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 Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:45 pm
Burn_Up i'm opposed to homosexual marriage because marriage is a religious institution and it is against my religion... i dont have any problems with homosexuals however, there are other religions, and i am not an expert many of them, so thats why i am not writing legislature
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:52 pm
As far I as I have learned and understand it, the point of marriage is to ensure the patronage of children, to pass on the man's name, and in a way to control women. Later on it was used as a means to gain power and wealth. Based on that side of the argument, I don't see the point in gay marriage. However, nowadays those sorts of things are not necessary and marriage is about love. If two people love one another then why not? You know?
As for the whole religious part, my personal opinion is that being gay is not a choice or lifestyle. You are either born gay or you are not. Therefore, I do not see how any god can be against gay marriage when it is previously instilled in his creations? Even if the Bible does say it is wrong.
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:00 pm
shadowflameguardian As far I as I have learned and understand it, the point of marriage is to ensure the patronage of children, to pass on the man's name, and in a way to control women. Later on it was used as a means to gain power and wealth. Based on that side of the argument, I don't see the point in gay marriage. However, nowadays those sorts of things are not necessary and marriage is about love. If two people love one another then why not? You know? As for the whole religious part, my personal opinion is that being gay is not a choice or lifestyle. You are either born gay or you are not. Therefore, I do not see how any god can be against gay marriage when it is previously instilled in his creations? Even if the Bible does say it is wrong.
Homosexuality has NOT been deemed evil by Christianity in the Bible. I should know because the debate has been brought up 5 times in this guild. XD
The only things that have been used is Levitcus and a quote from the reproduction section.
Levitcus: Levitcus applies to Judaism and isn't exactly followed too well anymore in the first placed.
Reproduction section: This section was in the Bible explaining on how if a man laid with another man as he would with a woman, it was considered unclean.
However, this was tossed when the passage could have been translated into many other meanings. Not to mention it applies to homosexual SEX and not homosexuality in general.
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Not exactly, homosexuality isn't exactly a choice but you aren't born with it either. It is just a preference you are more adjusted to, whether it be the same or opposing gender. It is not proven, and possibly disproven, that homosexuality is something you are born with.
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:02 pm
Burn_Up i'm opposed to homosexual marriage because marriage is a religious institution and it is against my religion... i dont have any problems with homosexuals
Think about it, I'm an atheist. Should I not be allowed to marry because I don't have a religion?
And whatever religion you belong to, homosexuality probably isn't against it.
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:14 pm
Captain_Shinzo shadowflameguardian As far I as I have learned and understand it, the point of marriage is to ensure the patronage of children, to pass on the man's name, and in a way to control women. Later on it was used as a means to gain power and wealth. Based on that side of the argument, I don't see the point in gay marriage. However, nowadays those sorts of things are not necessary and marriage is about love. If two people love one another then why not? You know? As for the whole religious part, my personal opinion is that being gay is not a choice or lifestyle. You are either born gay or you are not. Therefore, I do not see how any god can be against gay marriage when it is previously instilled in his creations? Even if the Bible does say it is wrong.
Homosexuality has NOT been deemed evil by Christianity in the Bible. I should know because the debate has been brought up 5 times in this guild. XD
The only things that have been used is Levitcus and a quote from the reproduction section.
Levitcus: Levitcus applies to Judaism and isn't exactly followed too well anymore in the first placed.
Reproduction section: This section was in the Bible explaining on how if a man laid with another man as he would with a woman, it was considered unclean.
However, this was tossed when the passage could have been translated into many other meanings. Not to mention it applies to homosexual SEX and not homosexuality in general.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Not exactly, homosexuality isn't exactly a choice but you aren't born with it either. It is just a preference you are more adjusted to, whether it be the same or opposing gender. It is not proven, and possibly disproven, that homosexuality is something you are born with.I would assume that if he said something was unclean, then in a way he is also against it. I have seen scientific articles that both support and disprove that homosexuality is a choice. My Personal opinion is that it is not.
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:22 pm
shadowflameguardian Captain_Shinzo shadowflameguardian As far I as I have learned and understand it, the point of marriage is to ensure the patronage of children, to pass on the man's name, and in a way to control women. Later on it was used as a means to gain power and wealth. Based on that side of the argument, I don't see the point in gay marriage. However, nowadays those sorts of things are not necessary and marriage is about love. If two people love one another then why not? You know? As for the whole religious part, my personal opinion is that being gay is not a choice or lifestyle. You are either born gay or you are not. Therefore, I do not see how any god can be against gay marriage when it is previously instilled in his creations? Even if the Bible does say it is wrong.
Homosexuality has NOT been deemed evil by Christianity in the Bible. I should know because the debate has been brought up 5 times in this guild. XD
The only things that have been used is Levitcus and a quote from the reproduction section.
Levitcus: Levitcus applies to Judaism and isn't exactly followed too well anymore in the first placed.
Reproduction section: This section was in the Bible explaining on how if a man laid with another man as he would with a woman, it was considered unclean.
