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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:33 am

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my cousin's parents aborted their first child smile its not such a big deal . and if its a rape child its gonna remind u always of the incident . forget the pregnancy and forget the incident . then move on but dont have the baby !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you should have a baby with the person you love not who raped you . its just as easy as that to decide what to do .

dont think that its alive and you kill it . its not alive until it breathes .

here's another reason to abort it : its gonna grow up to be a ***** or something similar or worst .

DONT HAVE THE BABY !

how ******** stupid are you? it is alive before it is even born. that fetus has a heartbeat and yes it also breathes. just because you get pregnant by someone who raped you does not mean you take it out on an innocent being. That child is a miracle from god. That child has a reason for being here just like me or you. No person has the right to take anothers life even before it is born.
And how dare you say that child will grow up to something of that. A childs mind is a sponge that can molded the way the parent wants it. you can not say that that child will grow up and be that because you are not its parent nor are you raising. so no just because a rapist knocked you up, doesnt mean you need to take a life of another human being.

Ok no offence but i actually find this statement to be very hilarious. xD
and this entire argument for one, but anyways time to set it straight and let it die. :3

1. its her choice whether she wants to abort it or not, comin in and saying "KEEP THE BABY!!!" like its truly that important is just pointless, consider the age of the person for one..she is 12 for christs sake...there's is honestly still her education to think about and just cause she's expecting doesnt mean she has to throw her future away for that "child".

2. yes i used "" when i said child because the only thing that truly is to her is a memory..a horrid unforgetful memory of when she was raped, everytime she'll look at it if she keeps it or anything she'll remember what happened to her and 9/10; she'll have a mental and emotional breakdown right infront of it. You all may say or think "oh no thats not true" but it is..its a psychological state of mind she'll be set in..its jsut the way the human brain works, when we see things taht ahd somethign to do with/looks like/has ANY relation to somethign we instantly remember it no matter how long ago it was..that or we'll have a bit of a foggy memory and then suddenly it'll hit them.

3. i honestly have to say go with either abortion or adoption whether you decide to keep it or not. if you decide to let it have a life, my suggestion is set up a plan of getting ti adopted about a week or 2 after its born...not trying to be mean but it sounds like your not ready for a child..especially not one that you didnt truly want.

4. gift from god? what kind of "god" gives someone a child through rape? and when they honeslty might have not even wanted it to begin with, i mean honestly?...let me say this now and this is truly my opinion but im mostly right. There is no god! simple as that..if there was and he was even half the way the "messengers of god" say he is..half the s**t in our world wouldnt even be happening..honestly christianity is just a haze over the eyes of those who blindly follow one who doesnt exist. some of the other religions of the world actually make more sense then that of "god".

5. what do you think her friends are gonna think of her? what do you think anyones gonna think when they see a little teenage girl with a stomach the size of a basketball walking around in school/town/home/wherever, thats another mental sideeffect thats gonna happen to her...nobody will probably believe her except a few and the rest will dub her a whore or a slut or a skank..

6. her mom is probably all she has right now..her father hates her, and her grandmother doesnt believe her...whats taht say right there? that she's practically -ALL ALONE-

7. sure her stepbro might go to jail IF they win the case...he may already have a prefect allaby set up unless SOMEONE suggests DNA testing..but other then taht its only a set chance he'll go to jail..and for how long? only a few years thats about it..then he'll be back out and after her...from what i know about 60-80% of rapists/molesters who get put behind bars only get a slap on the wrist compared to what they did..plus once they're out they're most likely to come after the person who put them there because they have to be registered as a sex offender and their current job may involve working with children, who knows? they get fired...they cant do much anymore so what do they do? they take their rage out on the one who did this to them.

8. its a family member, technically not blood related but still a family member...that is probably making her very insecure about it..not sayign if it wasnt it wouldnt..but more then most..cause her mind is probably flooded with thoughts of the family being dysfunctional and everyoens otu to hurt her.

