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CH0Z0
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:14 pm


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Unnatural, unhealthy. Humans are omnivores.
It's not unnatural and doesn't have to be unhealthy. If you think about it cooking your meat is unnatural.

It requires 10forth effort to equal the nutrition of eating both, but the human body was designed for both in mind anyway. You don't have to cook meat to eat it, it just makes it safer.
@Shiori: we're not, cats and dogs and other animals have been known to do it plenty. We're just not into the whole drinking from our own species thing, as we deem that weird.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:16 pm


CH0Z0
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Unnatural, unhealthy. Humans are omnivores.
It's not unnatural and doesn't have to be unhealthy. If you think about it cooking your meat is unnatural.

It requires 10forth effort to equal the nutrition of eating both, but the human body was designed for both in mind anyway. You don't have to cook meat to eat it, it just makes it safer.
Eating raw meat is very dangerous and unhealthy, especially as we start expanding on what we eat.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:17 pm


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Unnatural, unhealthy. Humans are omnivores.
It's not unnatural and doesn't have to be unhealthy. If you think about it cooking your meat is unnatural.

It requires 10forth effort to equal the nutrition of eating both, but the human body was designed for both in mind anyway. You don't have to cook meat to eat it, it just makes it safer.
Eating raw meat is very dangerous and unhealthy, especially as we start expanding on what we eat.

It is unhealthy because it is dangerous, but I already said that. The point of cooking is to make it safer, not make it edible.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:22 pm


CH0Z0
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Unnatural, unhealthy. Humans are omnivores.
It's not unnatural and doesn't have to be unhealthy. If you think about it cooking your meat is unnatural.

It requires 10forth effort to equal the nutrition of eating both, but the human body was designed for both in mind anyway. You don't have to cook meat to eat it, it just makes it safer.
Eating raw meat is very dangerous and unhealthy, especially as we start expanding on what we eat.

It is unhealthy because it is dangerous, but I already said that. The point of cooking is to make it safer, not make it edible.
IDK I don't consider things unsafe edible. For example, we can eat plastic but it's unsafe and is consider inedible. I consider raw meat to be the same.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:29 pm


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Unnatural, unhealthy. Humans are omnivores.
It's not unnatural and doesn't have to be unhealthy. If you think about it cooking your meat is unnatural.

It requires 10forth effort to equal the nutrition of eating both, but the human body was designed for both in mind anyway. You don't have to cook meat to eat it, it just makes it safer.
Eating raw meat is very dangerous and unhealthy, especially as we start expanding on what we eat.

It is unhealthy because it is dangerous, but I already said that. The point of cooking is to make it safer, not make it edible.
IDK I don't consider things unsafe edible. For example, we can eat plastic but it's unsafe and is consider inedible. I consider raw meat to be the same.

Plastic is made out of oil, hardly what we were designed to eat.
But since this is being so fought out, just getting the necessary foods to be a healthy vegetarian is unnatural, you have to get specially reinforced foods so you don't die from improper eating, and a huge array of fruits and vegetables that couldn't possibly all grow where you live to cover your vitamins and such. Talk about unnatural; so I heard you need mangos that only grow in madagascar? Oh let's just do some international shipping so you can survive in a healthy state and you'll be fine.
She asked what my thoughts were and I said them in a simple way.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:33 pm


Vegetarians need to be careful. It isn't a bad thing, but you need to be careful to keep enough protein in your diet. Personally, I'm not one. I like the taste of a good hamburger too much. >.>

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Shiori Miko

PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:37 pm


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nsider inedible. I consider raw meat to be the same.
Plastic is made out of oil, hardly what we were designed to eat.
But since this is being so fought out, just getting the necessary foods to be a healthy vegetarian is unnatural, you have to get specially reinforced foods so you don't die from improper eating, and a huge array of fruits and vegetables that couldn't possibly all grow where you live to cover your vitamins and such. Talk about unnatural; so I heard you need mangos that only grow in madagascar? Oh let's just do some international shipping so you can survive in a healthy state and you'll be fine.
She asked what my thoughts were and I said them in a simple way.

That's not a vegetarian exclusive thing though. For example, I live in New England, bananas don't grow here but they will be shipped here so people can eat them. And not eating meat just cut out protein really, but I still eat eggs which have protein.