However, this was tossed when the passage could have been translated into many other meanings. Not to mention it applies to homosexual SEX and not homosexuality in general.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Not exactly, homosexuality isn't exactly a choice but you aren't born with it either. It is just a preference you are more adjusted to, whether it be the same or opposing gender. It is not proven, and possibly disproven, that homosexuality is something you are born with.I would assume that if he said something was unclean, then in a way he is also against it. I have seen scientific articles that both support and disprove that homosexuality is a choice. My Personal opinion is that it is not.
For example, being unclean may be referring to that of men not being able to give birth. That may be why it is not said to be a sin.
Both support and disprove? Sounds like they are bi-scientific. XD If you both approve and deny of something, you are obviously confused and unsure of it.
Personal opinion and actual fact are two of different things. However, I am understandable of the situation considering there is not EXACTLY any big evidence out there.
I sure there is some evidence but you might have to actually dig it up then find it upon the ground.
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:22 pm
shadowflameguardian Captain_Shinzo shadowflameguardian As far I as I have learned and understand it, the point of marriage is to ensure the patronage of children, to pass on the man's name, and in a way to control women. Later on it was used as a means to gain power and wealth. Based on that side of the argument, I don't see the point in gay marriage. However, nowadays those sorts of things are not necessary and marriage is about love. If two people love one another then why not? You know? As for the whole religious part, my personal opinion is that being gay is not a choice or lifestyle. You are either born gay or you are not. Therefore, I do not see how any god can be against gay marriage when it is previously instilled in his creations? Even if the Bible does say it is wrong.
Homosexuality has NOT been deemed evil by Christianity in the Bible. I should know because the debate has been brought up 5 times in this guild. XD
The only things that have been used is Levitcus and a quote from the reproduction section.
Levitcus: Levitcus applies to Judaism and isn't exactly followed too well anymore in the first placed.
Reproduction section: This section was in the Bible explaining on how if a man laid with another man as he would with a woman, it was considered unclean.
However, this was tossed when the passage could have been translated into many other meanings. Not to mention it applies to homosexual SEX and not homosexuality in general.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Not exactly, homosexuality isn't exactly a choice but you aren't born with it either. It is just a preference you are more adjusted to, whether it be the same or opposing gender. It is not proven, and possibly disproven, that homosexuality is something you are born with.I would assume that if he said something was unclean, then in a way he is also against it. I have seen scientific articles that both support and disprove that homosexuality is a choice. My Personal opinion is that it is not.
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:25 pm
brainnsoup shadowflameguardian Captain_Shinzo shadowflameguardian As far I as I have learned and understand it, the point of marriage is to ensure the patronage of children, to pass on the man's name, and in a way to control women. Later on it was used as a means to gain power and wealth. Based on that side of the argument, I don't see the point in gay marriage. However, nowadays those sorts of things are not necessary and marriage is about love. If two people love one another then why not? You know? As for the whole religious part, my personal opinion is that being gay is not a choice or lifestyle. You are either born gay or you are not. Therefore, I do not see how any god can be against gay marriage when it is previously instilled in his creations? Even if the Bible does say it is wrong.
Homosexuality has NOT been deemed evil by Christianity in the Bible. I should know because the debate has been brought up 5 times in this guild. XD
The only things that have been used is Levitcus and a quote from the reproduction section.
Levitcus: Levitcus applies to Judaism and isn't exactly followed too well anymore in the first placed.
Reproduction section: This section was in the Bible explaining on how if a man laid with another man as he would with a woman, it was considered unclean.
However, this was tossed when the passage could have been translated into many other meanings. Not to mention it applies to homosexual SEX and not homosexuality in general.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Not exactly, homosexuality isn't exactly a choice but you aren't born with it either. It is just a preference you are more adjusted to, whether it be the same or opposing gender. It is not proven, and possibly disproven, that homosexuality is something you are born with.I would assume that if he said something was unclean, then in a way he is also against it. I have seen scientific articles that both support and disprove that homosexuality is a choice. My Personal opinion is that it is not. I'm not sure if it IS Leviticus. I thought it was a section on reproduction within the Bible. * I really need to read that big a** book one day. XD * I assume it is though, considering it is unfamiliar.
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:38 pm
Captain_Shinzo shadowflameguardian Captain_Shinzo shadowflameguardian As far I as I have learned and understand it, the point of marriage is to ensure the patronage of children, to pass on the man's name, and in a way to control women. Later on it was used as a means to gain power and wealth. Based on that side of the argument, I don't see the point in gay marriage. However, nowadays those sorts of things are not necessary and marriage is about love. If two people love one another then why not? You know? As for the whole religious part, my personal opinion is that being gay is not a choice or lifestyle. You are either born gay or you are not. Therefore, I do not see how any god can be against gay marriage when it is previously instilled in his creations? Even if the Bible does say it is wrong.
Homosexuality has NOT been deemed evil by Christianity in the Bible. I should know because the debate has been brought up 5 times in this guild. XD
The only things that have been used is Levitcus and a quote from the reproduction section.
