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After the new movie, did you start feeling a little more for Raoul?
HECK NO!
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 60%  [ 30 ]
Just a little, maybe, now that you mention it . . .
26%
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I really did.
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Total Votes : 50


VerandiDarkstar

PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 8:52 am


I have never hated Raoul. I disliked him in the book becuase he seemed whiny and self-centered. However, in other versions, writers and directors have made him a little more "heroic" than his first incarnation. After seeing the ALW musical, I felt kind of bad for him because both he and Erik were victims of Christine's manipulation(well, the musical anyway, in the movie she is more kindly depicted by Emily Rossum). So, I didn't like him anymore, but I didn't like him any less.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 9:14 am


I doubt that I could ever, under any circumstance, even BEGIN to feel for Raoul. I despise the man (read: #%$^*&^&$$@pansy-@$$fop!!!!!!!).

Zicoxite


scrutinize

PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:14 am


I've never really hated Raoul...my opinion's alway been something along the lines of "eh..."

I like Erik roughly a thousand times more, of course (...but if I had been Christine I would have gone with the Perisan...>_>), though I never really thought Raoul did anything wrong.

Still, it is fun to make fun of him. X3
PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:09 am


I think that some people have a dislike of Raoul becaus ehe disrupts Erik's happiness. However, it is important to keep in mind that until Apollo's Lyre, he had no idea Erik even existed. ONLY CHRISTINE went back and forth between her suitors. Raoul only had eyes for Christine and was unaware of his competition. So....Hate Christine, not the innocent fop she dragged into this.

VerandiDarkstar


Angel_of_Music1331

PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:25 am


Moocat
If anything, I hate him even more after seeing the movie. xp
I totally agree he is nothing more than a pathetic love sick fop
PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:54 am


I liked him more in the movie than in the book, but I still think that he's a fop. I think that part of it might be his competition. The phantom isn't really as cool as he is in the book. And the sword fight didn't exactly help.

Izumi Shikibu


Unromantic_Phantom
Crew

PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 2:10 pm


I didn't like the sword fight. I mean, Erik was pretty much dominating the entire fight, and then suddenly something happens and he loses his sword. Then Raoul's about to kill him and Christine stops him. That's just throwing salt in the wound at that point.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 5:35 pm


Unromantic_Phantom
I didn't like the sword fight. I mean, Erik was pretty much dominating the entire fight, and then suddenly something happens and he loses his sword. Then Raoul's about to kill him and Christine stops him. That's just throwing salt in the wound at that point.
And what really doesn't make sence is that in the musical in the macarade scene he dissapears and reappears but in the sword fight he can't I mean whats up with that? and I mean we all know Erik is like 10x smarter than the fop so it made no sence

Angel_of_Music1331


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 9:00 pm


Angel_of_Music1331
Unromantic_Phantom
I didn't like the sword fight. I mean, Erik was pretty much dominating the entire fight, and then suddenly something happens and he loses his sword. Then Raoul's about to kill him and Christine stops him. That's just throwing salt in the wound at that point.
And what really doesn't make sence is that in the musical in the macarade scene he dissapears and reappears but in the sword fight he can't I mean whats up with that? and I mean we all know Erik is like 10x smarter than the fop so it made no sence

Probably because the graveyard is not his domain as the opera house is....
hard to disappear when there are no trap doors
PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:27 pm


dane20010
Angel_of_Music1331
Unromantic_Phantom
I didn't like the sword fight. I mean, Erik was pretty much dominating the entire fight, and then suddenly something happens and he loses his sword. Then Raoul's about to kill him and Christine stops him. That's just throwing salt in the wound at that point.
And what really doesn't make sence is that in the musical in the macarade scene he dissapears and reappears but in the sword fight he can't I mean whats up with that? and I mean we all know Erik is like 10x smarter than the fop so it made no sence

Probably because the graveyard is not his domain as the opera house is....
hard to disappear when there are no trap doors

I was actually a bit disappointed with how they ended the masquerade scene. Raoul jumped in through the trapdoor, and all of a sudden he's in this mirrored room. I'm sitting there and I'm thinking: OMFG! eek He's in the torture chamber! They put in the torture chamber!

I was sitting there and kind of hoping that the torture would begin when all of a sudden Madame Giry shows up and takes the fop out of there.

Unromantic_Phantom
Crew


Combeferre

PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:57 pm


Yeah, that was my initial reaction, too. "AWESOME! IT'S THE TORTURE CHAMBER! YAY!"

And then Mme. Giry had to show up. ;-;
PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:00 pm


It was put in there just to raise the hopes of those who have read the book!

Unromantic_Phantom
Crew


Combeferre

PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:07 pm


Yes, it's all an eeeeevil, eeeeevil plot by Andrew Lloyd Webber and Joel Schumacher. They're plotting against Leroux-phans! It's all a conspiracy! Well, THEY WON'T GET ME!

*runs far away*
PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:13 pm


Combeferre
Yes, it's all an eeeeevil, eeeeevil plot by Andrew Lloyd Webber and Joel Schumacher. They're plotting against Leroux-phans! It's all a conspiracy! Well, THEY WON'T GET ME!

*runs far away*


confused Okay...I guess I should stop coming up with conspiracy theories then.

They also could have gotten away with making Butler's entire face deformed since it was a movie. If it gave him trouble singing they could have just come back later and have him dub that whole part over. That's the nice thing about movies. They can do things like that!

Unromantic_Phantom
Crew


X S . SeX

PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 3:26 pm


Combeferre
look at the phiction there, the front page is ALL E/C and E/OW (this pairing sickens me, but whatever).


Who is OW? confused
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