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ScionoftheBlade

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:03 pm


Well as one Ashkenazi to another I would just say don't take the label to seriously, find someone your comfortable with and until then you can work on general stuff and basics without worry about doing it wrong being "bad".
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:20 pm


ScionoftheBlade
P.S. Most of the minutia aren't that important. Getting the basics is better and prayer is uniform (I recommend Artscroll, though it can be expensive they are amazing and include all the prayer laws, in the back as well as easy to follow instructions about the prayers)

Again, there aren't nearly as many variations as you assume.

Oh, there are.
A joke: Two Jews are stranded on a desert island, just the two of them. When they are rescued, three synagogues are found. One Jew explains, "That's my Synagogue, That's His Synagogue, and that's the one that neither of us will go to."
There are by no means hundreds of groups and subsects, but there are hundreds of ways to do anything.
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For example:
Q.) "How do you light Shabbat Candles?"

A1.) "Always light the left one first as the left side of the body, the heart. Do the blessing first."
A2.) "Always light the left one first as the left side of the body, the heart. Do the blessing after."
A3.) "Always light the right one first, as it is like Israel in the East. Do the Blessing first."
A4.)"Always light the right one first, as it is like Israel in the East. Do the Blessing first."
A5.)"Always light the right one for the East when East of Israel, otherwise the Left for East or both at the same time in Israel. Just do the blessing first."
A6.)"Always light the right one for the East when East of Israel, otherwise the Left for East or both at the same time in Israel. Just do the blessing first."
A7.)"It doesn't matter which candle you light first, just do the blessing first."
A8.) "It doesn't matter which candle you light first, just do the blessing after and only after."
A9.)"Which candle you light first and when the blessing is done doesn't matter."

Okay, I made up all of those besides A8, which I was under the impression was the one that is usuallly followed, but you get the point. We've got thousands of years of this back and forth, and I've got to find a rabbi.

It's funny. When I was talking about this with my Judaics teacher, he said that because I am Rabbi-less, I can ask a rabi a question and if I don't get a desirable answer, I can just ask another and another until I get a desirable answer. Which is not really good. xp

Lumanny the Space Jew

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:25 pm


ScionoftheBlade
Well as one Ashkenazi to another I would just say don't take the label to seriously, find someone your comfortable with and until then you can work on general stuff and basics without worry about doing it wrong being "bad".

It's never wrong, I suppose, because one is always right to somebody, with all the Jews out there.
I'm just kind of shocked by this funny and scary new development.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:01 pm


The only thing your teacher didn't mention is if you follow one thing the Rabbi said you should follow what he says about other things as well.

There are dozens of such jokes but the differences are really minimal. My wife's family davens in an incredibly chassidic shul and although it isn't my preference I get along with them well enough and davening there doesn't invalidate my davening.

ScionoftheBlade


kingpinsqeezels

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:10 pm


Why do you have to have someone to tell you what's right or wrong? We have free will for a reason Lummany. smile
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:52 pm


ScionoftheBlade
The only thing your teacher didn't mention is if you follow one thing the Rabbi said you should follow what he says about other things as well.

He said quite the opposite. xd

Lumanny the Space Jew

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:53 pm


kingpinsqeezels
Why do you have to have someone to tell you what's right or wrong? We have free will for a reason Lummany. smile

gonk Because I can't decide all those little things myself, I'll go insane!!
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:00 pm


Lumanny the Space Jew
ScionoftheBlade
The only thing your teacher didn't mention is if you follow one thing the Rabbi said you should follow what he says about other things as well.

He said quite the opposite. xd
That's quite amusing. It doesn't work that way except regarding Minhagim. In theory you have no Minhagim and therefor can pick your own. If your following someones advice on halachah you should stick with them. I don't agree with your teacher.

ScionoftheBlade


kingpinsqeezels

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:04 pm


Scion apparently needs to be a rabbi so he can lead the Jewish youth in the right direction. xd
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:16 pm


For many the same reasons I can't be a therapist of any sort that is definitely a no no (I imagine Lumanny will agree)

ScionoftheBlade


Lumanny the Space Jew

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:54 pm


ScionoftheBlade
Lumanny the Space Jew
ScionoftheBlade
The only thing your teacher didn't mention is if you follow one thing the Rabbi said you should follow what he says about other things as well.

He said quite the opposite. xd
That's quite amusing. It doesn't work that way except regarding Minhagim. In theory you have no Minhagim and therefor can pick your own. If your following someones advice on halachah you should stick with them. I don't agree with your teacher.

He may or may not have been joking, I can only rarely tell...
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