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 Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:48 pm
XxXTemporary_IllusionXxX I just really wish they would either destroy there religion and found a new one that fits in with todays world better then there one does right now Making up an entirely new belief system out of the blue has already been done, it's called Evolutionism, and for those who would like to think they know the slightest thing about religion, but don't, the quickest way I could explain it to you is by saying it's the proper term for Atheism. Whether you choose to believe it or not, there is undeniable proof of Jesus' existence in actual official documents made in his lifetime. What Moses did at the red sea was also recorded by a great many people, and is the only explanation for how the people of Egypt crossed it. XxXTemporary_IllusionXxX face itm christianity is outdated and now has a whole planet full off pissed anti-christians, just becuase they cant follwo the teachings of a stupid book that they say they live there lives by Let's review the list of pissed of people shall we? 1. Gays, 2. People who hate religion in all forms, yet know nothing about any of it 3. Politicians .... You really have quite an argument there Especially considering the politicians are only doing it to get the votes of #1 and 2 I can see how people constantly trying to convert you can get annoying, but a respectful declination of their services will suffice instead of hating them. You may not realize, but there are a great many more Christians than you may realize, if not in belief, but in their actions, the ten commandments have been, and are, the basis of virtually every single law in existence, if you do your best to follow them, then in nearly all regards, you are Christian as far as the majority is concerned. Not many people think about this, ever, but just imagine for one second what would happen if we're right, and you're wrong, you're screwed. Now Imagine if Evolutionists are right, nothing, nothing at all, except for your belief of superiority over others being reinforced, which is also the basis of evolutionism itself. Even fewer people realize this, but all the "proof" for Evolutionism, can be explained by other means.
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:31 am
aamiller321 Allright, both of you are generalizing the ENTIRE church. There are hundreds of different denominations of Christians, Methodists, Baptists, Roman Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Lutheran, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc. Not all of them are against gay marriage, abortion, and any other dispute you named. My denomination (Methodist) is currently undecided on ALL of them, so who knows how the ball will roll? The reason people have all of those prejudices about the church is because the Holy Roman Catholic Church is against gay marriage, abortion, and several other issues. People see them as the whole church which, sadly, is not the case. And if you want evidence of God, look at every blade of grass, every mountain, every baby, every beautiful thing in the world. Hard evidence of God would delete the point of faith. And yes, some aspects of Christianity are outdated, but there are people working HARD to fix them. I don't find the Commandments very hard either- Don't kill people, don't steal things, don't pray to other gods, listen to your parents, don't cheat, pretty simple... And Ichigo, Christians and Jews don't hate each other. We disagree on whether Jesus was the savior or not. So I too, proclaim my faith as a Christian. No, not ALL Christians nor all denominations are opposed. When I was younger, I went to a Presbyterian church. they voted that they believed it was ok. My parents promptly removed us from the church where they now go to a Methodist and I stay home. BUT it is the Christian FAITH keeping the GLBT comm oppressed. Because a "marriage is before God." and all that other bull s**t. Know what? Being legally bound is a total different thing from being wed before god in his house. And the majority of gays wanting to get married don't want anything to do with god to begin with. they want to be able to legally leave things to their partner and legally own a home together and get the LEGAL benefits of being married. Because that is all a marriage is, is a piece of paper. I never said that individuals were keeping it from happening. But the problem is, a religion is like a team. When one goes down, they all go down. One church may be fine with it, but the religion as a whole, at this point and time, is majority no and that is holding gays back. Don't want to be known with them? then pull out and form your own religion. That's another thing that bugs the hell out of me. A religion is a community of people with the same beliefs. Christians need to come together and figure out just what the hell their universal beliefs is and stop with this bullshit about denominations and s**t. That tells me right there it's not worth believing in. When the people who believe it can't even figure out how to believe it together. Umm, I don't think you're in a position to tell us what people believe. I know the difference between Protestants and Catholics. My mom was raised catholic before she married a protestant and since dad refused to convert and raise me and my brother catholic, mom was kicked out of the catholic church (how VERY christian of them - I'm sure god doesn't like it - but it's typical christian action) We get our beliefs of christians as a whole from the nut jobs walking around trying to save everyone's souls. Your soul is safe? GREAT! Leave mine alone. I'm perfectly capable of taking care of myself. As for christians. If they weren't shoving themselves into everyone's lives and forcing their beliefs on everyone, then they wouldn't have a bad rep. Don't like it? Then you have two options. 