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ZonkotheSane

PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:17 pm


nathan_ngl
Kiashana
nathan_ngl
ZonkotheSane
Kiashana
ZonkotheSane
...what anouncement?
I dunno, maybe the one of the top of the main forum? I should totally smack you for being so out of it.
...whatever happened to being shomer neggia?


I thought the whole Issur of shomer neggia was for boys only... basically because the problem with a guy toutching a girl that didnt do a tvayla causes the boy to transgress the prohibition of niddah... Was I wrong? sweatdrop
rolleyes Doesn't matter. I'm conservative. I have male friends. In fact, most of my closest friends are male. I hug my male friends. I hit my male friends when they are stupid. Zonko is no exception to my anger.


Haha, okay smile .

My 15 year old sister still hits me, and prides with the fact that I can't hit her back. She has no idea how mad it makes me scream ! It's not fair... rolleyes
er....you can. shomer neggia doesn't apply to direct family.

nothing wrong with having friends who are guys, or hugging. you can hug without touching.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:23 am


ZonkotheSane
er....you can. shomer neggia doesn't apply to direct family.

nothing wrong with having friends who are guys, or hugging. you can hug without touching.
Hugging without touching? Um... How?
And watch the quote trees, b'vakasha

Kiashana
Crew


ZonkotheSane

PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:04 am


Kiashana
ZonkotheSane
er....you can. shomer neggia doesn't apply to direct family.

nothing wrong with having friends who are guys, or hugging. you can hug without touching.
Hugging without touching? Um... How?
And watch the quote trees, b'vakasha
only skin to skin is an issue.

so if one of you is wearing a long sleeve shirt...
PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 6:21 pm


ZonkotheSane
Kiashana
ZonkotheSane
er....you can. shomer neggia doesn't apply to direct family.

nothing wrong with having friends who are guys, or hugging. you can hug without touching.
Hugging without touching? Um... How?
And watch the quote trees, b'vakasha
only skin to skin is an issue.

so if one of you is wearing a long sleeve shirt...
Dude. I have male friends at summer camp. I spend summer in, like, short shorts and a bikini, maybe a tank top. And the guys are in their swim trunks and a t-shirt.

Kiashana
Crew


ScionoftheBlade

PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:41 pm


ZonkotheSane
Kiashana
ZonkotheSane
er....you can. shomer neggia doesn't apply to direct family.

nothing wrong with having friends who are guys, or hugging. you can hug without touching.
Hugging without touching? Um... How?
And watch the quote trees, b'vakasha
only skin to skin is an issue.

so if one of you is wearing a long sleeve shirt...
where are you getting this stuff? no offense but this is probbaly the single most incorrect thing youve ever said
PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:31 am


ZonkotheSane
nathan_ngl
Kiashana
nathan_ngl
ZonkotheSane
...whatever happened to being shomer neggia?


I thought the whole Issur of shomer neggia was for boys only... basically because the problem with a guy toutching a girl that didnt do a tvayla causes the boy to transgress the prohibition of niddah... Was I wrong? sweatdrop
rolleyes Doesn't matter. I'm conservative. I have male friends. In fact, most of my closest friends are male. I hug my male friends. I hit my male friends when they are stupid. Zonko is no exception to my anger.


Haha, okay smile .

My 15 year old sister still hits me, and prides with the fact that I can't hit her back. She has no idea how mad it makes me scream ! It's not fair... rolleyes
er....you can. shomer neggia doesn't apply to direct family.

nothing wrong with having friends who are guys, or hugging. you can hug without touching.


There is a problem with direct family, there is still the laws of niddah... anything the girl toutches becomes tamei with nidda- that includes her clothing, (which of all objects accepts Shenei La'Tuma'h, because it is considered a utensil... and it's almost like directly toutching the source itself), so that, above all things should not be toutched (even if you do, it isnt really bad, because we are all tamei today anyways...). I'm just stating the halaha sweatdrop , i don't mean to be an idiot or anything sweatdrop .

nathan_ngl
Crew


ScionoftheBlade

PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:39 pm


nathan_ngl

There is a problem with direct family, there is still the laws of niddah... anything the girl toutches becomes tamei with nidda- that includes her clothing, (which of all objects accepts Shenei La'Tuma'h, because it is considered a utensil... and it's almost like directly toutching the source itself), so that, above all things should not be toutched (even if you do, it isnt really bad, because we are all tamei today anyways...). I'm just stating the halaha sweatdrop , i don't mean to be an idiot or anything sweatdrop .
omg you people...

