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Caesura

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:16 pm


Kagerou Osajima
My general philosophy is that I avoid eating animals I wouldn't have the conscience to kill myself.


That's exactly why I became a vegetarian in the first place! My philosophy is, I'd eat it if I killed it myself, but if it's not something I would want to kill myself, I shouldn't eat it. Simple.

This reasoning also makes it a lot easier to field some of the silly questions I get, like: "What if you were starving to death on a desert island and the only thing there was a bunny, would you eat it?"
PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:03 pm


I became a vegetarian about 5 or 6 years ago. It was more of a gradual decision, frankly made with a "why not?" attitude more than anything. I'd never been very interested in meat, and what little I ate was pretty much just the most unhealthy forms of poultry and fish. Only when I'd stopped did I find more reasons to solidify my decision: the details of the creatures living, suffering, and dying in wretched conditions (at least in the country I am living in)... the environmental factors... health risks... etc. It starts off badly in the factory farms themselves, and the suffering just spreads outward from there, with a variety of negative effects. So despite it being a rather passive choice at the beginning, I feel now that the reasons for me to become a vegetarian were far greater than any reason to have continued eating meat. In my case, I really had none for the latter, so I figured, why do it? sweatdrop

That line, Kagerou Osajima: "I avoid eating animals I wouldn't have the conscience to kill myself." It really interests me. More food for thought, no pun intended. smile

Sleepy Gene


Bogwai

PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:41 am


I am not a vegitarian but is there a prayer or something you can do in Buddhism to apologize, justify, etc. before eating meating meat? (somewhat like the prayer said in the morning, I forget the name, where you say a prayer before you step on the ground because you kill insects when you walk) Preferably threvada, which I am most likely deciding on becoming.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:31 pm


Not to bash vegetarians or anything but we as humans are omnivores (sp) which means we are meant to eat both plants and animals. To deny ourself one or the other would go against our nature. Humans are just animals and some animals eat other animals. It's the way of nature.

Now I can see why some people choose not to eat meat because it destroys animal life. The problem is that plants are living things too (and in my personal belief, are spiritually higher than animals). So no matter what we eat we are taking the life of another but we have to eat none the less.

crystal_raye


Caesura

PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:32 pm


crystal_raye
The problem is that plants are living things too (and in my personal belief, are spiritually higher than animals). So no matter what we eat we are taking the life of another but we have to eat none the less.


I don't eat meat not because I don't want to 'take the life of a living thing' but because I don't want to cause unnecessary suffering to another living thing. Having taken several botany classes, I know for a fact that plants do not have brains, nerves, or a central nervous system of any sort and therefore do not have the capacity to feel physical pain or any other sensation. (And since they don't have a brain or indeed any organs, I highly doubt that they endure mental or emotional suffering, at least in the sense that animals can and do.) I could explain in more detail, but as this isn't a vegetarian OR debate forum, I'll spare you all. sweatdrop

I certainly cannot argue the spirituality of plants, though. I think they are amazing organisms and I have a great awe of and respect for them.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:29 pm


I wan't to be vegetarian however making to complete transition all at once is firstly unhealthy and secondly expensive I do pray for the life(ves) that it took to continue my own. I don't believe in hunting at all so venison is out of the question though I assume the same applies to fish but for some reason the ame stigma does not surround fish for me anyways.

Rafael Yggdrasil


Caesura

PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:02 pm


Arcadia Flux
I wan't to be vegetarian however making to complete transition all at once is firstly unhealthy and secondly expensive


I must disagree. I made the transition all at once and found it to be neither unhealthy (as long as you still eat a proper balance of foods) or expensive. Actually, unless you're buying a lot of packaged vegetarian items, things should be much less expensive.