Levitcus: Levitcus applies to Judaism and isn't exactly followed too well anymore in the first placed.
Reproduction section: This section was in the Bible explaining on how if a man laid with another man as he would with a woman, it was considered unclean.
However, this was tossed when the passage could have been translated into many other meanings. Not to mention it applies to homosexual SEX and not homosexuality in general.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Not exactly, homosexuality isn't exactly a choice but you aren't born with it either. It is just a preference you are more adjusted to, whether it be the same or opposing gender. It is not proven, and possibly disproven, that homosexuality is something you are born with.I would assume that if he said something was unclean, then in a way he is also against it. I have seen scientific articles that both support and disprove that homosexuality is a choice. My Personal opinion is that it is not.
For example, being unclean may be referring to that of men not being able to give birth. That may be why it is not said to be a sin.
Both support and disprove? Sounds like they are bi-scientific. XD If you both approve and deny of something, you are obviously confused and unsure of it.
Personal opinion and actual fact are two of different things. However, I am understandable of the situation considering there is not EXACTLY any big evidence out there.
I sure there is some evidence but you might have to actually dig it up then find it upon the ground.I am saying that I have found different articles about it, some say it is not a choice and others disagree. They are not saying they support it and disagree with it in the same article.
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:47 am
Leviticus was a field guide to basic health six to ten thousand years ago. They didn't know how to cook and prepare many foods- Shellfish and Pork would kill you if you ate it the way they tried to make it. So, they chalked it up as "Unclean" meat- When really, they simply didn't know how to make it.
The same goes with sexual practice- They supported monogamy because there would be less spread of disease and fewer fatherless children and so forth.
Leviticus has little to nothing to do with actual sin, but is simply a way of not dying with over 5,000 year old technology and medicine.
Also, on the issue of homosexuality be a choice, for anyone who believes it is- Would YOU be able to choose to love someone of the same gender?
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:56 pm
divineseraph Also, on the issue of homosexuality be a choice, for anyone who believes it is- Would YOU be able to choose to love someone of the same gender?
I may have a sexual attraction with women but I feel I may be able to live with a guy. I mean, the sex may be strange but it isn't always about the sex.
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:08 pm
shadowflameguardian Captain_Shinzo shadowflameguardian Captain_Shinzo shadowflameguardian As far I as I have learned and understand it, the point of marriage is to ensure the patronage of children, to pass on the man's name, and in a way to control women. Later on it was used as a means to gain power and wealth. Based on that side of the argument, I don't see the point in gay marriage. However, nowadays those sorts of things are not necessary and marriage is about love. If two people love one another then why not? You know? As for the whole religious part, my personal opinion is that being gay is not a choice or lifestyle. You are either born gay or you are not. Therefore, I do not see how any god can be against gay marriage when it is previously instilled in his creations? Even if the Bible does say it is wrong.
Homosexuality has NOT been deemed evil by Christianity in the Bible. I should know because the debate has been brought up 5 times in this guild. XD
The only things that have been used is Levitcus and a quote from the reproduction section.
Levitcus: Levitcus applies to Judaism and isn't exactly followed too well anymore in the first placed.
Reproduction section: This section was in the Bible explaining on how if a man laid with another man as he would with a woman, it was considered unclean.
However, this was tossed when the passage could have been translated into many other meanings. Not to mention it applies to homosexual SEX and not homosexuality in general.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Not exactly, homosexuality isn't exactly a choice but you aren't born with it either. It is just a preference you are more adjusted to, whether it be the same or opposing gender. It is not proven, and possibly disproven, that homosexuality is something you are born with.I would assume that if he said something was unclean, then in a way he is also against it. I have seen scientific articles that both support and disprove that homosexuality is a choice. My Personal opinion is that it is not.
For example, being unclean may be referring to that of men not being able to give birth. That may be why it is not said to be a sin.
Both support and disprove? Sounds like they are bi-scientific. XD If you both approve and deny of something, you are obviously confused and unsure of it.
Personal opinion and actual fact are two of different things. However, I am understandable of the situation considering there is not EXACTLY any big evidence out there.
I sure there is some evidence but you might have to actually dig it up then find it upon the ground.I am saying that I have found different articles about it, some say it is not a choice and others disagree. They are not saying they support it and disagree with it in the same article.
People have articles saying weed is bad because you can OD on THC but that is complete BS.
All I am saying is, just because it exists doesn't make it great.
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:46 pm
I have to point out, that the main reason it isn't legal is because the majority of the people in (enter state name here) disagree with it, and voted against it. I also feel that I must point out that these are states with large amounts of religious people. ((Texas and Arkansas ninja ))
And, from the drug reference above me...
CRACK IS WHACK, WEED IS WHAT YOU NEED! mrgreen
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:11 pm
Captain_Shinzo divineseraph Also, on the issue of homosexuality be a choice, for anyone who believes it is- Would YOU be able to choose to love someone of the same gender?
I may have a sexual attraction with women but I feel I may be able to live with a guy. I mean, the sex may be strange but it isn't always about the sex.Congratulations, you're bisexual.
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