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 Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:41 am
Arthas Hellscream othgan243 Arthas Hellscream Shimmer Matataku Dwarf shamans make much more sense than Tauren paladins. The Wildhammer dwarves were well known to practice shamanism. The only reason they weren't able to be shamans in vanilla and BC is because shamans were firstly only available to horde as compensation for paladins, and they had no new race/class mixes in BC. true dwarf shamans are better than tauren pallys my question is since the tuaren are followers of elements how are they going to be paladins when they dont follow light? and yes pallys were noly avalible for alliance becuase they were thhe only "good" guys and the shamans were replacements for not having paladins for horde now that there are dwarven shammys and tauren pallys thats just messed up the only thing i want changed is the exorsime cast time sure its ok but when u try to cast it the other people run behind you and kill you but i do like that we can use it on players though, when they make tauren pallys i'm going camp every one i can find on my ally druid >=D no one can stop me unless they get an 80 is only way to kill me cuz i can just cat form right out of there, and on my pally(one in my signature) i'll camp the dwarven shamans but i'm wondering how the TROLLS r becoming DRUIDS burning_eyes and i want to know what the forms are going to be for them but the worgen thing is pretty cool =] human(non-combat) to worgen(combat) but are they going to have weaspons or just there claws? it was stated that forest trolls could shapeshift. as for what there forms are, i have no idea. also, worgen will hold weapons in their true form. maybe there forms will be scorpion raptor and cat or something like that they showed the tree form in the trailer, and i think their cat form is going to be a tiger. flight form if the confusing part cause the darkspear tribe considers birds to be weak.
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:04 am
Bacchant I think every class/race combo can make sense bar the tauren paladin. Even if you read the above link the "lore" they say that makes it make sense was added in 3.2. Thats not exactly what I would call lore. The post suggests that Taurens will worship the sun in order to gain the powers of the light, where all proper lore suggests powers of the light are given by the naru. In case anyone has forgotten, the blood elves had to chain one up in their basement in order to become paladins. I guess no one told them they could just look to the sun. Tauren paladins make some sense due that the quest that was added and yes I know you mentioned that but it was just a realization quest for the masses. Tauren worship the moon, why not the sun? I do believe that some already did worship the sun but I may not be correct. And it makes perfect scene for the to do so. Any race can worship the Light.
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:56 pm
sootyv Bacchant I think every class/race combo can make sense bar the tauren paladin. Even if you read the above link the "lore" they say that makes it make sense was added in 3.2. Thats not exactly what I would call lore. The post suggests that Taurens will worship the sun in order to gain the powers of the light, where all proper lore suggests powers of the light are given by the naru. In case anyone has forgotten, the blood elves had to chain one up in their basement in order to become paladins. I guess no one told them they could just look to the sun. Tauren paladins make some sense due that the quest that was added and yes I know you mentioned that but it was just a realization quest for the masses. Tauren worship the moon, why not the sun? I do believe that some already did worship the sun but I may not be correct. And it makes perfect scene for the to do so. Any race can worship the Light. Realization for the masses? You mean Blizzard needed to do something about some unfounded lore they were about to unleash on the game? Thats not exactly what I call realization for the masses, that would imply that a select few already knew what was possible. -This- change is not possible without that new quest. Any race being able to worship the light would mean the blood elves would not have had to go to all of the trouble of imprisoning the naru in order to become Paladins. Also, sun/moon? That seems a bit retarded considering the night elves in the Temple of the Moon are priests who practice holy magic.
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:53 pm
You're not understanding some of the existing lore.
After the Third War, the majority of high elves became blood elves, and soon the race began to lose its light given powers because they had thought the Light abandoned their people. Thus they needed to find a new way to access the Light. They did this by sapping Light energy from the captive naaru M'uru held beneath the Blood Knight headquarters.
When they had stopped believing, they had forcefully stolen the Naaru's powers.
The Light is a religious form of philosophy. ANY race can follow it.
There is a Troll Paladin in the comic for example.
The sun and moon thing with the Taurens isn't new... The Tauren's believe in the Earth Mother... The sun (An'she) and moon (Mu'sha/Elune) are her eyes. This entire time, they have been ignoring the sun for the most part. Ignoring a path they could go, thinking that only following the moon was sufficient. The realization was that now they can follow the sun instead.
