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Ammonia Spike Vice Captain
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 Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:29 pm
Shanna66 Ammonia Spike Shanna66 Ammonia Spike Shanna66 what do you mean? most of the animals that are kept in captivity lead much longer lives than they do in the wild Leopard geckos and bettas, for example. biggrin explaine the leos part. bettas are obvious because not many people take proper care of them even with all the good information out there. i always heard that leos dont get much older than 5 or 10 in the wild I've heard of them living up to 15 in captivity. I've also heard that breeding geckos tend to not live as long. Who knows, I could probably be wrong. I usually am. XD well quite a few people overbreed their females and dont give them time to rest and some people even house them with males all year round. if you give females plenty of time to rest and house them alone so they dont get stressed out then they are fine. if it shortened their lives even with proper care then i would not be planning on breeding 2 of my girls, they are far too spoiled to have shortened lives lol XD and a captive bred leo who is healthy should make it to 20 years. a few years ago 15 was normal but as we learn more about proper care they live longer. i think we are still in the transitioning phases of that though because i still see alot of big time breeders stuffing their females with pinkies Yeah I really don't get the whole feeding pinkies thing. It's so unnatural in a leo's diet- they are insectivores! The only thing I feed my girls as a treat are waxworms (and yes I know that they have a high fat content and no nutritional value etc.) . They really seem to love waxworms, and they are a MUCH more natural treat for leos. EDIT: Wow we are off topic. XD
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:36 pm
Ammonia Spike Shanna66 Ammonia Spike Shanna66 Ammonia Spike Shanna66 what do you mean? most of the animals that are kept in captivity lead much longer lives than they do in the wild Leopard geckos and bettas, for example. biggrin explaine the leos part. bettas are obvious because not many people take proper care of them even with all the good information out there. i always heard that leos dont get much older than 5 or 10 in the wild I've heard of them living up to 15 in captivity. I've also heard that breeding geckos tend to not live as long. Who knows, I could probably be wrong. I usually am. XD well quite a few people overbreed their females and dont give them time to rest and some people even house them with males all year round. if you give females plenty of time to rest and house them alone so they dont get stressed out then they are fine. if it shortened their lives even with proper care then i would not be planning on breeding 2 of my girls, they are far too spoiled to have shortened lives lol XD and a captive bred leo who is healthy should make it to 20 years. a few years ago 15 was normal but as we learn more about proper care they live longer. i think we are still in the transitioning phases of that though because i still see alot of big time breeders stuffing their females with pinkies Yeah I really don't get the whole feeding pinkies thing. It's so unnatural in a leo's diet- they are insectivores! The only thing I feed my girls as a treat are waxworms (and yes I know that they have a high fat content and no nutritional value etc.) . They really seem to love waxworms, and they are a MUCH more natural treat for leos. EDIT: Wow we are off topic. XD well baby rodents are a natural part of their diet out in the wild, but they arent that good for them and ince they are in captivity we should be doing whats best for them, not just whats natural. in my mind once you put an animal in a tank you need to stop using nature as an excuse for everything. my girls get waxworms on hoooooolidays and their hatchdays, i love spoiling them whee and yeah, we got way off topic lol
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Ammonia Spike Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:39 pm
Shanna66 Ammonia Spike Shanna66 Ammonia Spike Shanna66 explaine the leos part. bettas are obvious because not many people take proper care of them even with all the good information out there. i always heard that leos dont get much older than 5 or 10 in the wild I've heard of them living up to 15 in captivity. I've also heard that breeding geckos tend to not live as long. Who knows, I could probably be wrong. I usually am. XD well quite a few people overbreed their females and dont give them time to rest and some people even house them with males all year round. if you give females plenty of time to rest and house them alone so they dont get stressed out then they are fine. if it shortened their lives even with proper care then i would not be planning on breeding 2 of my girls, they are far too spoiled to have shortened lives lol XD and a captive bred leo who is healthy should make it to 20 years. a few years ago 15 was normal but as we learn more about proper care they live longer. i think we are still in the transitioning phases of that though because i still see alot of big time breeders stuffing their females with pinkies Yeah I really don't get the whole feeding pinkies thing. It's so unnatural in a leo's diet- they are insectivores! The only thing I feed my girls as a treat are waxworms (and yes I know that they have a high fat content and no nutritional value etc.) . They really seem to love waxworms, and they are a MUCH more natural treat for leos. EDIT: Wow we are off topic. XD well baby rodents are a natural part of their diet out in the wild, but they arent that good for them and ince they are in captivity we should be doing whats best for them, not just whats natural. in my mind once you put an animal in a tank you need to stop using nature as an excuse for everything. my girls get waxworms on hoooooolidays and their hatchdays, i love spoiling them whee and yeah, we got way off topic lol That's a good point. I can't believe we're actually both online at the same time. This is a first! rofl
