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 Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:18 am
The rose in spring Don't give me the idea that we have rights. We don't have rights Agreed.
It reminds me of that old saying. "Freedom of speech is only ok until someone says something you don't like".
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:39 am
LMAO! The first alex jones video is deleted
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:13 am
X Sai Kaitou The rose in spring Don't give me the idea that we have rights. We don't have rights Agreed.
It reminds me of that old saying. "Freedom of speech is only ok until someone says something you don't like". Actually, I have to disagree with you guys on this. If you are the kind of person who gets offended when someone disagrees with you, then ignore this post: The mere fact that this guild exists and the mere fact that you can do research on these theories is proof that we do still have freedom of speech/press. Perhaps we are a bit censored, but still, everything hasn't been censored obviously, because if they were, this guild wouldn't exist at all. Now, please do not respond to me with something like: "Oh no they've brainwashed you already", or "That's what they want you to think". However, I know someone is bound to say it, so go ahead. This is my personal opinion and you are free to respectfully disagree.
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:17 am
firelily3 X Sai Kaitou The rose in spring Don't give me the idea that we have rights. We don't have rights Agreed.
It reminds me of that old saying. "Freedom of speech is only ok until someone says something you don't like". Actually, I have to disagree with you guys on this. If you are the kind of person who gets offended when someone disagrees with you, then ignore this post: The mere fact that this guild exists and the mere fact that you can do research on these theories is proof that we do still have freedom of speech/press. Perhaps we are a bit censored, but still, everything hasn't been censored obviously, because if they were, this guild wouldn't exist at all. Now, please do not respond to me with something like: "Oh no they've brainwashed you already", or "That's what they want you to think". However, I know someone is bound to say it, so go ahead. This is my personal opinion and you are free to respectfully disagree. Freedom to speak will never cease from existance. We will always be able to say what we want. Now freedom from repercussions for using your freedom to speak is far different. If you research into it you'll quickly see people being persecuted for their speech.
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:20 am
Don't you know the internet is the best spy tool? Let the people spy on themselves haha
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:22 am
Azkeel firelily3 X Sai Kaitou The rose in spring Don't give me the idea that we have rights. We don't have rights Agreed.
It reminds me of that old saying. "Freedom of speech is only ok until someone says something you don't like". Actually, I have to disagree with you guys on this. If you are the kind of person who gets offended when someone disagrees with you, then ignore this post: The mere fact that this guild exists and the mere fact that you can do research on these theories is proof that we do still have freedom of speech/press. Perhaps we are a bit censored, but still, everything hasn't been censored obviously, because if they were, this guild wouldn't exist at all. Now, please do not respond to me with something like: "Oh no they've brainwashed you already", or "That's what they want you to think". However, I know someone is bound to say it, so go ahead. This is my personal opinion and you are free to respectfully disagree. Freedom to speak will never cease from existance. We will always be able to say what we want. Now freedom from repercussions for using your freedom to speak is far different. If you research into it you'll quickly see people being persecuted for their speech. Ahh, I see. Thank you for clearing that up. However, what I was referring to was that we actually do have rights, even if we will be persecuted for pursuing said rights.
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:26 am
firelily3 Azkeel firelily3 X Sai Kaitou The rose in spring Don't give me the idea that we have rights. We don't have rights Agreed.
It reminds me of that old saying. "Freedom of speech is only ok until someone says something you don't like". Actually, I have to disagree with you guys on this. If you are the kind of person who gets offended when someone disagrees with you, then ignore this post: The mere fact that this guild exists and the mere fact that you can do research on these theories is proof that we do still have freedom of speech/press. Perhaps we are a bit censored, but still, everything hasn't been censored obviously, because if they were, this guild wouldn't exist at all. Now, please do not respond to me with something like: "Oh no they've brainwashed you already", or "That's what they want you to think". However, I know someone is bound to say it, so go ahead. This is my personal opinion and you are free to respectfully disagree. Freedom to speak will never cease from existance. We will always be able to say what we want. Now freedom from repercussions for using your freedom to speak is far different. If you research into it you'll quickly see people being persecuted for their speech. Ahh, I see. Thank you for clearing that up. However, what I was referring to was that we actually do have rights, even if we will be persecuted for pursuing said rights. Well, if you know the constitution you'll realize our country has strayed far from it's original constitutional design.
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:32 am
Actually, I do have my own conspiracy on this matter that will remain a theory, because there is no way to really prove it:
I believe that the goverment (of the United States) will rarely (but it has happened, ie: the philadelphia experiment, area 51, etc.) censor things directly, because it is much smarter to let these conspiracies out into the open, where they will be ridiculed and lumped together with silly things (in my opinion) like the boogyman and santa clause. People who don't agree with the mass view will forever be ridiculed and called crazy and a conspiracy theorist. This will happen even if everyone suddenly questions what people are telling them, because whoever doesn't question these things will be ostracized. So the government doesn't need to directly censor anything. We're doing a pretty good job of doing that ourselves. Once again, this is only my opinion and I have no proof to back it up.
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:41 am
Azkeel firelily3 Azkeel firelily3 X Sai Kaitou The rose in spring Don't give me the idea that we have rights. We don't have rights Agreed.