Nespin: My sister actually tries to steal my veggie burgers from time to time. They don't taste the same, but they're still yummy.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:39 pm


Shiori Miko
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nsider inedible. I consider raw meat to be the same.
Plastic is made out of oil, hardly what we were designed to eat.
But since this is being so fought out, just getting the necessary foods to be a healthy vegetarian is unnatural, you have to get specially reinforced foods so you don't die from improper eating, and a huge array of fruits and vegetables that couldn't possibly all grow where you live to cover your vitamins and such. Talk about unnatural; so I heard you need mangos that only grow in madagascar? Oh let's just do some international shipping so you can survive in a healthy state and you'll be fine.
She asked what my thoughts were and I said them in a simple way.

That's not a vegetarian exclusive thing though. For example, I live in New England, bananas don't grow here but they will be shipped here so people can eat them.

Nespin: My sister actually tries to steal my veggie burgers from time to time. They don't taste the same, but they're still yummy.

But it is REQUIRED for a vegetarian to survive, if it was required for non vegetarians to survive, then our species wouldn't have lived long enough to develop trade. I could survive off of what's in my area, and so can many other people, vegetarians cannot do so as much.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:40 pm


Shiori Miko
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nsider inedible. I consider raw meat to be the same.
Plastic is made out of oil, hardly what we were designed to eat.
But since this is being so fought out, just getting the necessary foods to be a healthy vegetarian is unnatural, you have to get specially reinforced foods so you don't die from improper eating, and a huge array of fruits and vegetables that couldn't possibly all grow where you live to cover your vitamins and such. Talk about unnatural; so I heard you need mangos that only grow in madagascar? Oh let's just do some international shipping so you can survive in a healthy state and you'll be fine.
She asked what my thoughts were and I said them in a simple way.

That's not a vegetarian exclusive thing though. For example, I live in New England, bananas don't grow here but they will be shipped here so people can eat them. And not eating meat just cut out protein really, but I still eat eggs which have protein.

Nespin: My sister actually tries to steal my veggie burgers from time to time. They don't taste the same, but they're still yummy.


That is a matter of opinion. Maybe you have a better brand, but I can't stand the things.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:40 pm


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It requires 10forth effort to equal the nutrition of eating both, but the human body was designed for both in mind anyway. You don't have to cook meat to eat it, it just makes it safer.
Eating raw meat is very dangerous and unhealthy, especially as we start expanding on what we eat.

It is unhealthy because it is dangerous, but I already said that. The point of cooking is to make it safer, not make it edible.
IDK I don't consider things unsafe edible. For example, we can eat plastic but it's unsafe and is consider inedible. I consider raw meat to be the same.

Plastic is made out of oil, hardly what we were designed to eat.
But since this is being so fought out, just getting the necessary foods to be a healthy vegetarian is unnatural, you have to get specially reinforced foods so you don't die from improper eating, and a huge array of fruits and vegetables that couldn't possibly all grow where you live to cover your vitamins and such. Talk about unnatural; so I heard you need mangos that only grow in madagascar? Oh let's just do some international shipping so you can survive in a healthy state and you'll be fine.
She asked what my thoughts were and I said them in a simple way.

But some people still eat it. We weren't designed to eat foods pumped full of chemicals but you'll be pretty hard pressed to find anything not containing an unnatural chemical or preservative.

So, if a food doesn't grow in your area it's unnatural for you to eat it? Are you saying that people who live in barren wastelands like Alaska shouldn't eat any fruits or veggies because they don't grow there? It would be unhealthy for them to only eat caribou. Fruits and veggies are still important.

@Nespin: The brand does make a HUGE difference. I've had some pretty good veggie burgers and some pretty bad ones.

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Shiori Miko

PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:43 pm


CH0Z0

But it is REQUIRED for a vegetarian to survive, if it was required for non vegetarians to survive, then our species wouldn't have lived long enough to develop trade. I could survive off of what's in my area, and so can many other people, vegetarians cannot do so as much.

Not exactly. The really determined could grow all their food themselves. Same could be said for non vegs, they can grow and hunt their own food.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:44 pm


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It requires 10forth effort to equal the nutrition of eating both, but the human body was designed for both in mind anyway. You don't have to cook meat to eat it, it just makes it safer.
Eating raw meat is very dangerous and unhealthy, especially as we start expanding on what we eat.

