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Hilarious Conversationalist
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 Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 6:44 pm
Apeiron King of Light Crono_Leonhart Well...Yeah...XD I only said it cause its effect is similar to Mirror forces. Ah, its not all that bad <_< yes it is crying they even took my dark hole in exchange... if anyone's usin one of those Chaos Remove decks, you might want to run "Dark Mirror Foce" also... yes, DARK mirror force. Why? BECAUSE IT REMOVES!!! scream Not destroy... ah, it's like a limit-less Noblman of Cross-out... it's even better if some newb uses "Total Defense Shogun" to attack and they got their best monsters face-down comboed with Book of Moon... xp
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 6:34 am
ryobakura Apeiron King of Light Crono_Leonhart Well...Yeah...XD I only said it cause its effect is similar to Mirror forces. Ah, its not all that bad <_< yes it is crying they even took my dark hole in exchange... if anyone's usin one of those Chaos Remove decks, you might want to run "Dark Mirror Foce" also... yes, DARK mirror force. Why? BECAUSE IT REMOVES!!! scream Not destroy... ah, it's like a limit-less Noblman of Cross-out... it's even better if some newb uses "Total Defense Shogun" to attack and they got their best monsters face-down comboed with Book of Moon... xp The fact remains that Dark Mirror Force would not be needed in a Chaos deck of any sorts. For one, Dark Mirror Force is too hard to play, since most people won't attack all out with defensive monsters on the field. Mirror Force isn't that big of a threat ( Or atleast around here ) Because we appropriately side deck for junk like that. ( My Body as a Shield does wonders. ) Chaos Sorcerer already removes the face up monsters and since most people use two of him in the deck, they have one for removal and the other for attacking. Tsukuyomi and Magician of Faith are used for Magic Recycling for either graceful charity, pot of avarice, or nobleman of crossout. So, seeing that under pressure a majority of duelist put their monsters face down, just get the nobleman and cross it out. And.... Total Defense Shogun? XD I don't even think the newbiest of newbs would use that card.
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Hilarious Conversationalist
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 1:10 pm
Star Akamatsu ryobakura Apeiron King of Light Crono_Leonhart Well...Yeah...XD I only said it cause its effect is similar to Mirror forces. Ah, its not all that bad <_< yes it is crying they even took my dark hole in exchange... if anyone's usin one of those Chaos Remove decks, you might want to run "Dark Mirror Foce" also... yes, DARK mirror force. Why? BECAUSE IT REMOVES!!! scream Not destroy... ah, it's like a limit-less Noblman of Cross-out... it's even better if some newb uses "Total Defense Shogun" to attack and they got their best monsters face-down comboed with Book of Moon... xp The fact remains that Dark Mirror Force would not be needed in a Chaos deck of any sorts. For one, Dark Mirror Force is too hard to play, since most people won't attack all out with defensive monsters on the field. Mirror Force isn't that big of a threat ( Or atleast around here ) Because we appropriately side deck for junk like that. ( My Body as a Shield does wonders. ) Chaos Sorcerer already removes the face up monsters and since most people use two of him in the deck, they have one for removal and the other for attacking. Tsukuyomi and Magician of Faith are used for Magic Recycling for either graceful charity, pot of avarice, or nobleman of crossout. So, seeing that under pressure a majority of duelist put their monsters face down, just get the nobleman and cross it out. And.... Total Defense Shogun? XD I don't even think the newbiest of newbs would use that card. ... yeah, only the better newbs that know something about the game won't use it... anyway, yeah it's a pretty sucky card... and not very good trade bait. neutral
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 2:01 pm
ryobakura Star Akamatsu ryobakura Apeiron King of Light Crono_Leonhart Well...Yeah...XD I only said it cause its effect is similar to Mirror forces. Ah, its not all that bad <_< yes it is crying they even took my dark hole in exchange... if anyone's usin one of those Chaos Remove decks, you might want to run "Dark Mirror Foce" also... yes, DARK mirror force. Why? BECAUSE IT REMOVES!!! scream Not destroy... ah, it's like a limit-less Noblman of Cross-out... it's even better if some newb uses "Total Defense Shogun" to attack and they got their best monsters face-down comboed with Book of Moon... xp The fact remains that Dark Mirror Force would not be needed in a Chaos deck of any sorts. For one, Dark Mirror Force is too hard to play, since most people won't attack all out with defensive monsters on the field. Mirror Force isn't that big of a threat ( Or atleast around here ) Because we appropriately side deck for junk like that. ( My Body as a Shield does wonders. ) Chaos Sorcerer already removes the face up monsters and since most people use two of him in the deck, they have one for removal and the other for attacking. Tsukuyomi and Magician of Faith are used for Magic Recycling for either graceful charity, pot of avarice, or nobleman of crossout. So, seeing that under pressure a majority of duelist put their monsters face down, just get the nobleman and cross it out. And.... Total Defense Shogun? XD I don't even think the newbiest of newbs would use that card. ... yeah, only the better newbs that know something about the game won't use it... anyway, yeah it's a pretty sucky card... and not very good trade bait. neutral The only time I ever run the Shogun is for his cool-ness factor sweatdrop