9. the baby may possibly die..heck she even said there is a chance that SHE'LL die....or even that they'll BOTH die..really guys? you want to risk a life for one that may not even see the light of day? honestly that just says abortion is needed..you may say "oh there is only a chance though! its not worth one life!" yeah..but just cause they didnt say that there is a 100% chance she'll die..doesnt mean there still isnt the chance she will...and plus remember her age...she's barely had time to really live her life..a child only stops your social life..not joking...all teen mothers once they give birth if they choose to their social life is killed because they must always take care of taht child...plus they have to drop out of school and everything..

10. the baby might be born, and she might live..but the baby has a health condition or somethign majorly wrong that he/he needs certain meds for..or cant do certain things..heck he/she may have a deformity or be paralyzed or be a vegetative state or be mentally challenged for all we know! a girl of 12 years doesnt need that..

11. seriously just do what you want though miss..but keep my statements in mind..ive had to deal with this before, and it is not pretty in the least for those who are around it or for the one who's effected by it..

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:35 am

how far along are you? I am sorry you have no support at home. I know how that feels. No one believed me so I was a loner most of my childhood and teen years. What about your friends are they supportive in all this? If not then they are not really your friends. A friend is someone who can accept you for who you are. No matter what has happened to you. Just know that you have alot people in this guild that support you and your decision. Some may not like the decision but will support you.

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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:52 pm

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my cousin's parents aborted their first child smile its not such a big deal . and if its a rape child its gonna remind u always of the incident . forget the pregnancy and forget the incident . then move on but dont have the baby !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you should have a baby with the person you love not who raped you . its just as easy as that to decide what to do .

dont think that its alive and you kill it . its not alive until it breathes .

here's another reason to abort it : its gonna grow up to be a ***** or something similar or worst .

DONT HAVE THE BABY !

how ******** stupid are you? it is alive before it is even born. that fetus has a heartbeat and yes it also breathes. just because you get pregnant by someone who raped you does not mean you take it out on an innocent being. That child is a miracle from god. That child has a reason for being here just like me or you. No person has the right to take anothers life even before it is born.
And how dare you say that child will grow up to something of that. A childs mind is a sponge that can molded the way the parent wants it. you can not say that that child will grow up and be that because you are not its parent nor are you raising. so no just because a rapist knocked you up, doesnt mean you need to take a life of another human being.

Ok no offence but i actually find this statement to be very hilarious. xD
and this entire argument for one, but anyways time to set it straight and let it die. :3

1. its her choice whether she wants to abort it or not, comin in and saying "KEEP THE BABY!!!" like its truly that important is just pointless, consider the age of the person for one..she is 12 for christs sake...there's is honestly still her education to think about and just cause she's expecting doesnt mean she has to throw her future away for that "child".

2. yes i used "" when i said child because the only thing that truly is to her is a memory..a horrid unforgetful memory of when she was raped, everytime she'll look at it if she keeps it or anything she'll remember what happened to her and 9/10; she'll have a mental and emotional breakdown right infront of it. You all may say or think "oh no thats not true" but it is..its a psychological state of mind she'll be set in..its jsut the way the human brain works, when we see things taht ahd somethign to do with/looks like/has ANY relation to somethign we instantly remember it no matter how long ago it was..that or we'll have a bit of a foggy memory and then suddenly it'll hit them.

3. i honestly have to say go with either abortion or adoption whether you decide to keep it or not. if you decide to let it have a life, my suggestion is set up a plan of getting ti adopted about a week or 2 after its born...not trying to be mean but it sounds like your not ready for a child..especially not one that you didnt truly want.

4. gift from god? what kind of "god" gives someone a child through rape? and when they honeslty might have not even wanted it to begin with, i mean honestly?...let me say this now and this is truly my opinion but im mostly right. There is no god! simple as that..if there was and he was even half the way the "messengers of god" say he is..half the s**t in our world wouldnt even be happening..honestly christianity is just a haze over the eyes of those who blindly follow one who doesnt exist. some of the other religions of the world actually make more sense then that of "god".

