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Lorelei Yeager


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:50 pm


Moonblossom
They get hot no matter where they are. I used to use a second one around my waist and it was equally unpleasant XD

It's your call, I just thought I should let you know smile


Thanks for the warning. I just tried on my Yukata and it still fits! whee whee whee

The problem is, I don't have a Kimono Hanger, so my Yukata is kind of wrinkly. Once I get the hanger, I'll throw it into the wash by itself than air-dry it on the hanger. I know it's 100% Cotton, but I'm scared that if I throw it in the dryer, it'll turn into a bleeding mess.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:59 pm


I'd wash it in cold water, then just hang to dry.

Do you fold it in the "proper" manner? I have about 30 kimono right now, definitely no room to hang them all, so I fold them into rectangles and store them in an armoire, and they stay quite free of wrinkles.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:05 pm


It's still on a western hanger. I've never folded my Yukata before.

I need to learn how to do that if it'll keep my Yukata nice. Do you have any tutorials on how to do that? I didn't find any in the link list.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:35 pm


http://www.thetatamiroom.com/kimono_folding.htm

This is for komon, but it's the method I use for yukata as well smile

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:56 pm


Thanks.

I have to get off to the evening. Talk to you later...
PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:49 pm


Sorry for the double post... gonk gonk gonk

I'm really upset at Wal-Mart and Target right now. I was hoping to buy a white half-slip skirt and a white sport short-sleeve shirt, but neither store had my size, had it at all, or the skirt was too short.

It looks like I'm going to need that Kimono Undergarment after all. stressed stressed stressed


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:46 pm


I don't have a proper hadajuban, so I just wear a tank under my juban (when I'm doing proper kitsuke; last Wednesday, all of my clothes were in the wash, so I was running around the dorm in my yukata without much on underneath redface ). I'm always shocked at how expensive hadajuban are, considering a tank top and a slip (or even just a pair of shorts) do the job just as well. Or, heck, I might just head over to the linens section of Goodwill and pick up some old bedsheets and make my own; I've already got a susoyoke, so I'd just have to make the top half.

I'm hoping to someday buy a compression vest, the sort that FTM transmen wear; my girls also weigh in at about 34 F, and it seems like no matter how much I try to hide them for proper kitsuke, they insist on being counted present. It wreaks havoc on keeping your collars crisp and neat in the back... stare And really, there's no way I'd ever find a proper kimono bra that would fit me; most Asian women don't have the proportions of Tifa Lockhart.

I don't use datejime when I wear kimono. Mostly because I haven't bought any, but when I tie my himo, I just do a single overhand knot, then I pull the two free ends back in the direction that they originally started and tuck them under; it's less noticeable than a bow or other knots (so it doesn't need to be hidden under the datejime), and it's more secure, since the knot doesn't start to slip when you're messing with the loops. It's a trick I learned from my sensei when she was playing with my obi one day after class. (Still, my sensei had a very nice silk datejime; if I'm ever to buy some, I'll definitely be going that route.)


...In more recent news, I bought a gorgeous blue Iro Tomesode (it's a Taisho beauty), a white and blue fukuro obi (I like them, no matter how hard they are to tie), and A FREAKING DARK BLUE IROMUJI. I'm a very happy camper. I also found a juban with sleeves long enough to match my furisode! That made me an even happier camper, since my current juban sleeves are about 10 cm too short, and they look a little silly.

And I justified all of these purchases because I saved $125 on textbooks for this semester. (And my textbook stipend from the G.I. Bill will eventually come in...which I will probably use for more 'Japanese materials', since I've already paid for my books. XD)
PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:18 pm


I set aside about $100.00 for a hanger, Yukata slip set with a Koshi-himo, a velcro DateJime, and a pre-tied Cho-Cho Obi. I don't think you'll every see me in a Kurotomesode, but because of my size, if I want a tomesode-sleeved Kimono, I'd have to get it custom made.

Now, I did find some nice fabric I'd like to be made into a Tomesode. You can find three of my favorite fabrics here. I like the kites, but the lines and bubbles are a good and close second.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:19 am


Oooh, I'm looking at that shibori crane bolt, right there, it's gorgeous. lol Though with a pattern woven in, the wouldn't be considered tomesode, but iromuji (which I generally like better, for the pure fact that there's color in them).