1 - you can somehow make your christian brothers and sisters stop pressing (and I mean ALL christians) ... but since that's not possible here's option 2 - leave your faith. Because it's the only way you'll stop being generalized as a bad person as long as the people of the same beliefs are acting like this. Ever heard of Guilty By Association? There ya go. As for your "evidence" .. please, hand me scientific data that proves to me that Mary got knocked up by God. Please offer me proof that Jesus was born without sperm from a human man. Because it is not possible. No matter how magical your god is. Making a baby is not possible without sperm. And god is not in the making of every baby. If he was, then babies would not be aborted because God would protect the creation. Face it. When I'm with my boyfriend wait for it... -GASP- PREMARITAL SEX D= OH NOES!!! -GASP AGAIN- AND IT'S NOT ALWAYS MISSIONARY POSITION D= God is going to punish me now =/ psssssh anywho... When I'm with my boyfriend, God isn't making me a baby or not. It's all with sperm and egg. It's not magical and it's not rocket science. Christians and Jews think that each other are a mockery to the worship of God BECAUSE they have that disagreement. I know many Jews who really detest, despise, and for a generic word, hate christians and vice versa. The Christian Religion hates anyone who doesn't not accept Jesus as the savior and god as the lord. They don't care if your satanic, athiest, agnostic, buddhist, wiccan, hindu, muslim, whatever... they hate them all and try to force their religion on others to save their immortal soul. I don't care what you believe. I don't care what your faith believes. I want your god damned religion the ******** out of my government. I pay my taxes like everyone else. I want to be able to have my legal rights just like everyone else. It has nothing to do with god or a lack there of plain and simple. We are America, where it is within our constitutional rights to practice whatever religion we wish. So by that, gays should be allowed to marry without touching christianity. Christians have this insecurity complex where if we allow something outside of their beliefs, it will destroy the world. Christians are very intolerant and so not like their christ.
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:15 am
Elektro7 XxXTemporary_IllusionXxX I just really wish they would either destroy there religion and found a new one that fits in with todays world better then there one does right now Making up an entirely new belief system out of the blue has already been done, it's called Evolutionism, and for those who would like to think they know the slightest thing about religion, but don't, the quickest way I could explain it to you is by saying it's the proper term for Atheism. Whether you choose to believe it or not, there is undeniable proof of Jesus' existence in actual official documents made in his lifetime. What Moses did at the red sea was also recorded by a great many people, and is the only explanation for how the people of Egypt crossed it. so, you're saying that if you believe in evolution you HAVE to be athiest. Yeah, that's BRILLIANT. Are you sure you know a lot about religions? Last I checked, lots of people believe in evolution and still had a religious belief. Oh yes, there is proof of Jesus. Hence why I am very proud to say I believe in Jesus. HOWEVER. do I believe that Mary got knocked up with out sperm? no. do I believe some magical invisible man in the sky impregnated her through an angel? no. You know, there are also large reports of the devils face being in the smoke at 911 does that make it any more possible? What about the large case reports of el chupacabra? The New Jersey Devil (I actually believe in this, but a lot don't) Just because a bunch of people report it doesn't make it true. It could have been a local myth passed down through families and just became truth over time. Like how we have folk tales. As for how they crossed. Swimming, if you're dead set that they went over the sea. I mean hell, if you're a fugitive slave, you'd be swimming your happy a** too. Or if you want the more logical explanation, they never crossed the sea went by foot to Israel since you know, it's right there connected to egypt.  