There was never more to Elune as she is just the moon and had given the Night Elves the abilities you see in the priests now. Elune did not grant the same abilities to the Tauren, because of An'she in the first place as it was mentioned they overlooked a key of balance as this was their beliefs and did not match the elves completely.
There is a lot of things that can open up in the religions and beliefs in WoW, it does not need to be confined and shouldn't be either.
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:17 am
itt nerds arguing about lore that can be changed at the whim of some fat white a*****e at any moment. (ex: draenei)
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:32 am
I still dislike the idea of Night Elf mages.
No matter what those people who are making logic explanations of Night Elf mages say, EVERY example of a night elf mage has been eventually corrupted. Yes Illidan was a night elf mage. He was also corrupted by the arcane. Hopnestly, I made a mage because of the whole "the arcane eventually corrupts" philosophy, and giving Night Elves mages is either stupid, or a result of the current high druid's corruption.
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:21 am
Kayariy I still dislike the idea of Night Elf mages. No matter what those people who are making logic explanations of Night Elf mages say, EVERY example of a night elf mage has been eventually corrupted. Yes Illidan was a night elf mage. He was also corrupted by the arcane. Hopnestly, I made a mage because of the whole "the arcane eventually corrupts" philosophy, and giving Night Elves mages is either stupid, or a result of the current high druid's corruption. yeah, it even says in the lore that blood elves were night elves that used arcane magic and were banned because of it,(and then they randomly turned pale along the way) so if you roll and night elf mage doesnt that make you a blood elf? lol
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:44 pm
Hvymtlrocks Kayariy I still dislike the idea of Night Elf mages. No matter what those people who are making logic explanations of Night Elf mages say, EVERY example of a night elf mage has been eventually corrupted. Yes Illidan was a night elf mage. He was also corrupted by the arcane. Hopnestly, I made a mage because of the whole "the arcane eventually corrupts" philosophy, and giving Night Elves mages is either stupid, or a result of the current high druid's corruption. yeah, it even says in the lore that blood elves were night elves that used arcane magic and were banned because of it,(and then they randomly turned pale along the way) so if you roll and night elf mage doesnt that make you a blood elf? lol /palm 
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:55 am
I just wanna know why Trolls still can't be warlocks.
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 4:41 pm
Acorna Moonmist I just wanna know why Trolls still can't be warlocks. They don't follow witchcraft? ;D And for the Worgen with weapons, I think it's going to be like the wolvars with weapons. Since they kinda look the same. To me at least.
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:09 pm
As worgen you'll be able to see your weapons and pieces of armor. Seach on youtube for Worgen Starting Area... there are some things filmed on BlizzCon with cellphones biggrin
As for dwarfs shamans...no idea biggrin
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:17 am
common the game looks great so far and how often did people spend in azeroth anyway other than the AH we are just hanging in NR doing dailys or farming in outlands i like the idea of revamping it it was all plain and i like seeing new things ya know...?
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:04 pm
StarFox778 common the game looks great so far and how often did people spend in azeroth anyway other than the AH we are just hanging in NR doing dailys or farming in outlands i like the idea of revamping it it was all plain and i like seeing new things ya know...? azeroth isn't new
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:50 pm
Just because things seem a bit off doesn't mean that Blizzard is throwing story to the wind. The timeline of Warcraft is ever-changing, and Cataclysm is simply a progress in the story. There's no real progress with WOTLK, it's just bringing to life WC3 and filling in a couple holes here and there while creating more for later on. The storyline is continuing. Things change in storylines and nothing is a constant. Cataclysm is supposed to get back to the heart of what Warcraft was originally about (orcs and humans, woah!) while adding more to the story arcs of the dragons and the actual history of the place itself that the books took a crap all over.
Also, just because the game labels something as 'mage' or 'priest' does not necessarily mean that all mages or priests do what they do for all of the same reasons. Troll priests are essentially witch doctors. They are medicine men, not the same followers of the Light that Human priests are. The Night Elf priests belong to an order that worship Elune, and they do heal and care for the sick and orphaned, but that does not mean they worship the Light. They worship Elune. 'Priest' in one culture can mean something else in another, just like any other title. The slight differences are rolled into the single class of 'Priest' for simplicity purposes. Apply it to any other class as you wish. Open your minds a little and give it some thought.
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:44 pm
Much like the Tauren Paladins...
Troll Druids too, I think.. :/
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