5. what do you think her friends are gonna think of her? what do you think anyones gonna think when they see a little teenage girl with a stomach the size of a basketball walking around in school/town/home/wherever, thats another mental sideeffect thats gonna happen to her...nobody will probably believe her except a few and the rest will dub her a whore or a slut or a skank..

6. her mom is probably all she has right now..her father hates her, and her grandmother doesnt believe her...whats taht say right there? that she's practically -ALL ALONE-

7. sure her stepbro might go to jail IF they win the case...he may already have a prefect allaby set up unless SOMEONE suggests DNA testing..but other then taht its only a set chance he'll go to jail..and for how long? only a few years thats about it..then he'll be back out and after her...from what i know about 60-80% of rapists/molesters who get put behind bars only get a slap on the wrist compared to what they did..plus once they're out they're most likely to come after the person who put them there because they have to be registered as a sex offender and their current job may involve working with children, who knows? they get fired...they cant do much anymore so what do they do? they take their rage out on the one who did this to them.

8. its a family member, technically not blood related but still a family member...that is probably making her very insecure about it..not sayign if it wasnt it wouldnt..but more then most..cause her mind is probably flooded with thoughts of the family being dysfunctional and everyoens otu to hurt her.

9. the baby may possibly die..heck she even said there is a chance that SHE'LL die....or even that they'll BOTH die..really guys? you want to risk a life for one that may not even see the light of day? honestly that just says abortion is needed..you may say "oh there is only a chance though! its not worth one life!" yeah..but just cause they didnt say that there is a 100% chance she'll die..doesnt mean there still isnt the chance she will...and plus remember her age...she's barely had time to really live her life..a child only stops your social life..not joking...all teen mothers once they give birth if they choose to their social life is killed because they must always take care of taht child...plus they have to drop out of school and everything..

10. the baby might be born, and she might live..but the baby has a health condition or somethign majorly wrong that he/he needs certain meds for..or cant do certain things..heck he/she may have a deformity or be paralyzed or be a vegetative state or be mentally challenged for all we know! a girl of 12 years doesnt need that..

11. seriously just do what you want though miss..but keep my statements in mind..ive had to deal with this before, and it is not pretty in the least for those who are around it or for the one who's effected by it..

I'm glad that you have stated your opinion but this guild is not about yours or my opinion. It is about supporting others and give them positive reinforcement. Your negative remarks and information you provided is not beneficial to this situation. please provide positive information. The harshness of reality already crushes those that carry this burden. Don't extend the burden.

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:46 pm

have th child
u can but th baby on adobtion but dont
abort
cause when u do itz just saying u r a mother of a dead baby
i know being raped is bad
u aint th only one

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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:51 pm

chezza_kiba

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chezza_kiba

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my cousin's parents aborted their first child smile its not such a big deal . and if its a rape child its gonna remind u always of the incident . forget the pregnancy and forget the incident . then move on but dont have the baby !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you should have a baby with the person you love not who raped you . its just as easy as that to decide what to do .

dont think that its alive and you kill it . its not alive until it breathes .

here's another reason to abort it : its gonna grow up to be a ***** or something similar or worst .

DONT HAVE THE BABY !

how ******** stupid are you? it is alive before it is even born. that fetus has a heartbeat and yes it also breathes. just because you get pregnant by someone who raped you does not mean you take it out on an innocent being. That child is a miracle from god. That child has a reason for being here just like me or you. No person has the right to take anothers life even before it is born.
And how dare you say that child will grow up to something of that. A childs mind is a sponge that can molded the way the parent wants it. you can not say that that child will grow up and be that because you are not its parent nor are you raising. so no just because a rapist knocked you up, doesnt mean you need to take a life of another human being.

Ok no offence but i actually find this statement to be very hilarious. xD
and this entire argument for one, but anyways time to set it straight and let it die. :3

1. its her choice whether she wants to abort it or not, comin in and saying "KEEP THE BABY!!!" like its truly that important is just pointless, consider the age of the person for one..she is 12 for christs sake...there's is honestly still her education to think about and just cause she's expecting doesnt mean she has to throw her future away for that "child".

