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 Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:57 am
I am semi-against it (not for animal cruelty reasons because it not all that cruel) but my teacher told me that if I don't dissect I will fail.... and the worst part is we have to dissect rats and I have a pet rat and its just hard to do it...lol. But yeah thats coming up next year.
But I am going to be a veterinarian so I am debating on whether I should do it or not... I think I should but then all the "kids" around me will tease me about it... and last time we dissected something everyone threw "frog stuff" on me... and if they wouldn't do that I would totally dissect... because I will actually learn stuff from it.
^Does it make sense?^
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:41 pm
I HAD to disect a sows heart this year. I had a problem with it because I go freekish when I see stuff like that and the smell was rancid(the teacher keft it out of the fridge for 2 hours) when we, the group I was in, opend the packet blood fell everywhere and came to me. I jumped up and ran out, it was horrible but when I came back I had to cut it..so when I did I found it was quite interesting to explor and discover it for myself. but still I hate it.
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 4:25 am
I've never been able to disect anything in my life so far, and I'm an 18 year old college student. So for those of you who at least experience disection, I consider you lucky because at least you had a chance to know if you'll like it or not. For me, an aspiring veterinary technician/veterinarian, I wish I had the chance for disection. We were going to open up a fetal pig in Biology class at my first high school, but we moved before I had the chance. She did show us a roadkill cat she kept frozen though -- that was pretty cool. Not to mention she had a pet tarantula in her classroom. ^^ Ah, I miss that biology teacher.
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:00 am
The only things I've ever dissected were a starfish, a squid, a clam, and an oyster. Though, dissecting the clam was a bit...unnerving, as it was still alive and kickin'--literally. See, clams have these fleshy organs that they use to dig themselves into the sand called "feet". Mine kept prodding my scalpel with his feet o.O. I didn't like that too much. However, overall, I'm not against dissection in schools, or at least not in college. I just found out that I'm gonna be able to go to college after all because my pell grant came through ^.^ I was so afraid I wasn't going to be able to go. Anyway, as I was saying. I'm planning on entering the vet tech program, so dissection is necessary. See, if cutting up a dead animal can help me heal a live one, so IT doesnt wind up on the dissection table, then cutting up the pre-deadified one is worth it.
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:59 pm
Ravennwings The only things I've ever dissected were a starfish, a squid, a clam, and an oyster. Though, dissecting the clam was a bit...unnerving, as it was still alive and kickin'--literally. See, clams have these fleshy organs that they use to dig themselves into the sand called "feet". Mine kept prodding my scalpel with his feet o.O. I didn't like that too much. However, overall, I'm not against dissection in schools, or at least not in college. I just found out that I'm gonna be able to go to college after all because my pell grant came through ^.^ I was so afraid I wasn't going to be able to go. Anyway, as I was saying. I'm planning on entering the vet tech program, so dissection is necessary. See, if cutting up a dead animal can help me heal a live one, so IT doesnt wind up on the dissection table, then cutting up the pre-deadified one is worth it. good point of veiw wink
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 4:30 pm
Only frogs that have died of natural causes and are handled by those who can apreciate them.
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:47 am
I find alot of times people forget that life and death are a part of nature. While life is precious and should be valued, death is also precious and should be valued. The fly dies to the frog, the frog dies to the snake, and the snake dies to the eagle. So as for the acctual death of animals for disection in schools. I find nothing wrong with it and acctually encourage it, under the certian conditions. The animal is not endanger of extinction and the animals either are dead on disection or are not mistreated if going under the knife alive. While there are horror stories of kids doing terrible things during these classes, think of the hundreds of thousands of sparks that have been lit in peoples hearts to go into fields to study animals and go on to save many animals lives. For those reasons I am for it.