Quote: XxXTemporary_IllusionXxX face itm christianity is outdated and now has a whole planet full off pissed anti-christians, just becuase they cant follwo the teachings of a stupid book that they say they live there lives by Let's review the list of pissed of people shall we? 1. Gays, 2. People who hate religion in all forms, yet know nothing about any of it 3. Politicians .... You really have quite an argument there Especially considering the politicians are only doing it to get the votes of #1 and 2 I can see how people constantly trying to convert you can get annoying, but a respectful declination of their services will suffice instead of hating them. You may not realize, but there are a great many more Christians than you may realize, if not in belief, but in their actions, the ten commandments have been, and are, the basis of virtually every single law in existence, if you do your best to follow them, then in nearly all regards, you are Christian as far as the majority is concerned. Not many people think about this, ever, but just imagine for one second what would happen if we're right, and you're wrong, you're screwed. Now Imagine if Evolutionists are right, nothing, nothing at all, except for your belief of superiority over others being reinforced, which is also the basis of evolutionism itself. Even fewer people realize this, but all the "proof" for Evolutionism, can be explained by other means. So, if you're anti-christian you HAVE to hate religion of all kinds =/ that's moronic. I'm pissed off and I do not hate religion at all. In fact it's quite the opposite. You don't have to be a part of the GLBT comm to be pissed they don't have rights. There are plenty of straight people who are appalled by the oppression and outright discrimination towards the GLBT comm's rights. Or, they could stop trying to convert people. Really, is it THAT hard to let people do as they wish? Why should we respectfully decline when christians are coming to my doorstep to give out pamphlets, making me late to class to hand me pamphlets, driving by my work and handing me pamphlets. Old people lecturing me on how finding god is the most rewarding and satisfying thing there is. Why should I be respectful when they aren't respecting me. If they would even just be like "would you like to take a moment" but no, they shove and shove and shove to the point where we are forced to get angry. You don't see satanists going around to everyones doorstep inviting people to church. or jews (I havent seen any jews anyways)... nor buddhist... nothing. Just the christians. All we want is for christians to live their lives and keep their religion out. They are violating human rights with what they're doing AND they're doing it AGAINST their God's word. Did you ever think that your bible's commandments are also common sense and just plain human decency? Just because someone is a good person does not make them christain and you should be ashamed of yourself for even saying such a ludicrous thing. That kind of comparison is like calling a muslim and a christian the same thing because they both have a god. =/ I'm honestly surprised christians haven't yelled at you for that. Being a christian means accepting god and jesus. if you don't do this you are not christian. that's just the end of that. You realize that those rules have been around a LOT longer than christianity? EVERY religion and society has rules like that and christianity has only been around for a little over 2000 years =/ face it, the commandments were ripped off of preexisting rules. hmmm and what if the buddhists were right? or the muslims? or even the romans or wiccans? You keep speaking as if there is only christian and athiest. and its really pissing me off. this is why no one likes christians. because it's all black and white with you. there is no middle ground to you =O oooooo Everyone has thought about this. It's something everyone thinks about when they make their choice to believe or not. Me? I've already stated it. If there is a God, then I will humbly apologize for not believing, then I will scrutinize and say he needs to show less flaw and I will gladly accept my "punishment" in hell. I am NOT athiest as you keep trying to make it sound like (granted you havent addressed me, you're saying anyone who isn't christian becomes athiest) I am agnostic. I will gladly convert to christianity and atone for the way I believed. But I will only do this once I find something that is just so compelling that I cannot find any explanation for it in any other way. Because as long as there are MANY possibilities, there is not one true/correct path and all the "proof" for creationism can be explained in other ways. AND we have a theory for where the very first start came from. You have yet to figure out where your god came from. =3 I'll be here when you realize christians made him up so they had something to believe in.
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:04 am
The worst thing about you specifically i've already noticed is massive generalization, conveniently ignoring words that make all the difference in a sentence, and pretending to know about things you really know nothing about in the slightest.
Evolutionism would technically be the correst term for Atheism, As much as christianity could be the correct term for Catholicism, and Protetestant, all Athiests are Evolutionists, but not all evolutionists are Athiests (not generalizing there, Evolutionism is the name for that whole belief system, Athiesm is a sub-group).
I said Christian in ACTION, not belief, in ACTION, as in how you act, which is true, if a Satanist (not necessarily someone who worships the devil, just thought I should clear that up before you go off on a Satanist too) even attempts to follow the ten commandments, then he/she is Christian in action, not Christian. In FACT, if Christianity worked the same way as Judaism, and could only be entered by being born into it, and being near-impossible to leave, everyone on the planet could 100% correctly be referred to as Christian.
