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Just Before An Eclipse

PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:29 pm


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I think to classify as a cult, it's members must pay more attention to the leader or the cult itself instead of their own lives. That's when they reach the point to do anything their group tells them to do.

Not to mention a cult is always based on something dreadful that can be fixed.
There is many examples, but let's take my favorite example.

Has anyone heard of the video game Dead Rising for the 360?
It's pretty much you, a photographer, being stuck in a mall after he was trying to take photos of the town that was cut off from the world.
The main character flies in to see what is going on and discovers it is a zombie invasion.

A little while into the movie, the main character discovers a cult called the Rain Coats.
Introduction here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMLo5QjiKQY
The cult believes that if they sacrifice souls to whoever, their souls will be cleansed and they will be saved from what they call, the apocalypse.
They aren't the only crazy people in the movie. There are a bunch more. Only problem is, this one is a large organization in the game and best suited for what a cult truly is.


It's sad that that fictional cult seems less ridiculous than real ones.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:48 pm


So how many consider the LDS church a cult in here?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:04 pm


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I'm going to get burned for saying this but... To me all religions are cults. Any group of people that have a belief that cannot be supported by verifiable proof is a cult in my opinion.


So any belief that doesnt have verifiable proof is a cult?

I think a "cult" really implies a bit more....

* Questioning and doubt is is discouraged and can be grounds for punishment/banishment

* Group has a zealous "us vs. them" mentality

* The leader does things which are against the beliefs of said cult, but is excused because of some "divine" reason

* The leader pushes violence towards its members, or speaks of "the end" as an event to happen soon ((Lets not forget Jonestown and the drinking of the cool-aid... sad ))

Yeah. 'Cult' implies unhealthy practices, and there's plenty of religions that aren't unhealthy.

Obviously correct.

To pit faith and reason against each other is absurd.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:17 am


A cult is a religion.

The negative connotations associated with the word cult are a modern bastardization of the word.

And yes there are religions/cults and sects of a religion/cult which are designed to be manipulative and detrimental to it's practitioners.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:18 am


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A cult is a religion.

The negative connotations associated with the word cult are a modern bastardization of the word.

And yes there are religions and sects of a religion which are designed to be manipulative and detrimental to it's practitioners.

In short, the modernist view of the world has done us all wrong.

As far as what you say is concerned, I tend to view some creeds as cults.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:10 pm


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A cult is a religion.

The negative connotations associated with the word cult are a modern bastardization of the word.

And yes there are religions and sects of a religion which are designed to be manipulative and detrimental to it's practitioners.

In short, the modernist view of the world has done us all wrong.

As far as what you say is concerned, I tend to view some creeds as cults.


So you view some creeds as religions?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:20 pm


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A cult is a religion.

The negative connotations associated with the word cult are a modern bastardization of the word.

And yes there are religions and sects of a religion which are designed to be manipulative and detrimental to it's practitioners.

In short, the modernist view of the world has done us all wrong.

As far as what you say is concerned, I tend to view some creeds as cults.


So you view some creeds as religions?

Yes.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:08 pm


Original definition of cult: "A group of believers". Therefore all organised religions are "cults" in the true sense ofthe word.

However, people abused the word, as they do so often, so now it refers to Scientologists and the Branch Davidian and them.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:34 pm


Julri
So, in your opinion, what exactly makes a religion a cult? Is it possible for a religion to have "cult like tendencies," but to still not actually be a cult? And which groups actually count as cults then?

Lol, this question always seems to come up. A lot of my friends see Christianity as a cult because it has cult like tendencies. The fear of hell, making a person openly repent, the rebirth ritual, sometimes even the assault on identity. Here is a link, check out the 10 big factors they have listed.

http://www.howstuffworks.com/brainwashing.htm/printable

However, this occurs most in churches. I'm an outsider Christian so I'm not exposed to very much, but I do see similarities between the two. I remain Christian for God more then I do for the Churches. God always been there for me.

Also, you can use the methods listed on this article on control people without using a religion, but I think people who do that are monsters. (abusive relationships)
PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:49 pm


The word cult mean hidden. Comes from greek cugltes. Mean hidden truth.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:33 pm


Honestly, I always thought that any small "unpopular" religion was considered a cult. I.E: early christianity.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:44 am


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The word cult mean hidden. Comes from greek cugltes. Mean hidden truth.


occult means hidden. Cult meant "worship" and is from Latin cultus, "care, cultivation", past participle of "colere", to till.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:23 pm


Sanguina Cruenta
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The word cult mean hidden. Comes from greek cugltes. Mean hidden truth.


occult means hidden. Cult meant "worship" and is from Latin cultus, "care, cultivation", past participle of "colere", to till.


My book on prefixes and suffixes say it mean hidden. But what do they know. There is always a typo or something that's incorrect these days. Thanks for correcting me Sanguina!^^
PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:19 pm


Wow. Everyone seems to be going in different directions on what they think a cult is. I stick to the typical usage of the word.

*small group
*dynamic leader
*elements of control or at least a strong influence over the members
*typically has religious/spiritual elements (oftentimes has broken off from a larger group)
*isolated from the world at the very least in thought (they are right and the rest of the world is not only wrong but possibly is considered extremely dangerous to the members) -- this feeds into the control over the members.


If you go to the extremes with this definition you have something very dangerous, if you don't than you have just another vigorous religious/spiritual movement.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:25 pm


Someoneiknow
So how many consider the LDS church a cult in here?


Were people saying that it was?

I don't think it's a cult anymore.
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