-MTTP ninja
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:54 pm
Maranda_Rossi I am... I know that we learn about the animals inside structures, but I don't think that it is right to kill a living animal just for that purpose... More schools should start using computer program versions... Last year, I have to do 4 disections, they made me feel terible... When we did frog disection, I passed out... I feel terible that the animals were killed just so I could learn about them... wouldn't you? u know those animals died of natural causes
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:18 pm
I disagree with dissections in high school and below, because most students at that level don't show the animals the respect they deserve. I'll be graduating from college with a degree in Biology in a couple of weeks. I've done more dissections than I can count. If you treat the animals with the necessary respect and recognize all that there is to learn from them...then dissection is acceptable. Necropsies (basically an autopsy on an animal) is a much better means of learning about an animal, as it died from another cause. However, the dissection of a healthy animal helps those of us who are truly into saving them, by giving us a better understanding of what is normal and should be happening.
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:22 pm
Ravennwings However, overall, I'm not against dissection in schools, or at least not in college. I just found out that I'm gonna be able to go to college after all because my pell grant came through ^.^ I was so afraid I wasn't going to be able to go. If you're having problems with college money, try www.teri.org they allow you to search through a bunch of school loans provided by different banks. It's pretty cool. I have a couple through them, because I'm paying for school all on my own.
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 5:10 pm
Some people donate their dead pets for science and research.
We have to disect fetal pigs this year or next. sad
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:41 pm
Bleh, I completely didn't dedicate much to the discussion last time I posted.
Disection is fine; there is nothing wrong with cutting an animal open, so I do not understand why there is such a fuss. The only thing wrong with the whole idea was when they used to gather this animals through inhumane ways (i.e. causing a pregnant sow to abort her piglets) and when teachers don't allow some students to do a different assignment to compensate for disection (i.e. computer programs of disection or research papers). Some teachers believe disection amongst younger students will promote better understanding of the biology found inside us all, but as it has been argued thus far, there should be no disection below high school levels -- even though in my opinion there's nothing truthfully wrong with it.
I may not aspire to be a veterinarian anymore, but I am looking forward to the disections I will do in Human Anatomy & Physiology next semester. It's a superb learning method that some would find a lot better to understand than pictures in a medical text.
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:35 am
Ailinea I don't mind dissecting. In fact, I find it a little fun. And don't automatically think that makes me evil. I'm majoring in zoology or a related field. So I HAVE to dissect animals. Why do I enjoy it? Because I learn things. I learn more about animals, evolution, and life. If it weren't for dissection our veternarians wouldn't be up to par. Our ecology would be worse. Our zoos wouldn't be near as beneficial as they are today. You wouldn't want your doctor operating on you. All of these need to have that essential part of schooling in them if they want to do their job to the fullest. Yeah, it's sad that animals die for this cause. But if it weren't for the animals, our animals would be in bad shape. They don't torture the animals before they pickle them. This semester we've already dissected a shark, a perch, and a frog, and next week we'll be dissecting a pigeon and later on a rat. The only problem I have with dissection is when they do it in high schools or lower. Most kids in school could give a rats a** about what they're dissecting, and mutilate the body and learn nothing. I think dissection should be saved for students who are interested in a zoological or medical field. Which is why if I don't make it into wildlife management, I plan on going into education. Recent decision, but a good one I hope. I think that just about sums it up.
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 4:32 pm
To those of you who do not want to dissect but were told you'd fail otherwise: Under the majority of circumstances, this is false.
Many states, in fact, after key court cases, now are REQUIRED to have alternative assignments for students whose moral/ethical standpoints do not agree with dissection.
Please further consult resources to see if this right is extended to your area; I'm fairly certain it should be. :3
I don't believe dissection is right, unless the animal has died naturally. This may be even more beneficial for the dissectors: Perhaps they can visually identify a tumor or something that otherwise wouldn't be in a specimen.
I refused to dissect in any of my science courses in high school thus far, and plan to continue doing such. I caught hell for it from some of my classmates, but I wouldn't have done anything differently. ^^ The diagrams I was able to study were as educational as seeing it first hand, and my test scores were better than those who had a visual reference.
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:05 pm
Is it necessary to dissect animals in high schools? I don’t really think it’s any different to see the insides of an animal in a book of right there in front of you. So why kill an animal just to see what’s there. It helps some people, but I strongly prefer not to. But in order for some discoveries to be made, scientists have had to dissect. Also not all subjects had to die for the purpose of dissection. It’s a topic I have never thought much about because I have rarely had to do it.
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