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Errol McGillivray
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:04 pm


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A mirror is no good until you know what you're looking at.
Care to explain further?


wtf anatomy due to having ******** no idea what he's looking at. This person had a picture of a woman from some girly mag or site and heavily "referenced" it without thinking any idea of her structure.

You can't see what's under your skin with a mirror. If you know why the things on the surface are there, then you'll capture them correctly and be able to draw them correctly from memory.

Plastic surface due to not knowing what's underneath.

I'm not especially articulate tonight, so if it still doesn't make sense, let me know and I'll find another way to explain.
And how would using somebody else as a model vs using a mirror help with that?
1 - Adjusting the mirror everytime you move is distracting.
2 - You can't walk around yourself in a mirror.
3- You can't see your back.
4 - You can't get close to yourself in a mirror without changing the pose/image
5 - You had to move to change the lighting, so you're not getting the same pose with different lighting.
6- You can't do timed, full figure drawings with a mirror.
7- You can't pose and draw in most cases.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:07 pm


Errol McGillivray
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Errol McGillivray
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Errol McGillivray
A mirror is no good until you know what you're looking at.
Care to explain further?


wtf anatomy due to having ******** no idea what he's looking at. This person had a picture of a woman from some girly mag or site and heavily "referenced" it without thinking any idea of her structure.

You can't see what's under your skin with a mirror. If you know why the things on the surface are there, then you'll capture them correctly and be able to draw them correctly from memory.

Plastic surface due to not knowing what's underneath.

I'm not especially articulate tonight, so if it still doesn't make sense, let me know and I'll find another way to explain.
And how would using somebody else as a model vs using a mirror help with that?
1 - Adjusting the mirror everytime you move is distracting.
2 - You can't walk around yourself in a mirror.
3- You can't see your back.
4 - You can't get close to yourself in a mirror without changing the pose/image
5 - You had to move to change the lighting, so you're not getting the same pose with different lighting.
6- You can't do timed, full figure drawings with a mirror.
7- You can't pose and draw in most cases.
Odd, I've never had any of those problems when I had to do mirrored self portraits.
I still think a mirror is a decent substitute if you can't find a model.

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Errol McGillivray
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:12 pm


Self portraits aren't anatomy studies. Unless you never want to draw anything besides the same shot of your own face, you will have to branch out, when it comes to drawing people.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:45 pm


Errol McGillivray
Actually, I did my figure studies courses online. Only photos of figure models. But they're taken specifically for that purpose.

Start by learning the skeleton. Draw the skeleton with various gestures.
Learn major muscle groups. Draw the body with muscle in gesture.
By the time you do all that, you probably won't feel like you don't know anatomy anymore.


I was thinking about this at first, but im not quite sure how to translate it to full-skinned people. Would one just cover the muscle/bone up with tissue?

PS: How many study drawings, and how long of a time would you estimate it would take to get the basic structural anatomy down pat?

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Errol McGillivray
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:04 pm


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Errol McGillivray
Actually, I did my figure studies courses online. Only photos of figure models. But they're taken specifically for that purpose.

Start by learning the skeleton. Draw the skeleton with various gestures.
Learn major muscle groups. Draw the body with muscle in gesture.
By the time you do all that, you probably won't feel like you don't know anatomy anymore.


I was thinking about this at first, but im not quite sure how to translate it to full-skinned people. Would one just cover the muscle/bone up with tissue?

PS: How many study drawings, and how long of a time would you estimate it would take to get the basic structural anatomy down pat?
It depends on you. I failed figure drawing the first time around. The second time, I struggled at first, then it just clicked. I started to understand.

May 2007 Dec 2007 Same assignment. World of difference. Between that time, I learned to see. I learned to take my time and really capture the angles, shapes, and forms. I learned to observe light with more finesse. It's because I learned the structure from the inside out, that I know what goes where, even when drawing without a model. Of course, we don't get it right all the time, but you get it right a lot more often when you know. Something as simple as placing the crotch in the right place or getting the right shape of the hips comes from knowing what's under the skin.


It's really a matter of taking your time and really observing people. Anatomy for the Artist is pretty helpful. It has illustrations of the anatomy, as well as photos of nude models. They also have master class pages on each section, where a model poses as the master work and you can compare.

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You've got to learn the body in order to understand it. This book has many images to show you how it's constructed from the skeleton out.
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When you see just how packed full of guts we are, you're less likely to draw way too skinny bodies. Just understanding that one thing makes a big difference.
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This is a great book and I recommend it. If you're young, your parents may have a problem with the n***s, but honestly, if the book is unwrapped that the bookstore, I don't see why you can't just have it at home. Your local library should have it to.

If you're of age, porn helps. You get a feel for the form and weight of things as well as body mechanics.

The main thing is, you need to look people's bodies to understand how to draw people's bodies. Don't expect a certain timeframe. Keep reading, observing, and drawing and you'll get it when you get it.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:41 pm


I might go against the grain by saying that but I think posemaniac is a lovely idea, you can set it so that it'll shuffle a new model every 30 sec which is exactly what you need to start with; very quick poses. Quick poses force you to get proportions fast and develops your grasp of gesture drawing. I think I had like 6 or 9h of 1 to 5 minutes pose in my life drawing class before we started the 15 and 20 minute poses.

on more thing; With life drawing, consistency is the key. Not only does constant practice makes you better, it also keeps you good because you will get rusty if you quit life drawing for a couple of months.

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