2. yes i used "" when i said child because the only thing that truly is to her is a memory..a horrid unforgetful memory of when she was raped, everytime she'll look at it if she keeps it or anything she'll remember what happened to her and 9/10; she'll have a mental and emotional breakdown right infront of it. You all may say or think "oh no thats not true" but it is..its a psychological state of mind she'll be set in..its jsut the way the human brain works, when we see things taht ahd somethign to do with/looks like/has ANY relation to somethign we instantly remember it no matter how long ago it was..that or we'll have a bit of a foggy memory and then suddenly it'll hit them.

3. i honestly have to say go with either abortion or adoption whether you decide to keep it or not. if you decide to let it have a life, my suggestion is set up a plan of getting ti adopted about a week or 2 after its born...not trying to be mean but it sounds like your not ready for a child..especially not one that you didnt truly want.

4. gift from god? what kind of "god" gives someone a child through rape? and when they honeslty might have not even wanted it to begin with, i mean honestly?...let me say this now and this is truly my opinion but im mostly right. There is no god! simple as that..if there was and he was even half the way the "messengers of god" say he is..half the s**t in our world wouldnt even be happening..honestly christianity is just a haze over the eyes of those who blindly follow one who doesnt exist. some of the other religions of the world actually make more sense then that of "god".

5. what do you think her friends are gonna think of her? what do you think anyones gonna think when they see a little teenage girl with a stomach the size of a basketball walking around in school/town/home/wherever, thats another mental sideeffect thats gonna happen to her...nobody will probably believe her except a few and the rest will dub her a whore or a slut or a skank..

6. her mom is probably all she has right now..her father hates her, and her grandmother doesnt believe her...whats taht say right there? that she's practically -ALL ALONE-

7. sure her stepbro might go to jail IF they win the case...he may already have a prefect allaby set up unless SOMEONE suggests DNA testing..but other then taht its only a set chance he'll go to jail..and for how long? only a few years thats about it..then he'll be back out and after her...from what i know about 60-80% of rapists/molesters who get put behind bars only get a slap on the wrist compared to what they did..plus once they're out they're most likely to come after the person who put them there because they have to be registered as a sex offender and their current job may involve working with children, who knows? they get fired...they cant do much anymore so what do they do? they take their rage out on the one who did this to them.

8. its a family member, technically not blood related but still a family member...that is probably making her very insecure about it..not sayign if it wasnt it wouldnt..but more then most..cause her mind is probably flooded with thoughts of the family being dysfunctional and everyoens otu to hurt her.

9. the baby may possibly die..heck she even said there is a chance that SHE'LL die....or even that they'll BOTH die..really guys? you want to risk a life for one that may not even see the light of day? honestly that just says abortion is needed..you may say "oh there is only a chance though! its not worth one life!" yeah..but just cause they didnt say that there is a 100% chance she'll die..doesnt mean there still isnt the chance she will...and plus remember her age...she's barely had time to really live her life..a child only stops your social life..not joking...all teen mothers once they give birth if they choose to their social life is killed because they must always take care of taht child...plus they have to drop out of school and everything..

10. the baby might be born, and she might live..but the baby has a health condition or somethign majorly wrong that he/he needs certain meds for..or cant do certain things..heck he/she may have a deformity or be paralyzed or be a vegetative state or be mentally challenged for all we know! a girl of 12 years doesnt need that..

11. seriously just do what you want though miss..but keep my statements in mind..ive had to deal with this before, and it is not pretty in the least for those who are around it or for the one who's effected by it..

I'm glad that you have stated your opinion but this guild is not about yours or my opinion. It is about supporting others and give them positive reinforcement. Your negative remarks and information you provided is not beneficial to this situation. please provide positive information. The harshness of reality already crushes those that carry this burden. Don't extend the burden.

