have a point there, although it might be true. There's no scientific basis/evidence for the paranormal either and yet I believe in (some parts) of it, and consider myself a pretty open minded person. Also, I guess there's a part of me that would be annoyed if one's personality was set in stone by their birth date. I've changed my attitude towards things many times, and as a result parts of my personality have changed. I don't think anyone can go through life without their life changing them at least a bit, and if there was someone like that I'd pity them. Thanks for the link to the detailed report though. I guess I have the most fun with astrology when I don't take it seriously.
However, psychology shows that we have a set temperament - a level of emotional reactivity - from birth. While that is but one aspect of personality, it does hold sway over other attributes as well.No, it's fun. xd I love doing the same as long as people don't start yelling about things (then I run), but you're a very civil person when it comes to these things so I think I'll oblige. smile Since I didn't know much about temperaments before hand, I did a bit of research on the topic. I assume you referred to the Four Temperaments of Psychology. I'm usually kind of sceptical of any test with "personality types" like Myers-Briggs, Keirsey and all that because while I usually agree with the basic types themselves, further descriptions of "my type" mostly don't seem to describe me, like one of them said my type loved to be a leader, while I'm much happier working in the background, researching and planning things rather than leading, thus I've had about as much luck with them as I've had with astrology. sweatdrop When I think of a "temperament"or "emotional reactivity" I think of a person's general mood, say "docile" or "aggressive" and the dictionary definition seems to say just that, but temperaments (unless I'm defining it wrong) can change. A setback can make a happy, friendly person silent and morose, mainly changes in temperament happen after major changes in someone's life, but they still have a chance of happening.
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:52 pm
Yay! Discussion about psychology! [But before I dive right in - I've only taken an AP Psych course in high school, which means I have a very limited understanding as a whole. I'm not an expert in anything, so most of what I'm saying is generalized.]
When I was referring to temperaments, no, I didn't mean personality-type temperaments. I simply meant emotional reactivity, not a complicated psychological definition of the term. Besides, didn't I already state that personality is changeable? I would've been contradicting myself if I had said that temperament was set from birth. xD
Not that I don't contradict myself often, but...
So, I'll just quote selectively from my AP Psych textbook [Psychology, 8th ed., by David G. Myers]: "abies differ even before gulping their first breath....An infant's temperament is its emotional excitability - whether reactive, intense, and fidgety, or easygoing, quiet, and placid. From the first weeks of life, difficult babies are more irritable, intense, and unpredictable. Easy babies are cheerful, relaxed, and predictable in feeding and sleeping....Exceptionally inhibited and fearful 2-year-olds often are still relatively shy as 8-year-olds; about half will become introverted adolescents" (102).
Temperament is not personality [well, it sort of is]; it's how we react to situations. Temperament is biologically and genetically rooted - "anxious, inhibted infants have high and variable heart rates and a reactive nervous system, and...they become more physiologically aroused when facing new or strange situations" (102).
Hope that helps.
Speaking of the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator, however, I've found it to be at least somewhat accurate applying to me. [I'm an INTP, by the way - may I ask what your type is?] Each type has a certain amount of leeway depending on how the person's developed in his/her environment, so the idea of a test that can perfectly define someone is ridiculous anyways.
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:56 am
WyndiWingfall
Speaking of the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator, however, I've found it to be at least somewhat accurate applying to me. [I'm an INTP, by the way - may I ask what your type is?] Each type has a certain amount of leeway depending on how the person's developed in his/her environment, so the idea of a test that can perfectly define someone is ridiculous anyways.The Myer-Briggs Type Indicator worked WONDERS for me. It describes me perfectly at each stage in my life! I am INFP. : ) Dude, we should take the quizzes RPing as the YYH characters and see what theirs are. That would be so much fun! (And helpful for fanfiction writers. : P)
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:41 pm
havishanta WyndiWingfall
Speaking of the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator, however, I've found it to be at least somewhat accurate applying to me. [I'm an INTP, by the way - may I ask what your type is?] Each type has a certain amount of leeway depending on how the person's developed in his/her environment, so the idea of a test that can perfectly define someone is ridiculous anyways.The Myer-Briggs Type Indicator worked WONDERS for me. It describes me perfectly at each stage in my life! I am INFP. : ) Dude, we should take the quizzes RPing as the YYH characters and see what theirs are. That would be so much fun! (And helpful for fanfiction writers. : P)
As for finding out the YYH characters' types - I'm all for it, but it'd be rather hard to do. There's only so much we know about the characters, and that's limiting all by itself. It wouldn't be very accurate, as each person interprets each character differently. T.T
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Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:36 am
WyndiWingfall havishanta WyndiWingfall
Speaking of the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator, however, I've found it to be at least somewhat accurate applying to me. [I'm an INTP, by the way - may I ask what your type is?] Each type has a certain amount of leeway depending on how the person's developed in his/her environment, so the idea of a test that can perfectly define someone is ridiculous anyways.The Myer-Briggs Type Indicator worked WONDERS for me. It describes me perfectly at each stage in my life! I am INFP. : ) Dude, we should take the quizzes RPing as the YYH characters and see what theirs are. That would be so much fun! (And helpful for fanfiction writers. : P)
As for finding out the YYH characters' types - I'm all for it, but it'd be rather hard to do. There's only so much we know about the characters, and that's limiting all by itself. It wouldn't be very accurate, as each person interprets each character differently. T.TINFP: Introverted iNtuitive Feeling Perceiving Haha, they got me down SO well. Especially with my openness. (I have an 86% raw percentage of openness higher than other respondents.) And yes, different interpretations would make things rather...difficult. Bahaha! XD Especially for the type of questions they ask.