ok first off everyone is considered tomei meis or at least thevel of Av hatumah

second the issur involving niddah is specific to your wife and wouldn't apply to your sister, it would apply to a random girl because the act of sex is technically kiddushin

the sister thing is an extension of the Shomer issur that draws its roots from a rabbinic source
PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:33 pm


ScionoftheBlade
ZonkotheSane
Kiashana
ZonkotheSane
er....you can. shomer neggia doesn't apply to direct family.

nothing wrong with having friends who are guys, or hugging. you can hug without touching.
Hugging without touching? Um... How?
And watch the quote trees, b'vakasha
only skin to skin is an issue.

so if one of you is wearing a long sleeve shirt...
where are you getting this stuff? no offense but this is probbaly the single most incorrect thing youve ever said
sigh...

good point. rolleyes

thanks for stopping me

ZonkotheSane


Kiashana
Crew

PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:31 am


...I'm totally lost right now.
Let's go with this: If I were Orthodox, and actually worried about this stuff, I'd have to throw out half my wardrobe and change summer camps.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:33 am


ZonkotheSane
ScionoftheBlade
ZonkotheSane
Kiashana
ZonkotheSane
er....you can. shomer neggia doesn't apply to direct family.

nothing wrong with having friends who are guys, or hugging. you can hug without touching.
Hugging without touching? Um... How?
And watch the quote trees, b'vakasha
only skin to skin is an issue.

so if one of you is wearing a long sleeve shirt...
where are you getting this stuff? no offense but this is probbaly the single most incorrect thing youve ever said
sigh...

good point. rolleyes

thanks for stopping me
its what I'm here for razz

ScionoftheBlade


ScionoftheBlade

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:35 am


Kiashana
...I'm totally lost right now.
Let's go with this: If I were Orthodox, and actually worried about this stuff, I'd have to throw out half my wardrobe and change summer camps.
probably but don't worry about it, their is a firm jewish ideal that you can't be tested in things you can't pass and all things are relative to the individual. So if your worried about the whole hell thing then No god doesn't expect you to burn your wardrobe and change your life overnight
PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:35 am


ScionoftheBlade
Kiashana
...I'm totally lost right now.
Let's go with this: If I were Orthodox, and actually worried about this stuff, I'd have to throw out half my wardrobe and change summer camps.
probably but don't worry about it, their is a firm jewish ideal that you can't be tested in things you can't pass and all things are relative to the individual. So if your worried about the whole hell thing then No god doesn't expect you to burn your wardrobe and change your life overnight
Scion, we're not Christian rolleyes I know that.

Kiashana
Crew


ScionoftheBlade

PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:32 am


Kiashana
ScionoftheBlade
Kiashana
...I'm totally lost right now.
Let's go with this: If I were Orthodox, and actually worried about this stuff, I'd have to throw out half my wardrobe and change summer camps.
probably but don't worry about it, their is a firm jewish ideal that you can't be tested in things you can't pass and all things are relative to the individual. So if your worried about the whole hell thing then No god doesn't expect you to burn your wardrobe and change your life overnight
Scion, we're not Christian rolleyes I know that.
you'd be suprised how many don't

but good point its hard for me to remember who I"m talking to sweatdrop
PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:23 pm


ScionoftheBlade
Kiashana
ScionoftheBlade
Kiashana
...I'm totally lost right now.
Let's go with this: If I were Orthodox, and actually worried about this stuff, I'd have to throw out half my wardrobe and change summer camps.
probably but don't worry about it, their is a firm jewish ideal that you can't be tested in things you can't pass and all things are relative to the individual. So if your worried about the whole hell thing then No god doesn't expect you to burn your wardrobe and change your life overnight
Scion, we're not Christian rolleyes I know that.
you'd be suprised how many don't

but good point its hard for me to remember who I"m talking to sweatdrop
Yea- I may be Conservative, but I'm pretty educated.

Kiashana
Crew


darkphoenix1247
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:17 am


Kiashana
...I'm totally lost right now.
Let's go with this: If I were Orthodox, and actually worried about this stuff, I'd have to throw out half my wardrobe and change summer camps.


For me it's not necessarily with camps and stuff, but I mean, come on! How am I supposed to spar guys and learn takedowns without touching them? xp

It's not like I wrestle guys or anything like that, but I just agree with Kia's view on this one. No offense, but touching a member of the opposite sex hardly means you're having sex with them. I'm sorry if this offends anybody sweatdrop
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