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:42 pm
Ammonia Spike Shanna66 Ammonia Spike Shanna66 Ammonia Spike Shanna66 explaine the leos part. bettas are obvious because not many people take proper care of them even with all the good information out there. i always heard that leos dont get much older than 5 or 10 in the wild I've heard of them living up to 15 in captivity. I've also heard that breeding geckos tend to not live as long. Who knows, I could probably be wrong. I usually am. XD well quite a few people overbreed their females and dont give them time to rest and some people even house them with males all year round. if you give females plenty of time to rest and house them alone so they dont get stressed out then they are fine. if it shortened their lives even with proper care then i would not be planning on breeding 2 of my girls, they are far too spoiled to have shortened lives lol XD and a captive bred leo who is healthy should make it to 20 years. a few years ago 15 was normal but as we learn more about proper care they live longer. i think we are still in the transitioning phases of that though because i still see alot of big time breeders stuffing their females with pinkies Yeah I really don't get the whole feeding pinkies thing. It's so unnatural in a leo's diet- they are insectivores! The only thing I feed my girls as a treat are waxworms (and yes I know that they have a high fat content and no nutritional value etc.) . They really seem to love waxworms, and they are a MUCH more natural treat for leos. EDIT: Wow we are off topic. XD well baby rodents are a natural part of their diet out in the wild, but they arent that good for them and ince they are in captivity we should be doing whats best for them, not just whats natural. in my mind once you put an animal in a tank you need to stop using nature as an excuse for everything. my girls get waxworms on hoooooolidays and their hatchdays, i love spoiling them whee and yeah, we got way off topic lol That's a good point. I can't believe we're actually both online at the same time. This is a first! rofl i know, im rarely online the same time as someone else XD
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Ammonia Spike Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:44 pm
Shanna66 Ammonia Spike Shanna66 Ammonia Spike Shanna66 well quite a few people overbreed their females and dont give them time to rest and some people even house them with males all year round. if you give females plenty of time to rest and house them alone so they dont get stressed out then they are fine. if it shortened their lives even with proper care then i would not be planning on breeding 2 of my girls, they are far too spoiled to have shortened lives lol XD and a captive bred leo who is healthy should make it to 20 years. a few years ago 15 was normal but as we learn more about proper care they live longer. i think we are still in the transitioning phases of that though because i still see alot of big time breeders stuffing their females with pinkies Yeah I really don't get the whole feeding pinkies thing. It's so unnatural in a leo's diet- they are insectivores! The only thing I feed my girls as a treat are waxworms (and yes I know that they have a high fat content and no nutritional value etc.) . They really seem to love waxworms, and they are a MUCH more natural treat for leos. EDIT: Wow we are off topic. XD well baby rodents are a natural part of their diet out in the wild, but they arent that good for them and ince they are in captivity we should be doing whats best for them, not just whats natural. in my mind once you put an animal in a tank you need to stop using nature as an excuse for everything. my girls get waxworms on hoooooolidays and their hatchdays, i love spoiling them whee and yeah, we got way off topic lol That's a good point. I can't believe we're actually both online at the same time. This is a first! rofl i know, im rarely online the same time as someone else XD Especially in this guild. xd
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:48 pm
Ammonia Spike Shanna66 Ammonia Spike Shanna66 Ammonia Spike Shanna66 well quite a few people overbreed their females and dont give them time to rest and some people even house them with males all year round. if you give females plenty of time to rest and house them alone so they dont get stressed out then they are fine. if it shortened their lives even with proper care then i would not be planning on breeding 2 of my girls, they are far too spoiled to have shortened lives lol XD and a captive bred leo who is healthy should make it to 20 years. a few years ago 15 was normal but as we learn more about proper care they live longer. i think we are still in the transitioning phases of that though because i still see alot of big time breeders stuffing their females with pinkies Yeah I really don't get the whole feeding pinkies thing. It's so unnatural in a leo's diet- they are insectivores! The only thing I feed my girls as a treat are waxworms (and yes I know that they have a high fat content and no nutritional value etc.) . They really seem to love waxworms, and they are a MUCH more natural treat for leos. EDIT: Wow we are off topic. XD well baby rodents are a natural part of their diet out in the wild, but they arent that good for them and ince they are in captivity we should be doing whats best for them, not just whats natural. in my mind once you put an animal in a tank you need to stop using nature as an excuse for everything. my girls get waxworms on hoooooolidays and their hatchdays, i love spoiling them whee and yeah, we got way off topic lol That's a good point. I can't believe we're actually both online at the same time. This is a first! rofl i know, im rarely online the same time as someone else XD Especially in this guild. xd yeah lol
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