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Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:14 pm
havishanta WyndiWingfall havishanta WyndiWingfall
Speaking of the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator, however, I've found it to be at least somewhat accurate applying to me. [I'm an INTP, by the way - may I ask what your type is?] Each type has a certain amount of leeway depending on how the person's developed in his/her environment, so the idea of a test that can perfectly define someone is ridiculous anyways.The Myer-Briggs Type Indicator worked WONDERS for me. It describes me perfectly at each stage in my life! I am INFP. : ) Dude, we should take the quizzes RPing as the YYH characters and see what theirs are. That would be so much fun! (And helpful for fanfiction writers. : P)
As for finding out the YYH characters' types - I'm all for it, but it'd be rather hard to do. There's only so much we know about the characters, and that's limiting all by itself. It wouldn't be very accurate, as each person interprets each character differently. T.TINFP: Introverted iNtuitive Feeling Perceiving Haha, they got me down SO well. Especially with my openness. (I have an 86% raw percentage of openness higher than other respondents.) And yes, different interpretations would make things rather...difficult. Bahaha! XD Especially for the type of questions they ask.
Yeah, MBTI can be extremely subjective at points. I mean, there's already a degree of inaccuracy because you're assuming that people will label themselves objectively and accurately. For example, I think I'm extroverted at times - it really depends on my mood - but almost everyone I talk to says I'm deathly quiet.
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 10:12 am
WyndiWingfall havishanta WyndiWingfall havishanta WyndiWingfall
Speaking of the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator, however, I've found it to be at least somewhat accurate applying to me. [I'm an INTP, by the way - may I ask what your type is?] Each type has a certain amount of leeway depending on how the person's developed in his/her environment, so the idea of a test that can perfectly define someone is ridiculous anyways.The Myer-Briggs Type Indicator worked WONDERS for me. It describes me perfectly at each stage in my life! I am INFP. : ) Dude, we should take the quizzes RPing as the YYH characters and see what theirs are. That would be so much fun! (And helpful for fanfiction writers. : P)
As for finding out the YYH characters' types - I'm all for it, but it'd be rather hard to do. There's only so much we know about the characters, and that's limiting all by itself. It wouldn't be very accurate, as each person interprets each character differently. T.TINFP: Introverted iNtuitive Feeling Perceiving Haha, they got me down SO well. Especially with my openness. (I have an 86% raw percentage of openness higher than other respondents.) And yes, different interpretations would make things rather...difficult. Bahaha! XD Especially for the type of questions they ask.
Yeah, MBTI can be extremely subjective at points. I mean, there's already a degree of inaccuracy because you're assuming that people will label themselves objectively and accurately. For example, I think I'm extroverted at times - it really depends on my mood - but almost everyone I talk to says I'm deathly quiet.My personality can change dramatically depending on my mood, so, that makes things rather interesting. Though I've still remained INFP, strangely enough. The only thing that changes is my Neuroticism. Hmmm...this will required a combined effort! We must share answers with one another, checking that we are all in agreement in interpretation, and thus come up with the most accurate depiction of the YYH characters EVER.
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:47 pm
havishanta WyndiWingfall havishanta WyndiWingfall havishanta WyndiWingfall
Speaking of the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator, however, I've found it to be at least somewhat accurate applying to me. [I'm an INTP, by the way - may I ask what your type is?] Each type has a certain amount of leeway depending on how the person's developed in his/her environment, so the idea of a test that can perfectly define someone is ridiculous anyways.The Myer-Briggs Type Indicator worked WONDERS for me. It describes me perfectly at each stage in my life! I am INFP. : ) Dude, we should take the quizzes RPing as the YYH characters and see what theirs are. That would be so much fun! (And helpful for fanfiction writers. : P)
As for finding out the YYH characters' types - I'm all for it, but it'd be rather hard to do. There's only so much we know about the characters, and that's limiting all by itself. It wouldn't be very accurate, as each person interprets each character differently. T.TINFP: Introverted iNtuitive Feeling Perceiving Haha, they got me down SO well. Especially with my openness. (I have an 86% raw percentage of openness higher than other respondents.) And yes, different interpretations would make things rather...difficult. Bahaha! XD Especially for the type of questions they ask.
Yeah, MBTI can be extremely subjective at points. I mean, there's already a degree of inaccuracy because you're assuming that people will label themselves objectively and accurately. For example, I think I'm extroverted at times - it really depends on my mood - but almost everyone I talk to says I'm deathly quiet.My personality can change dramatically depending on my mood, so, that makes things rather interesting. Though I've still remained INFP, strangely enough. The only thing that changes is my Neuroticism. Hmmm...this will required a combined effort! We must share answers with one another, checking that we are all in agreement in interpretation, and thus come up with the most accurate depiction of the YYH characters EVER.
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:43 pm
Wyndi, Ah ok, that explains it.
INTJ (this time)...But I've gotten different ones at different times in my life...most often switching between INTJ and INTP randomly whenever I take the test. sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:21 am
I always find it interesting that most people I talk to online share similar personality types. I don't know if it's just because I tend to relate more easily to people who are similar to me, or whether similar personality types tend to frequent the same places or websites. For example, INTP females are supposedly relatively very rare [making up about 3% of the population], but I've found several on the sites I go to.
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