You know why no one else will ever go door to door trying to convince people to follow their religion? They don't care about you, you're not one of them, and will go to whatever their idea of Hell is, end of story. You'd probably think differently if you actually looked at our point of view for one single second, and realized that we're trying to help you, again, proof of my point on the different meanings of "good".
I, in my lifetime, have never tried to convert anyone who didn't come to me asking if they could learn more about it, and possibly join in the first place, as the vast majority of people have, the off person giving you a pamphlet isn't and I quote "ALL christians". Again, being as unobservant as you obviously are, you will point to this right now, you'll notice that never, have I ever stated Christianity is true, other religions are wrong, or done anything else but argue your horribly flawed points. Christianity could be as wrong as anything else, or just as easily correct, I personally believe in it, and will continue to argue it to those who pretend to know the slightest thing about it or any other religion, but don't.
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:56 am
Evolutionism refers to doctrines of evolution, specifically to a widely held 19th century belief that organisms are intrinsically bound to improve themselves, and that changes are progressive and arise through inheritance of acquired characters, as in Lamarckism. The belief was extended to include cultural evolution and social evolution. The term is sometimes also used to refer to acceptance of the modern evolutionary synthesis, a scientific theory that describes how biological evolution happened. In addition, the term is used in a broader sense as a world-view covering a wide variety of topics, including chemical evolution as an alternative term for abiogenesis or for nucleosynthesis of chemical elements, galaxy formation and evolution, stellar evolution, spiritual evolution, technological evolution and universal evolution, which seeks to explain every aspect of the world in which we live. {source}and yes, wikepedia, I will find a better one later, but it works for now. Edit: Elektro7 Let's review the list of pissed of people shall we? 1. Gays, 2. People who hate religion in all forms, yet know nothing about any of it 3. Politicians Explain that to me, specifically the 2nd one or are you talking about something like this?  and yes, I'm aware it can be flaming, but I'm asking a question
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:00 pm
Elektro7 The worst thing about you specifically i've already noticed is massive generalization, conveniently ignoring words that make all the difference in a sentence, and pretending to know about things you really know nothing about in the slightest. Hun, I know plenty about the christian religion. I have not generalized anyone (except in the places where I mentioned that i was generalizing them - such as coming on my doorsteps and s**t like that because it is christians as a whole that try to convert me). A few individuals may not be that way, but its guilt by association. Like saying the people of America voted for Obama. Yes, the people of America voted for Obama (for arguments sake, it was really the electoral college that did it and the peoples vote doesnt matter a damn bit but still), HOWEVER not all americans voted for the dumb a**. Take it and apply it to your religion. Elektro7 Evolutionism would technically be the correst term for Atheism, As much as christianity could be the correct term for Catholicism, and Protetestant, all Athiests are Evolutionists, but not all evolutionists are Athiests (not generalizing there, Evolutionism is the name for that whole belief system, Athiesm is a sub-group). And you're still saying that ALL Athiests believe in evolution which is not true. There are some who believe that the big bang theory happened, and I have met a few who believe that we have been here all along, just we've adapted from stupid animals to intelligent animals, but no species change in there. So, really, YOU'RE the one generalizing. Elektro7 I said Christian in ACTION, not belief, in ACTION, as in how you act, which is true, if a Satanist (not necessarily someone who worships the devil, just thought I should clear that up before you go off on a Satanist too) even attempts to follow the ten commandments, then he/she is Christian in action, not Christian. In FACT, if Christianity worked the same way as Judaism, and could only be entered by being born into it, and being near-impossible to leave, everyone on the planet could 100% correctly be referred to as Christian. Satanism is SELF-WORSHIP... there is never any satan worship (except in retarded teens who don't know jack about it and run around yelling hail satan) We don't follow them because they're ten commandments. we follow them because its common sense and common decency. Again, religion has nothing to do with it. At that, I will state once again. Religion is not an action. It is a belief system that the individuals of that belief act in. Call me a ******** Christian "in Action" to my face and I'd punch you =/ You do not go off saying someone is part of a religion in any way if they have clearly told you they are not in any way affiliated with that. Religion is belief, not action. And