It's certainly your choice whether to eat meat or not, but don't let these misconceptions stop you from trying vegetarianism if otherwise you would. 3nodding
PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:53 pm


There's also a healthy side to this.
If you cut down on meat.. or abandon it all together, you don't have to worry so much about all the diseases being ranted about in the media. Mad cow.. which also occurs in deer and the like... or bird flu. Though I do eat seafood, I do admit it does raise the risk of mercury poisoning slightly because of the damage humans are doing to the environment with their burning of coal and illegal dumping. I guess.. when you look at it that way.. it does feel a bit like karma.

Maryhl

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Vincent III

PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:46 pm


I'm starting to transition to being a vegitarian with my parents and my girlfriend, but I can't handle a full-scale change like that at once. I've always been used to meat, but recently I've been deciding against it for spirtiual reason and the fact I don't like the taste anymore really. The other problem is that im only 110, and im 5'9" and 17 years old. If you know average body weight, that is unhealtly low, so until I get my body to be a bit healtier, I have to eat meat. But im hoping by summer, I should have my body healthy again and convince my parents to let me go full vegitarian.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:50 pm


I don't eat meat, but I do eat seafood. I swore off meat long before I knew anytthing about Buddhism when I learned how badly factory-farm animals were treated from the time they were born until the end of their unfortunate lives when they were finally slaughtered. I can't animal abuse for any reason, and after learning what I did I couldn't in good conscience continue to support the meat industry. So the meat had to go. I do occasionally missed the taste of ham when it's served on Thanksgiving dinner, but for the most part I haven't really missed the meat much.

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Ramacharaka

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:10 pm


I come from more of a Hindu Yoga background, but I'm not vegetarian, specifically because my teacher has taught me, and our lineage holds, that the need for vegetarianism was caused by the karma of the human race as a whole. Now that that karma has been worked out, it is no longer necessary, and really no longer reasonable to be vegetarian in modern society, except in some asian countries. Of course, this is just my belief and what I have been taught, I'm not saying anyone else has to agree with me.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:54 pm


Right now I am not a vegetarian, but I am considering it as an option. However, I think that humans eating animals is like the circle of life. I do believe that for one thing to survive, another has to die. You could take it down to the basic molecules, that when you breathe you take apart the molecules into oxygen. That isn't exactly like killing, but you get my point.

In addition, I find it strange that people underestimate the value of plants, and I believe that they have a spiritual enlightenment about them. I have great respect for them, and would feel bad if I ate so many of them and not as many animals. One of my teachers was saying that broccoli screams, in a way: that when you break off a peice of it, it emits a chemical that tells the other broccoli in the area that there is a predator there. Sadly, they can't run, but it does act like a scream to warn them.

Now, I try and say a little prayer of sorts before I eat meat, thanking the animal that it came from for giving up its life to feed me. I'm bad and usually forget, but I am trying to get better.

Isis of the Black Sands


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Crew

PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:42 am


I was a vegetarian for a year but gave it up. If the animals are already dead, they're already dead. I just wouldn't want one killed specifically for me to eat.
If I don't get meat, I go around fantasising about tearing my teeth into some meat far too much. Crave it. So I'm guessing I need it.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:22 am


bluewolfcub
If I don't get meat, I go around fantasising about tearing my teeth into some meat far too much.
That's foreboding. domokun

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Tenzin Chodron
Crew

PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:42 pm


I'm contemplating going octo-lacto vegetarian. The reason for this is because it's believed in Tibetan Buddhism that one should not eat meat that one has killed themself, because that violates the precept of taking a life. Also, if one knows that someone has gone out and killed something specifically for your dinner, then it's not good to eat that, either. But in the West, we don't have to kill ourselves or ask others to kill for us since the butcher will sell meat anyways, regardless.

So that, in my opinion, makes it alright to eat meat.

But, there is the issue of supply and demand. If you're on that demand list, then there's going to be a supply. So this is why I'm contemplating it. Another factor is that I'm not very young or very old, so I don't need special diets to stay healthy. I can go vegetarian safely.

The only thing preventing me from actually going forward with it is my attachment to the taste. I really enjoy chicken, fish, and even bison.
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