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 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 7:05 pm
Yehudah ZonkotheSane wear a mogen dovid necklace? (star of david, for those who don't know) well not really. The other day i wore my Hamesh hand and my Chai. And i braught somethign to this ladies car and you know i was kind and polite with her as always, then when i put the thing in her car she says "Bless you child, May Jesus Bless you and your smile, have a Merry Christmas" domokun she tipped well thow. yeah, i know. she was probably being nice and hinting for you to repent for jesus hath diedst for thy sins, and thus loveth you. the last day of public school (in which i am proud to have worn a yalmuke, tzitzis, and perhaps an overly expressed opinion in social studies sweatdrop ) everybody was getting yearbooks signed, and this one guy wrote "jesus loves you" in mine. i just smiled wrote something about jesus being gay, and showed it to him. it was funny, and he took it in good taste.
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:21 pm
ok so maybe that was a bit to far zonko, i mean he didn't say anything bad about you being jewish like die jew or something like that
so you can't raelly have the right to write that
but what you could have done was maybe put something in hebrew about him being a stupid moron.. that way he doesn't know what it means and you proove that you are smarter than him so ha
and and you wore your kippah i'm so happy 4laugh this like totally almost makes up for you being a negitive poopy pants
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:47 am
Zonko- It doesn't matter if you accept Jesus or not. If someone says something like that, even if you're obviously Jewish, just grin and bear it. I spent three years delivering canned food for Christmas (based out of my JEWISH day school) to a predominantly black community where most of the older members of the community were very religious. I can't count how many times we got wished a "merry Christmas", were told "God bless you!" or "Jesus bless you!" It's their way of thanking you. And since you can tell they appreciate what you've done for them, why's it matter how they say it? Would you prefer they didn't thank you at all or just slammed the door in your face?
Then again, my Jewish identity comes a lot more from social action than my beliefs. I'm fairly agnostic.
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:45 am
While I understand that for many of us the whole "Merry Christmas"/"God bless you"/"Jesus loves you" thing gets annoying, it's something we have to deal with. If it offends you that much, move to Israel.
I'm totally serious about that. If you want to live in America, you have to accept that most of the community around us is Christian. People wishing you "Merry Christmas" is an expression of goodwill, and saying anything rude to them because you aren't Christian just makes things harder for us. I assume most of you have heard about the conservative Christians who are fighting against "Happy Holidays". They blame us for a lot of that, and by getting upset over being told "Merry Christmas" we aren't helping.
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:24 pm
.... sweatdrop
ok, i think poeple kinda got the wrong idea from my post. kinda. silverah-its a great thing you did, and of course in that situation, you would be right: just say thank you. however, this was casual, between classmates. now that i think about it, it probably wasn't the most mature thing i could have done, but i won't lose any sleep over it. if i lost sleep over every stupid thing i've in my life (hell, in the last year) i'd have my own type of insomnia. i'm a work in progress. i can admit that.
anyway, the point of my post was that theres no point in getting angry. either smile and say thank you, or at least take it in good humor.
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:12 pm
I just kind of assume they don't know any better and reply, "Thank you!" and smile. It's nice to be thought of. But it does get a bit annoying after a while.
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 8:09 am
Kiashana While I understand that for many of us the whole "Merry Christmas"/"God bless you"/"Jesus loves you" thing gets annoying, it's something we have to deal with. If it offends you that much, move to Israel. I'm totally serious about that. If you want to live in America, you have to accept that most of the community around us is Christian. People wishing you "Merry Christmas" is an expression of goodwill, and saying anything rude to them because you aren't Christian just makes things harder for us. I assume most of you have heard about the conservative Christians who are fighting against "Happy Holidays". They blame us for a lot of that, and by getting upset over being told "Merry Christmas" we aren't helping. thank you, I agree. Just got out of a debate about how people are actually insulted by teh term "Happy Holidays", and if I'm guessing correctly, it isn't quite over yet sweatdrop Though, I was wanting to put "Happy Hannukah" in my Sig, but I'm wanting it in proper Hebrew, though I don't know any Hebrew. Could anyone here be of assistance? sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:45 am
Se Ga Takai 3nodding thank you, I agree. Just got out of a debate about how people are actually insulted by teh term "Happy Holidays", and if I'm guessing correctly, it isn't quite over yet sweatdrop Though, I was wanting to put "Happy Hannukah" in my Sig, but I'm wanting it in proper Hebrew, though I don't know any Hebrew. Could anyone here be of assistance? sweatdrop Well, I can't really help you with a Hebrew font, but the Hebrew word for 'Happy' is Sa'me'ach, and Channukah is feminine, so it would be 'Channukah S'mechah' I think. But don't trust me on it. If you wait until after Shabbas, one of our Yeshiva boys might be better to ask about that.
