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aghhhhhhhhhh! crying -bangs head on desk- I spent 15 minutes writing that argument out...ughhhhhhhhh...guess I'd better start over

Ingfire, you talk about how how you are not disrespectful. i saw some of the stuff you wrote and that was verry disrespectful. i am a college student, and i have been for the past 2 years, i don't go out drinking until one am or party until dawn, but i am one here having fun with you guys, while studying. i keep a good grade point average and have fun Role Playing with you. in fact, i just got into the nursing program, because of my grades. right now we are all putting our futures at stake, but what fun it is doing it. i love rping, and for you to attack me like that, was definitely disrespectful.

Damn I should've posted that I read it when it came out... Now i feel all awkward about walking in at the middle of this. First off I read it, secondly props to Ingfire, I'm actually in the Marine Corps right now so thumbs up to a fellow US soldier, and a Navy Officer at that. However time management is one of those things that you should work on a bit more, just so you stay active in this guild a bit more. For instance I do pt at like 4am just so it doesn't interfere with my job and/or work, and I still come on here for a few hours each day. As for the disrespect thing, I can't really say much because I'm new, but if someone feels you have disrespected, due to the fact that we are all different and have different views, you should apologize and regain that trust before it severs even more, especially if you didn't mean for any disrespect. I guess that's all I have to say, Zoro out!

wow people

See, this is what I like to see. Someone coming in from one side and seeing both sides of the story. You, my friend, have just gained SOOOOO much respect from me. (Granted, not a military person, never will be, still in High School ((FRESHMAN!)) but I have friends who are going to be in the military, so I'm all for it if they want to go.) And honestly, Ingfire and I have at least one thing in common - GRAMMAR NAZISM! smile

(Edit: Speaking of it, Ing, you have viscously in your post... xD Viscosity is the speed at which a liquid flows -- I feel so smart.)

Kaicho, only thing I have to say about the central 46, and what you all do in their, is to first run it all by me. Such as if you find something in need of punishment, bring it to my attention, so that I know what is going on, and then bring up the punishment.

Ingfire, I have noticed what you did with the pm, you took out somethings you have messaged to enshara, and some of what enshara messaged.
I find what you said rude as well, but what you have said to enshara did not effect your seat as captain, that was already declared before hand.
Personally I have nothing against you, and my brother, and my best friend are in the navy. My family is largely military, and if it wasn't for might height, color blindness, and what not, I would have been in air force like my grandfather. So for all military people, I hold respect, such as towards Kaicho, yourself, and even Zoro now.

Now the warnings should have been made more so than once, but you know how things get, sometimes something forgetful happens, which I am one to give two warnings and if improvement is not seen, when improvement is told to happen, then I usually take things away.

Now your message, and I will go into a more detailed look of how to speak about it without making an attack, or calling total disrespect coming from you.
I can understand stress, trust me when I say I really can. So don't think civilians don't deal with as much, or even more stress than you, because in all honesty to say something like that can be very ignorant, and I know your not that kind of person.
Your message had been filled with releasing stress, this I understand, and I know personally that is needed. Which is why I will be opening another thread for people to post in, which it should not take long for people to vote it in.
Your stress relief in the message with Enshara was wrongly placed, and I understand that, but that doesn't completely excuse you from doing it. It could have been handled much better, we both know this, infact alot of people know it. So if you apologize to enshara, I cannot promise you she will do the same thing though, but she might apologize to you as well.

Now Ingfire, your seat has been taken away, but that does not mean you cannot get it back. I am a person to give chances to people all the time, but not freely give them, they are earned. So if you can prove yourself to the guild, the council, and me, then your captain seat can be returned, if metalfist wishes to give you your captain's spot back, and take another one, or if you want to try another squad.

One last thing, this Kaicho vs. Ingfire war stuff, I want this conversation to be less of what looks serious. America and Brittan are comrades. So if I see this conversation get out of hand, Reddeye will get pissed off, and when I get pissed off, there will be issues, and you both don't want to deal with me when I begin issues with people. This is true on and off gaia, I am really not a person to anger, or annoy to an extreme. On gaia you will be both placed on a Probation period, where you will be watched closely by me, enshara, kage, and who ever I ask to watch you both. So if a screw up is seen, double time will be added, then a suspension of a week.
So, you can truly continue on, only if you both tell me it is jokingly, but if you both know in your hearts your not joking, state it as soon as possible, and then apologize to the other person for what could have been taken out of hand.

Redd if you read Dakota's post, he was just messing around and trying to set up a joking battle between us. It's like a political battle between Republicans and Democrats, in the end they're on the same team and have to work together. Or the Army and Navy, we have a HUGE rivalry between us, but its all in good fun. Honestly, I think we'll all be f**ked if Russia goes all out and attacks the US without the UK's help. (Reference to Modern Warfare 2). Really not sure why you took that so seriously Redd...I thought you were a joking person...

I didn't realize I had removed anything from the PM, I'm pretty sure I copied the whole thing.

And Redd joining the Air Force, now THAT would have been a frightening thought...

I do apologize if the PM seemed harsh, but I'm dead serious, I've been getting a lot of s**t about what I do, and people think that what I'm doing right now is pointless. I'm not saying that civilians DONT have stress, I'm saying that its a much different kind, and we all take stress in different ways. My stress is not only my academics, but also my career, my family, and my friends. Do you know that I'm not allowed to leave my Campus except from Noon to midnight on Saturday's? Along with that, I'm not allowed to drive, drink ANY alcohol, wear regular clothes, listen to music, watch movies, play video games, or engage in...other activities to appease my mood. It's like a prison here, and it's just a lot of weight to carry.

I've been one of the lucky people to never have any family issues, my parents are still together after over 30 years, and still happy. I have a little sister who is 13, and right now I'm unable to watch her grow up except seeing her intermittently once every 2 months. I have too many friends that have family and life issues, heck even a good number of my high school friends are borderline suicidal, so please don't think I'm an uncaring p***k. I have feelings and am one of the most empathetic people you'll ever meet. I listen to people's problems all the time, and try to help them out as much as I can. So yes, Athena, if you want to vent on me, go ahead, but I probably won't be as receptive to it since this whole situation has put me in a crappy mood.

I meant that message to Enshara to try and assert my position, and how unfair it was to begin with, seeing that I was demoted after one warning which I explained. But I did not deserve the completely inflammatory response I received from her. I was mature enough to state my point without anger or the use of vulgar words, and I tried to be civil. Enshara did not reply in the same manner...

As for regaining my Captain's spot which was unfairly taken from me, I'll have you know that I'm trying to free up time in my day to become more active. Ironically enough, this whole issue had to pop up right after my 12 week exams had finished, so this puts a definite halt on my motivation to do anything now, seeing as I've only received true empathy from Dakota, which I appreciate.