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A booth connected to Lolita Kisama sold items at Oni-con on Halloween this year. I was at Oni-con.

The items they sold were K-star, spider, and their own "personal" pieces, constructed with raschel lace, polyester and transparent thread [aka fishing line]. How this counts as "new and improved" construction and quality is beyond me.

They are a cheap punk brand that happens to have misleading tags on their items in order to hook newbie lolitas who don't know better.


I also was at PMX and saw AP's goods in person. I own pieces from BtSSB, AP, AatP, Meta, Innocent World, and numerous smaller independent brands and seamstresses. I also work for a lolita importer that not brings in goods from Chinese brands such as Secret Shop, HMHM, Rose Melody and Kids Yoyo, but produces its own products through specially contracted tailors. So yes. I know quality when I see it.

Of the retailers I have listed, Lolita Kisama can't even come close to comparing. Even GLP has higher quality than that pitiful excuse for a store. =/

There were three tags in the dresses. There were ugly lolita dresses, equally poor quality Japanese "punk" and gothic clothing. Lolita Kisama's was one of the labels in the pieces, and what I said above applies to those items.

I also think you must not be looking at their site, since I don't even see any passable lolita pieces on there aside from a headdress with different colored roses. In fact, their search finds these:

Buckle Punk Lolita Skirt - If those ruffles are cotton, I'll eat my shoes.

Classic Elegant Gothic Lolita Skirt - Made of Polyester, as listed on the site

Lolita Flower Skirt - Also listed as being made of polyester

I suggest you actually do your research, since you insist on defending them as being reliable and perfect.



As for living in Osaka, I'm afraid I highly doubt your story, since we've had dozens of girls who claimed likewise and were proven to be liars, trolls, or attention whores. You put your images up with links from German-language hosting sites, and you buy from Chinese brands. That last point in particular makes me raise an eyebrow, since, what with you being in the magical land of Japan, you certainly have far more and far better options.

In your "Items you have bought" post, the image you linked to was on a German-language site. I removed the link because it had a browser hijacker, and suggested you use another site. Did you forget that you'd done that? Or perhaps backpedaling is just your specialty.

In any case, in the tradition of all skeptics I must say: "I'll believe it when I see it."

Lolita Kisama has been reviled by the lolita community since it came into being. Just because you claim that they have better pieces that "aren't on their site" isn't going to convince me, just like your claims to have AP and live in Japan aren't going to convince me, when all you do is sing the praises of Lolita Kisama, and recommend Fanplusfriend as a favorite.

To be honest, though, I've pretty much signed you off as a troll out for laughs and giggles. So do carry on. Try and convince us that Lolita Kisama is fabulous, but provide no proof of it. (:

Congratulations your absolute ignorance and need to fight with Spuntino has issued you a warning. You're lucky I'm not banning you since if you had read the guild rules, obsessive fighting with a guild mod gets you instantly BANNED. Also for you to say that you lived in Osaka and then say that AP is a Chinese brand just shows how much a liar you are. AP is based in gasp, Japan! AP website is in gasp, Japanese! The creators and spokespeople of AP that go to all events are gasp, Japanese! Also for someone who has "lived" in Japan you know nothing of the weather there. I have seen American Lolitas who live in the most brutal winters in Michigan say that the coats are very warm because guess what it gets very cold in Japan being surrounded by water and all.

The last thing I shall say to you is that this is the internet and people will always have DIFFERENT OPINIONS. It is within human nature to disagree with others but it shows maturity to be able to accept said opinions without acting like a child. I feel sorry for you that you have acted so poorly over people agreeing that your "god like" Lolita Kisama is a piece of crap that no one buys from. Learn to accept criticism and learn to accept opinions because next time I will not be so kind and I will ban you without any remorse. This guild never has any problems with this sort of behavior because everyone is very cordial with one another and as mods we appreciate it when members are kind to one another, including to us.

Heh, not really a debate xD. Save yourself precious time and don't bother to go back to reading it, it's really hopefully now something put behind us

No worries, as a guild member you have the right to voice what you think since this is an atmosphere where you will be participating in. I agree that it was going really bad which is why I had written that hopefully it was behind us now so that everyone could continue posting in the thread in a friendly environment.

Where Lolita Kisama is concerned, I'm afraid there's no way to sugar coat them, or be nice about the poor quality of their garments. Saying that they're constructed with fishing line isn't a joke. And, the type of raschel lace that they use will melt if heated.

The elitist attitude that I assume you're talking about is the much fabled Elitism for brand, which... isn't really the case. ^^; Spuntino has nothing against off brand items, I assure you. None of us here do.
But we do have something to say about quality, especially when someone wants to charge lofty prices for something that isn't worth it. So there's nothing really "Elitist" about the fact that they are a complete waste of money. They sell $60 skirts constructed out of plastic thread and lace. Their garments will fall apart/melt/never accomodate a petticoat/never be lolita.
I wouldn't call it rude to point out that they're a bad company, and suggest that people avoid them.
Their quality has been proven, and denying facts is not an opinion. The definition of a delusion is something that is falsely believed or propagated. The definition of delusional is being out of touch with reality. I'm not trying to be rude by any means, but the reality is that they are a bad brand, and she was propagating false information. The only actually logical reasons to propagate false information about a label with a bad reputation is because you're a) an agent of that label or b) a troll.


That aside:
My favorite online shops are Moi meme Moitie, Mary Madgalene, Victorian Maiden. heart

I will sadly have to disagree with you on the aspect that Spuntino was talking in an elitist manner. Spuntino is actually pro-offbrand and buys a lot of handmade items from Cryrin. I think people often mistake people's words as "elitist" because they are not agreeing to an offbrand. As mods it's our commitment to help newer members from wasting what little money they have on poor quality items. We were all once new members with little money that made poor purchases and wish someone had said something to help. I can verify that Lolita Kisame is a poor company when my friend attempted to dry a skirt she bought the lace MELTED onto the skirt in the dryer -_-;.
If you go through other posts and in fact the main newcomer's thread you'll see a lot of Pro-Offbrand from all mods and especially from Spuntino. Usually the "mean" mod is me in this guild so I don't get why everyone seems to think she is being rude >..>. If you feel that the way we handle things is offputting to you and you wish to leave the guild, while sad to see things misunderstood it is your right to do so