It is unhealthy because it is dangerous, but I already said that. The point of cooking is to make it safer, not make it edible.
IDK I don't consider things unsafe edible. For example, we can eat plastic but it's unsafe and is consider inedible. I consider raw meat to be the same.

Plastic is made out of oil, hardly what we were designed to eat.
But since this is being so fought out, just getting the necessary foods to be a healthy vegetarian is unnatural, you have to get specially reinforced foods so you don't die from improper eating, and a huge array of fruits and vegetables that couldn't possibly all grow where you live to cover your vitamins and such. Talk about unnatural; so I heard you need mangos that only grow in madagascar? Oh let's just do some international shipping so you can survive in a healthy state and you'll be fine.
She asked what my thoughts were and I said them in a simple way.

But some people still eat it. We weren't designed to eat foods pumped full of chemicals but you'll be pretty hard pressed to find anything not containing an unnatural chemical or preservative.

So, if a food doesn't grow in your area it's unnatural for you to eat it? Are you saying that people who live in barren wastelands like Alaska shouldn't eat any fruits or veggies because they don't grow there? It would be unhealthy for them to only eat caribou. Fruits and veggies are still important.

@Nespin: The brand does make a HUGE difference. I've had some pretty good veggie burgers and some pretty bad ones.

That's like cooking the meat though, they have the purpose of making it safer.

And yes that's exactly what I'm saying, if it is virtually impossible to get a food, yet you get it, that's unnatural, extremely so. And yet we have Alaskans who survived before trade was implemented! Oh my!
@Shiori: but you could not grow the heavily fortified, huge variety of food needed, is what I said, because everything they need doesn't grow in one place.

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Shiori Miko

PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:48 pm


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@Shiori: but you could not grow the heavily fortified, huge variety of food needed, is what I said, because everything they need doesn't grow in one place.

Then how did any human being survive before trade?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:48 pm


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It is unhealthy because it is dangerous, but I already said that. The point of cooking is to make it safer, not make it edible.
IDK I don't consider things unsafe edible. For example, we can eat plastic but it's unsafe and is consider inedible. I consider raw meat to be the same.

Plastic is made out of oil, hardly what we were designed to eat.
But since this is being so fought out, just getting the necessary foods to be a healthy vegetarian is unnatural, you have to get specially reinforced foods so you don't die from improper eating, and a huge array of fruits and vegetables that couldn't possibly all grow where you live to cover your vitamins and such. Talk about unnatural; so I heard you need mangos that only grow in madagascar? Oh let's just do some international shipping so you can survive in a healthy state and you'll be fine.
She asked what my thoughts were and I said them in a simple way.

But some people still eat it. We weren't designed to eat foods pumped full of chemicals but you'll be pretty hard pressed to find anything not containing an unnatural chemical or preservative.

So, if a food doesn't grow in your area it's unnatural for you to eat it? Are you saying that people who live in barren wastelands like Alaska shouldn't eat any fruits or veggies because they don't grow there? It would be unhealthy for them to only eat caribou. Fruits and veggies are still important.

@Nespin: The brand does make a HUGE difference. I've had some pretty good veggie burgers and some pretty bad ones.

That's like cooking the meat though, they have the purpose of making it safer.

And yes that's exactly what I'm saying, if it is virtually impossible to get a food, yet you get it, that's unnatural, extremely so. And yet we have Alaskans who survived before trade was implemented! Oh my!
@Shiori: but you could not grow the heavily fortified, huge variety of food needed, is what I said, because everything they need doesn't grow in one place.

Cho, be realistic, they didn't survive well and there were not a lot of them because of the scarcity. There are places in Alaska (hell even Hawaii) that are almost completely inhabitable before trade.

Yes, because when you eat that milk that has been injected with hormones so the cow can produce more that's just to make it safer.

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CH0Z0
Crew

PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:52 pm


Shiori Miko
CH0Z0

@Shiori: but you could not grow the heavily fortified, huge variety of food needed, is what I said, because everything they need doesn't grow in one place.

Then how did any human being survive before trade?

By not limiting their food source and eating what they had instead of 1/3 what they had.
@Vaja: that's called natural selection, they didn't live in a place with enough food intake sources to live, and that's exactly what vegetarians do, limit their food intakes; if left naturally, they'd be dead as well. And actually yes, it kills certain bacterials as well as providing more for people to eat.
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