no. If christianity worked that way, there would be no christianity considering your religion's savior was a jew. the person who started your religion was a jew. You would all be jewish. Elektro7 You know why no one else will ever go door to door trying to convince people to follow their religion? They don't care about you, you're not one of them, and will go to whatever their idea of Hell is, end of story. You'd probably think differently if you actually looked at our point of view for one single second, and realized that we're trying to help you, again, proof of my point on the different meanings of "good". If christians "cared about me" then they'd leave me the ******** alone and let me do as I wish. Those other people keeping their beliefs to themselves is WHY we like them. And that's WHY we respect them. Because they know how to respect someone's beliefs and choose to let people believe in what they will. You seem to think that I have never been in the Christian worship. I have clearly stated that I was raised by hard-core christian parents. I went to church for 18 years. I have been in that position. I have happened to meet very few Christians who did not force their opinions on people. And they really really hate it when they get called bad people because of what the whack-jobs are out doing. It gives all christians a bad name, and that's the christians' fault, not the non-christians. How about worrying about yourself? God says judge not lest thou be judged. It is not your job to save my soul. Because in order to try and save my soul, you have to determine if it is in any danger at all in which case you would be judging me. Which is bad on your part. Christians need to keep to themselves. Then people would respect them more. Elektro7 I, in my lifetime, have never tried to convert anyone who didn't come to me asking if they could learn more about it, and possibly join in the first place, as the vast majority of people have, the off person giving you a pamphlet isn't and I quote "ALL christians". Again, being as unobservant as you obviously are, you will point to this right now, you'll notice that never, have I ever stated Christianity is true, other religions are wrong, or done anything else but argue your horribly flawed points. Christianity could be as wrong as anything else, or just as easily correct, I personally believe in it, and will continue to argue it to those who pretend to know the slightest thing about it or any other religion, but don't. I never said that all christians are trying to convert me. I said Christians are the only religion that tries to convert people. I never said you said it was the one true path. I was merely coming back on where you were saying that evolution can be "proven" in other ways, I was merely stating that just because it could, doesn't mean it does. I would like to know what gives you the right to say I know nothing about religion. I know everything that I have said, and I have said nothing that is false or misconstrued in anyway. You, being the typical christian I see, like to take my words and twist them around. I have not generalized the people of the religion. I have generalized the religion. I have admitted that there are a few moral christians who know how to respect other people's rights. But, christianity as a whole today, cannot tolerate anyone not following your ways. Here's a hint:: Want to stop being generalized? Then leave people and let them believe in what they want, and do what they want with their body... and stay the ******** out of our government.
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:26 pm
I give up, it's talking to a damn brick wall, except this one can talk, and endlessly contradicts itself and it's arguments.
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:46 pm
Elektro7 I give up, it's talking to a damn brick wall, except this one can talk, and endlessly contradicts itself and it's arguments. Please, point out where I contradict myself? Don't get all pissy with me because your reading comprehension skills are below that of a ten year old. You misquote your bible passages, twist the words around, then get pissed at me because you can't understand. Here's an idea. Stop reading between the lines and trying to find some hidden interpretation. Sometimes the most obvious meaning is exactly what's in front of you. If you did this, you'd actually understand your bible.
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:08 pm
~Ichigo_Pie~ I don't care if you want to argue against me XD I am secure enough in my beliefs and accept other beliefs enough to be able to hold a CIVIL and MATURE conversation about anyone's beliefs. =) I don't get mad when people's views are different from my own... and I don't b***h about their eternal life and all that crap if I don't like it =3 these are currently the only states in USA that allow Gay Marriage/Gay RIGHTS (they don't even have legal joint rights) * Connecticut * District of Columbia * New Hampshire * New Jersey * New York * Maine * Massachusetts * Vermont you my be referring to the recent ordeal with Cali who (regrettably) declined gay rights.
It's sad really, it wasn't just that we declined it... It was made legal for a short time before it was again made illegal >.<
Next time it comes around though, I bet the gays will win. It was very close this time!