It reminds me of that old saying. "Freedom of speech is only ok until someone says something you don't like". Actually, I have to disagree with you guys on this. If you are the kind of person who gets offended when someone disagrees with you, then ignore this post: The mere fact that this guild exists and the mere fact that you can do research on these theories is proof that we do still have freedom of speech/press. Perhaps we are a bit censored, but still, everything hasn't been censored obviously, because if they were, this guild wouldn't exist at all. Now, please do not respond to me with something like: "Oh no they've brainwashed you already", or "That's what they want you to think". However, I know someone is bound to say it, so go ahead. This is my personal opinion and you are free to respectfully disagree. Freedom to speak will never cease from existance. We will always be able to say what we want. Now freedom from repercussions for using your freedom to speak is far different. If you research into it you'll quickly see people being persecuted for their speech. Ahh, I see. Thank you for clearing that up. However, what I was referring to was that we actually do have rights, even if we will be persecuted for pursuing said rights. Well, if you know the constitution you'll realize our country has strayed far from it's original constitutional design. Yes, and I believe that in some ways that is a good thing (ie: women's rights) However, for the most part, I believe that our forefathers would turn in their graves if they saw what was becoming of our country. But that is not the issue I was debating. I was merely stating that we do, in fact, have rights. No matter how insignificant those rights appear to be. For instance, I have the right to say that I want to shoot the president, however I will be punished and possibly imprisoned for this. I am not saying that I want to shoot the president, even though I think he's doing a bad job, but it really isn't his fault considering the mess certain former presidents have left in their wake, but I am saying that I have the right to say it. In fact I have the right to say anything, anywhere, even if I will suffer consequences for it.
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:47 am
You're just getting into this stuff huh? lol
If you think it's the presidents doing things and it's them messing thhings up. Well it goes alot deeper then that. 3nodding
I say the last real president was Kennedy and he was killed for a reason.
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:09 am
Azkeel You're just getting into this stuff huh? lol If you think it's the presidents doing things and it's them messing thhings up. Well it goes alot deeper then that. 3nodding I say the last real president was Kennedy and he was killed for a reason. Lol, I think I like this guild. And, actually I firmly believe that the presidents are merely sheep who are controlled by the rich families higher up and the people in charge of their political parties. Personally my favourite president is John Adams, because he choose to do what he believed in rather than blindly follow his political party, and was hated for that. Kennedy and his brother literally saved us from a nuclear war with Russia, because of some certain people in the military who refused to stop flying our planes over Cuba. I also believe that these same people had Kennedy killed because of this. I believe that any time a president refuses to be a puppet, they will be exterminated.
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:51 am
firelily3 Azkeel You're just getting into this stuff huh? lol If you think it's the presidents doing things and it's them messing thhings up. Well it goes alot deeper then that. 3nodding I say the last real president was Kennedy and he was killed for a reason. Lol, I think I like this guild. And, actually I firmly believe that the presidents are merely sheep who are controlled by the rich families higher up and the people in charge of their political parties. Personally my favourite president is John Adams, because he choose to do what he believed in rather than blindly follow his political party, and was hated for that. Kennedy and his brother literally saved us from a nuclear war with Russia, because of some certain people in the military who refused to stop flying our planes over Cuba. I also believe that these same people had Kennedy killed because of this. I believe that any time a president refuses to be a puppet, they will be exterminated. Most awesome. I don't have a favorite president really but I like them when they speak the truth. It's all about the truth; never stop persuing it.
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:57 pm
firelily3 Actually, I do have my own conspiracy on this matter that will remain a theory, because there is no way to really prove it: I believe that the goverment (of the United States) will rarely (but it has happened, ie: the philadelphia experiment, area 51, etc.) censor things directly, because it is much smarter to let these conspiracies out into the open, where they will be ridiculed and lumped together with silly things (in my opinion) like the boogyman and santa clause. People who don't agree with the mass view will forever be ridiculed and called crazy and a conspiracy theorist. This will happen even if everyone suddenly questions what people are telling them, because whoever doesn't question these things will be ostracized. So the government doesn't need to directly censor anything. We're doing a pretty good job of doing that ourselves. Once again, this is only my opinion and I have no proof to back it up. You and I have a similar line of thinking. Why would they want to censor conspiracy theory? No one in the mainstream believes it and because of this it only helps to keep the secrets.
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:15 pm
The rose in spring Don't give me the idea that we have rights. We don't have rights You only have as many rights as you know of mrgreen Honestly instead of reading all of these beside the point 'theories' people should be reading the constitution. You'd be surprised how much freedom you actually have.
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:20 pm
Tympest So, my post from yesterday was removed for one reason or another and I got these lovely PMs from your own Shuyajin: Guild Your problem is with me, or rather mine with you. This isn't an act of suppressing your speech or anything, this is you being a ******** idiotard and me not wanting to read your stupid bullshit. Do you understand the difference? Course not. Everything you say is stupid. But you have a point. Ill take my problem and just put you on ignore and just not pay attention to your idiocy. I would just kick you from the guild because I don't believe you belong there, but its not my place to do that. But why don't you do the guild a favor and keep your stupid-ness at bay and only click submit when you have something smart to say! I hope you respond to this..and prove my point. Re: Despite my previous PM, I've come to terms with the knowledge that it's not your fault your stupid. Alex Jones shows how rampant the dumbing down has become. Oh well, I still say that its in one's full choice what they write and submit. Its not like randomly blurting out something dumb. But whatever. anyways Your still on ignore with Scimancer and will stay that way indefinitely. I just don't want to have to read what you happen to say, ever Now, it is a given that people are likely to disagree with me and I with them. It is also a given that you as a collective might be a bit put off by my initially asking you to prove that you aren't as bad as the monolithic government you claim is trying to steal all of our rights. Taking those into account, I still fail to understand your insistence on making sure that I am not heard. If you are going to vilify any government that limits or out right bans freedoms of speech,and if you are going to make any form of fuss about censorship you might want to start by looking at your own guild's policies on dissenting view points.
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