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Politics are sad, I can't think of any way of instigating a better functioning and fairer system, but it's still frustrating nonetheless.

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So you are the baby? I always wanted to be the baby, though I wanted older brothers, not older sisters.

Teenagers are more cruel, kids...most of them are really sweet. Even those that aren't, there isn't the same sort of manipulative maliciousness that adults have. Teenagers are just too ruled by their ids, I mean I wouldn't want to be stuck with them for eternity, but true acts of evil and cruelty are usually enacted by those who have attained the age and wisdom to know what they are doing.

Those lucky babies, haha. I wouldn't want to be the baby by decades though. I mean even though me and my brother didn't always get along, it was nice to have someone to play with when we could get along. Playing with teens/adults might be intriguing as a child, but it's something different. It was nice to have a peer.

I was a pretty good kid, not necessarily the nicest sister though, sweatdrop . I was just way to jealous most of the time. The only Bernstein Bear book (I believe that's what they are called) I remember owning was titled something along the lines of The Green Eyed monster, and it was about jealousy. Funny coincidence when I think about it now...took me way too long to learn that lesson, and who knows if I'll ever have a functional relationship with my brother because of it. :sigh:

Oh well, I guess that'll be another criteria for my "ideal" man...he must have siblings I can have awesome family bonds with, hehehe... stressed

Haha, that's the point of the term baby, you are supposed to be the whiny spoiled one... razz , frankly though I know far more whiny spoiled middle children, which goes against all stereotypes.

Yea, I wouldn't want an older sister. Though most of my friends who are within a few years of their sisters are fairly good friends. I have a few who had epic bouts of hatred though.

I think Kits you seemed to be surrounded by many bad people, haha. Or maybe my community is a weird little bubble. I mean middle school girls are the ones who went out of their way to be maliciously mean, and then I guess with my high school there was just SO much fighting. Some of it gang related, I mean in part my elementary school was in a much less impoverished neighborhood than my high school. I mean "little monsters" in perspective, the stuff they do isn't that bad, not as bad as adults who aren't mature are capable of. Yea kids are immature, but it's just the worst of what happens in elementary school for the most part is just not that bad. Also kids are more resilient than adults. Your high school friend sleeps with your boyfriend and you never ever forgive them. Your 2nd grade best friend steals your "boyfriend" and you forget in about a week.

And yea, that sucks with your sister, and if she keeps being a jerk in the future I'd understand wanting to stay distanced from her. But I mean I'm kind of on the opposite end of that stick, my brother won't even talk to me because of how I tormented him when we were kids - when I say resilient I mean in terms of how peers treat you, not in terms of family. I understand how kids hold onto that, because it's different with the people who are supposed to love and protect you. The only defense I have is tha I was an angry and jealous child. I try to be nicer now and now he's a jerk, and I mean it's just stupid if he is going to try to justify this on the way I treated him a decade ago. Cutting off your nose to spite your face, something my mom likes to say a lot. I'm not trying to be cruel to him anymore, I'm trying to be his friend, so he gains nothing by holding onto a grudge, other than bitterness and resentment. It's kind of sad, but I can't take it anymore, so I've kind of given up on him. I want to say I'll be a big enough person that if he wants to stop being a jerk in the future I won't just act like he's acting now and hold him accountable for past behavior in the future. But I guess I do get that pain, and I do get being spiteful, and I get how you feel about your sister. Because I was a jerk to my brother then and he's a jerk to me now. And our parents are always fighting and we're both just alone. The worst my brother did was tell on me for hitting him or doing mean things as well, but, I guess I'd probably understand your sisters perspective better than you. I can't explain it in terms that will make sense or make you feel better, it's not rational. It's just feelings, stupid irrational feelings. That you can't go in the past and take back and change. And then just have to suffer for forever.

Sorry this is getting confused and rambling. I kind of decided recently to give up trying to have a relationship with my brother, he refuses to talk to me pretty much to even try to get him to forgive me for things I did when we were growing up, so I guess it just hits home. Because so many of my friends as we get older are finally getting to be friends with their siblings, and I resent that I can't have that. Especially as I don't even have other siblings that I can just get to know instead, not really.

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I wish I had someone closer to me in age who actually wanted to be my friend. Ah well *mopes*.

I get that, and there are times where yea you have to give up on family, because you just can't have a healthy relationship with them. Personally I'm just mad though because I'm trying to make up for that now, I was a very me me me kid, and a bit of a me me me teen, but I am an adult now and my brother acts like a wounded kid still. But yea, my mom axed her entire family, which makes me sad, and I guess is part of why I feel so upset about my brother, because my dad isn't close to his family either. So the immediate is all I've got. I understand why my mom did it too, I mean she loves her mom, and I love her mom, but I understand that her mom has problems, and abuses my mother because of them. And my mom can't just ignore it and go on anymore, so yea, she cut ties completely. There was no redeeming member of her family for her to hold onto.

Ah family TMI, don't be sorry I totally did it too, once you get started it all kind of tumbles out and then blaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.

Maybe, but I mean it's been over half a decade since I was even slightly antagonistic, sarcastic and teasing maybe. But I'm like that with everyone so it's not picking on him, it's just being myself. But yea, maybe 21 isn't quite old enough yet, I dunno. I worry about my brother, something isn't right with him, my dad was actually talking to me about it yesterday. I mean he's a doctor of psychiatry (true he hasn't worked in over a decade, I won't get into that because that's more negative TMI) and he can't get a grasp on my brother. I dunno though, I just don't know.

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That is just what I meant, that there isn't really a stereotypical pattern that can be believed on how children act based on chronological ranking.

I hate middle school, I loved high school but there were tons of awful people. I'm much more aware as an adult of humanities failings than I was as a child, nothing as a child seemed a big deal. I mean in part I never specifically had problems, but it's just, most people don't care about childhood. School is relatively easy, you have minimal responsibilities comparatively, and attachments are just loose and almost impersonal. Children are just so much more self-contained, and thus harder to offend. The only people I know who truly hated childhood - because the one thing about childhood is true hatred is not an actual emotion, it was their home life/family that caused that, and that's not something they aged out of.

I assumed that was the case, just kind of venting my own feelings about grudges. The fact that she is still like that is reflective of that this isn't a grudge anyhow, it's a current continuous problem.

My immediate family definitely has it's problems, but agreed, it could be much worse.

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I do not think of 7th and 8th as part of elementary school at all, because those are the worst 2 years, I mean pre-teen/adolescent - those aren't kids. So yes, if you are lumping that in, then I understand where your coming from. Usually when I say elementary school and kids I'm talking about K - 4th, maybe K-5th/6th, never 7th and 8th. 12/13 year olds are not kids, they are tweens and teens, and yes, they are the very definition of cruelty. Although, at the same time, with them it's the box they are thurst into with all their confusing new hormones swirling. Once you have hormones swirling you aren't a kid, you will never be a kid again. Stupid hormones. And not just as a sex thing, I mean hormones are responsible for such a wide spectrum of misery.

Haha, that's good ^_^. I admit I have a hard time letting things go, but I at least try to not let that affect how I act in the future, try to take things as they come rather than as they were...even if there is a little nagging voice at the back of my mind that is still bitter and hurt.