-hi fives-
aww....sounds like someone -person who started this forum- needs a hug!!! : O -hugs deeply- im so sorry. : o
damn, ur only twelve? i feel so bad taht u have to go thru this!!
aww. :l
if i knew u in real life. i would like..hug u, ask who is ur step brother. get some gang together. and go BEAT HIS a** DOWN. D:<

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:12 pm

rape babys can turn out wonderful
A. in the past posts in the topic one of the members stated that they themselves were rape babys.
B. i have read that in fact a lady was raped and the rape baby grew up and became the damn towns savior.(he got the town rich and tought them how to plant, well, plants.

so yes, rape babys dont always grow up to be twisted.

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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:47 pm

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B. i have read that in fact a lady was raped and the rape baby grew up and became the damn towns savior.(he got the town rich and tought them how to plant, well, plants.

That story actually seems very familiar... Though, I'm not quite sure if we're thinking of the same story. xD

But, yes, either way... I agree with you.
The fault was in the rape, not in the child. Though, sometimes you might feel that way... Trust me, I understand.

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:29 pm

@ Aurothan Darkheart

Everyone who supports Abortion was born -
May I remind you.

I wasn't a rape baby, but even if I was,
I would still be grateful my Mother gave me life.

And whether you believe in God or not, how you said "There is no God!" Is completely rude and disrespectful. I do not care if you state you don't believe in God, but to say your opinion in a way that particularly offends me, who is also a Christian, really pushes my buttons.

@OP -- On "gift from god? what kind of "god" gives someone a child through rape? and when they honestly might have not even wanted it".. Well, whether you like it or not, God has a plan for you. If that plan is giving you a beautiful baby and showing you the hardships of life, then it is.
Don't be worried about having a baby.
It might not have been the way you wanted it to be, but is it your child, nonetheless.

Love it like it was yours.
Because it is.

God bless you.

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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:13 pm

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@OP -- On "gift from god? what kind of "god" gives someone a child through rape? and when they honestly might have not even wanted it".. Well, whether you like it or not, God has a plan for you. If that plan is giving you a beautiful baby and showing you the hardships of life, then it is.
Don't be worried about having a baby.
It might not have been the way you wanted it to be, but is it your child, nonetheless.

Love it like it was yours.
Because it is.

God bless you.

i said something similar to that. but I have to admit you said it so much better..thank you

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:49 pm

u cant say just rase the babby and move on..she has to deal with that for the rest of her life!

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yea wat she said and also omfg how old r yu? also advice DO NOT ABORT THE BABY! aborting will leave something of shame if yu do! also wen yu tell yur parents make sure he goes to jail 4 doin dat and just raise the baby and move on

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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:40 pm

whatever you do dont abort the baby! the baby is a person & thats murder! if you dont want the reminder then just put it up for adoption! & make sure to keep it open cause then if for some reason down the road you regret your decision about letting go you could talk with the parents and explain things. 98% of the time if you talk with the adoptive parents ahead of time when you choose them they will be fully acceptive of you being out of the childs life untill your ready! but please dont abort the baby! hell if anything when your abotu to give birth I'll take him/her! ive got 8 yr old twin boy & girl, as well as custody of my buddies 3 siblings (male twin-9, female twin-9, male-16), my cousin (male-17), & a 15 yr old whos friends w/ my cousin & the 16 yr old. yea we might not have tons of room where i live but i will guarentee he/she will live a happy life! oh & the twins are all in private school in LA on scholarships, the 16 yr old is in college, the 15 yr old is a junior in hs, & my cousin dropped out to play professional streetball (& is making more money then any of the rest of us)... but we get by financially... oh & all the teens babysit for free plus we got neighbors & others that baysit the kids for free anytime we need them cause the people on our street look out for eachother!!!

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:01 pm

it died. and i cant stop crying.

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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:07 pm

im srry to hear that. It was apart of you. It would not be right if you didn't cry. I am srry I have nothing more to give you than my condolences.

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:53 pm

I am very sorry for your loss

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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:59 pm

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it died. and i cant stop crying.

Omg! Im so sorry to hear that! My mom miscarried once also, but if she hadnt then I wouldnt have had a wonderful and blessed baby brother after that, i would have had a little sister. But the upside to all of that was that all babies go to heaven because they in actuality carry no sin. So what's there to judge? nothing!
But truly my condolences.. crying

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