I've only seen a few kurotomesode that took my breath away. Most of the ones which end up getting sold have very subtle designs along the veeeery bottom hem (so they're basically formal wear for someone about my grandmother's age). I mean, I like black, but I've already got a black kimono (too black; it's mofuku lol), so I don't need one that's just barely not all black.

You could probably get most of that for under $100, depending on where you look to buy kimono stuff. Kyoto Collection on eBay has a 'Yukata Accessories' kit that has a Hadajuban set, koshihimo, a korin belt (to replace a second himo), and an obi ita for a pretty good package price, and they also sell very nice kimono hangers (I own two). Sadly, they only sell pre-tied men's obi (because a man's obi knot is just so complicated. lol). I'm all about kimono bargain hunting. lol

What you could probably do is, if you ever find a good bargain on cloth by the yard here in the West, stock up on it. There are pattern guides to be found online for cutting equivalent kimono width strips from a Western bolt of fabric. By letting the okumi be wider, you could probably manage to make a kimono with relatively 'standard' panel sizes that would still fit you. Then just give it a lining, and voila. :3 (Of course, I've never sewed a kimono, so your mileage may vary; my grandma bought a bolt of yukata cloth, though, and we're going to try making it this summer.)
PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:32 pm


Good point. I got my funds today, so I have to wait for my account to transfer to my PayPal Account.

I was so excited about all of this, that I bought my Kimono Hanger this morning.

Update on the Yukata Workshop I'm planning for Spring Fling at my local community college - I got a volunteer to wear my Yukata and show everyone how you put one on. My next problem is, after getting all the parts together, is getting Yukata information down on paper and printing it into a reasonable presentation.

I've also decided to make the Workshop hands on and interactive. I still have to show the girl what I'm going to be doing. She says she doesn't mind touchy-ness, but I'm securing a Koshi-Himo under her bust, and I don't like the idea of touch another woman's bust. It's rude. gonk gonk gonk


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:34 am


Just popping in to say hi cuz I haven't really posted.

Nice to meet some other kimono lovers!

Re: Bust size, I've started using sarashi, and I've not really had any trouble with the ladies (32/34 G) once I've dressed. I do also tend to use a lot of ties, so maybe I overcompensate to keep the collars in place? I don't know.

I also use the velcro datejime, and I don't have a problem with them; they're the only kind I've used. I usually had a ton of padding, so having a rubber datejime didn't really do anything. I guess I just got used to it or something.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:05 pm


Eri-Sugata collar for me. I'm sorry, but I don't have the patience fo a full Juban under my Kimono/Yukata underwear.

Quick and easy for me. Time is a huge issue with me, as well as patience. The collar just fits my personality a bit better.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:29 am


@ Joseph: It's rude if you don't have permission. I know it'll be awkward, but if you remain professional and don't mention that you might have accidentally touched while tying, it won't matter. (Certainly don't say what my sensei said when she was tying my obi one day, 'Japanese women don't have this problem! *grabs my breasts for emphasis*' XDD) Or, if it makes you uncomfortable, you could teach her how to tie it instead. :3

@ Eleryth: How far down does the sarashi let you compress? I know I'm never going to get the prepubescent boy look when I bind, but even when I go whole hog with binding, I still have a noticeable bust. (Wow, all of us in this group have big girls, don't we? XDDD)
PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:22 pm


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Transfer already damn it! I've got to get the accessories from eBay soon or I won't be able to show my test subject how to put a Yukata on. scream scream scream

EDIT - The transfer just happened. I got finished buying all my Yukata items. Now all I need to do is wait for the order to be sent. whee whee whee


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:18 pm


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Transfer already damn it! I've got to get the accessories from eBay soon or I won't be able to show my test subject how to put a Yukata on. scream scream scream

EDIT - The transfer just happened. I got finished buying all my Yukata items. Now all I need to do is wait for the order to be sent. whee whee whee
Most eBay merchants in Japan are pretty snappy with getting your orders out. :3 (They also tend to be very understanding about things like multiple auctions ending at different times, and they all try very hard with their English.)

My biggest danger is that I have my Paypal tied directly to my bank account, which means that I have no roadblocks to me spending all of my money. XDDD
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