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:52 am
That's the correct phrase, Kia.
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 10:07 am
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 3:55 pm
Kiashana Se Ga Takai 3nodding thank you, I agree. Just got out of a debate about how people are actually insulted by teh term "Happy Holidays", and if I'm guessing correctly, it isn't quite over yet sweatdrop Though, I was wanting to put "Happy Hannukah" in my Sig, but I'm wanting it in proper Hebrew, though I don't know any Hebrew. Could anyone here be of assistance? sweatdrop Well, I can't really help you with a Hebrew font, but the Hebrew word for 'Happy' is Sa'me'ach, and Channukah is feminine, so it would be 'Channukah S'mechah' I think. But don't trust me on it. If you wait until after Shabbas, one of our Yeshiva boys might be better to ask about that. you're pretty much right, but its said "chag channukah sa'me'ach". at least thats how i've heard it.
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:52 am
Yeah I read some of letters from Christians in my community in our newspaper, and some of it was really bad. My personal favorite was "the vicious minority that is keeping us from saying Merry Christmas in peace." Of course, they mean anyone that isn't Christian, not just Jews, but that's scary. 'vicious?!' Now we're vicious for wanting to celebrate our own holidays?
I get 'Merry Christmas' a lot. Usually I just reply 'Happy Holidays', but sometimes I'll tell them I'm Jewish. I actually had someone not believe me once. It was pretty sad.
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:19 pm
psychocats Yeah I read some of letters from Christians in my community in our newspaper, and some of it was really bad. My personal favorite was "the vicious minority that is keeping us from saying Merry Christmas in peace." Of course, they mean anyone that isn't Christian, not just Jews, but that's scary. 'vicious?!' Now we're vicious for wanting to celebrate our own holidays? I get 'Merry Christmas' a lot. Usually I just reply 'Happy Holidays', but sometimes I'll tell them I'm Jewish. I actually had someone not believe me once. It was pretty sad. y'know, that never happens to me. i wonder why. maybe, just maybe, its because i act and look jewish? nah.
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:40 am
ZonkotheSane psychocats Yeah I read some of letters from Christians in my community in our newspaper, and some of it was really bad. My personal favorite was "the vicious minority that is keeping us from saying Merry Christmas in peace." Of course, they mean anyone that isn't Christian, not just Jews, but that's scary. 'vicious?!' Now we're vicious for wanting to celebrate our own holidays? I get 'Merry Christmas' a lot. Usually I just reply 'Happy Holidays', but sometimes I'll tell them I'm Jewish. I actually had someone not believe me once. It was pretty sad. y'know, that never happens to me. i wonder why. maybe, just maybe, its because i act and look jewish? nah. I've actually had someone not believe I was Jewish recently. I look Jewish enough, but I guess if you don't know the stereotype... And I wear a magen david every day. But the kicker, of course, was that this guy said something like "Wait- you're really Jewish?" after we had all been joking about how I'm 'the Jew', and the friends I was with tend to great me with something like, "Hey Jew"
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:38 pm
Kiashana ZonkotheSane psychocats Yeah I read some of letters from Christians in my community in our newspaper, and some of it was really bad. My personal favorite was "the vicious minority that is keeping us from saying Merry Christmas in peace." Of course, they mean anyone that isn't Christian, not just Jews, but that's scary. 'vicious?!' Now we're vicious for wanting to celebrate our own holidays? I get 'Merry Christmas' a lot. Usually I just reply 'Happy Holidays', but sometimes I'll tell them I'm Jewish. I actually had someone not believe me once. It was pretty sad. y'know, that never happens to me. i wonder why. maybe, just maybe, its because i act and look jewish? nah. I've actually had someone not believe I was Jewish recently. I look Jewish enough, but I guess if you don't know the stereotype... And I wear a magen david every day. But the kicker, of course, was that this guy said something like "Wait- you're really Jewish?" after we had all been joking about how I'm 'the Jew', and the friends I was with tend to great me with something like, "Hey Jew" i don't mean stereotypically. i have blonde hair, blue eyes for example. i meant the way i dress, among other things.
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