So yeah... I'm from Cali if someone didn't catch that lol
Last Halloween ( a year ago, not the one just passed), my friend and I dressed up as gangsters and went up to this one chicks house that had a pro prop 8 sign (meaning against gay marriage) arm in arm. We kinda hoped for a reaction, sucks she didn't seem to get the joke xP
Well... the gangster part had nothing to do with it, unless you somehow count girls dressed up like guys as having to do with gays... >>
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:15 pm
Omg A Name ~Ichigo_Pie~ I don't care if you want to argue against me XD I am secure enough in my beliefs and accept other beliefs enough to be able to hold a CIVIL and MATURE conversation about anyone's beliefs. =) I don't get mad when people's views are different from my own... and I don't b***h about their eternal life and all that crap if I don't like it =3 these are currently the only states in USA that allow Gay Marriage/Gay RIGHTS (they don't even have legal joint rights) * Connecticut * District of Columbia * New Hampshire * New Jersey * New York * Maine * Massachusetts * Vermont you my be referring to the recent ordeal with Cali who (regrettably) declined gay rights.
It's sad really, it wasn't just that we declined it... It was made legal for a short time before it was again made illegal >.<
Next time it comes around though, I bet the gays will win. It was very close this time!
So yeah... I'm from Cali if someone didn't catch that lol
Last Halloween ( a year ago, not the one just passed), my friend and I dressed up as gangsters and went up to this one chicks house that had a pro prop 8 sign (meaning against gay marriage) arm in arm. We kinda hoped for a reaction, sucks she didn't seem to get the joke xP
Well... the gangster part had nothing to do with it, unless you somehow count girls dressed up like guys as having to do with gays... >>
it falls under transvestite, ne? crossdressing? I don't see why they're so against it. Its so terrible, the issues arising out of it. Me and my friend did something like that, only it wasn't on halloween nor at one specific person's house. We just walked around the mall holding hands and calling each other hun. I call everyone hun, darling, sweetie... it is just a term I use for closeness (hint - I'm from the south, its REALLY common here for women to address everyone as hun darling, sug(ar) etc). And holding hands, oooo that's SO TERRIBLE... we got a lot of different looks, ranging from smiles, mixed feelings (like be what you want but don't make me watch), disgust, anger, disapproval. Some lady even picked up her kid and walked to the other side of the mall when the child pointed us out. There was no way at all to reasonably assume we're lesbian together.
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:24 pm
Well it wasn't just her house lol, we were gangsters for halloween. I had my hair, which was long at the time, short now, up in a beanie, and we both had boxers on with our pants sagging xD
We specifically did the whole closeness, arm in arm, thing for her house though lol
Haha the mall thing, sounds like something I would do xD
Chelsea would do that with me! Or anyone lol. She holds hands with everyone ;D
People watching is fun, especially in places like a mall. That sounds like an interesting experiment actually. How people automatically assumed that and then what their reactions were.
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:30 pm
Omg A Name
Well it wasn't just her house lol, we were gangsters for halloween. I had my hair, which was long at the time, short now, up in a beanie, and we both had boxers on with our pants sagging xD
We specifically did the whole closeness, arm in arm, thing for her house though lol
Haha the mall thing, sounds like something I would do xD
Chelsea would do that with me! Or anyone lol. She holds hands with everyone ;D
People watching is fun, especially in places like a mall. That sounds like an interesting experiment actually. How people automatically assumed that and then what their reactions were.
it was fun and I'm thinking about doing something like this for my research "thesis" it's a 10-12 page paper over a research project that I have to do. Yay for Psychology majors and the crap they have to put up with to get their degree.
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:44 pm
I love psychology. I'm taking it in high school right now, and will probably at least minor in it in college. I'm not entirely sure what field I want to go into though career wise... considering the three things I want to do most are all very difficult to succeed in.
I want to be either an actress, an author... or more recently I've been thinking about a therapist- eventually a private practice therapist if so, but I know I would have to work up to that.
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:04 pm
Omg A Name
I love psychology. I'm taking it in high school right now, and will probably at least minor in it in college. I'm not entirely sure what field I want to go into though career wise... considering the three things I want to do most are all very difficult to succeed in.
I want to be either an actress, an author... or more recently I've been thinking about a therapist- eventually a private practice therapist if so, but I know I would have to work up to that.
I want to be a dancer for like concerts and music videos, but if that doesn't work out, I'm working on my BS in Psychology. I'm not sure yet whether I want to focus on child psychology and write/illistrate childrens books on the side, or if I want to go into criminal psychology
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:06 am
Not all Christians are against gay marriage! I'm not christian, but parts of my family are most of them are for gay marriage.
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