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Crono Leonhart Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 2:36 pm
Crono Leonhart ryobakura Star Akamatsu ryobakura Apeiron King of Light Crono_Leonhart Well...Yeah...XD I only said it cause its effect is similar to Mirror forces. Ah, its not all that bad <_< yes it is crying they even took my dark hole in exchange... if anyone's usin one of those Chaos Remove decks, you might want to run "Dark Mirror Foce" also... yes, DARK mirror force. Why? BECAUSE IT REMOVES!!! scream Not destroy... ah, it's like a limit-less Noblman of Cross-out... it's even better if some newb uses "Total Defense Shogun" to attack and they got their best monsters face-down comboed with Book of Moon... xp The fact remains that Dark Mirror Force would not be needed in a Chaos deck of any sorts. For one, Dark Mirror Force is too hard to play, since most people won't attack all out with defensive monsters on the field. Mirror Force isn't that big of a threat ( Or atleast around here ) Because we appropriately side deck for junk like that. ( My Body as a Shield does wonders. ) Chaos Sorcerer already removes the face up monsters and since most people use two of him in the deck, they have one for removal and the other for attacking. Tsukuyomi and Magician of Faith are used for Magic Recycling for either graceful charity, pot of avarice, or nobleman of crossout. So, seeing that under pressure a majority of duelist put their monsters face down, just get the nobleman and cross it out. And.... Total Defense Shogun? XD I don't even think the newbiest of newbs would use that card. ... yeah, only the better newbs that know something about the game won't use it... anyway, yeah it's a pretty sucky card... and not very good trade bait. neutral The only time I ever run the Shogun is for his cool-ness factor sweatdrop it's because of his name wink and the fact his ability fits his name xd
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:13 pm
Apeiron King of Light Crono Leonhart ryobakura Star Akamatsu ryobakura if anyone's usin one of those Chaos Remove decks, you might want to run "Dark Mirror Foce" also... yes, DARK mirror force. Why? BECAUSE IT REMOVES!!! scream Not destroy... ah, it's like a limit-less Noblman of Cross-out... it's even better if some newb uses "Total Defense Shogun" to attack and they got their best monsters face-down comboed with Book of Moon... xp The fact remains that Dark Mirror Force would not be needed in a Chaos deck of any sorts. For one, Dark Mirror Force is too hard to play, since most people won't attack all out with defensive monsters on the field. Mirror Force isn't that big of a threat ( Or atleast around here ) Because we appropriately side deck for junk like that. ( My Body as a Shield does wonders. ) Chaos Sorcerer already removes the face up monsters and since most people use two of him in the deck, they have one for removal and the other for attacking. Tsukuyomi and Magician of Faith are used for Magic Recycling for either graceful charity, pot of avarice, or nobleman of crossout. So, seeing that under pressure a majority of duelist put their monsters face down, just get the nobleman and cross it out. And.... Total Defense Shogun? XD I don't even think the newbiest of newbs would use that card. ... yeah, only the better newbs that know something about the game won't use it... anyway, yeah it's a pretty sucky card... and not very good trade bait. neutral The only time I ever run the Shogun is for his cool-ness factor sweatdrop it's because of his name wink and the fact his ability fits his name xd Yes. It's a rare occasion on when the card actually fits its namesake. He's interesting... just not all that great. There are just cards out there that snipe out the monsters in defensive position. Also, I personally don't think that I'd waste equip cards on him. He has the plus of not being destroyed when mirror force is activated, due to when he is in defensive position. Hells no he isn't good trade bait. T.T Once you get that card, it's like becoming the red headed step child. Something you just... don't want.
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Crono Leonhart Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 8:12 pm
Know what else isnt too good? Invader of Darkness e_e
...And I have three of him gonk
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 8:35 pm
Crono Leonhart Know what else isnt too good? Invader of Darkness e_e ...And I have three of him gonk Invader of Darkness is just " Ok " with me. Nothing too spectacular.
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Crono Leonhart Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 1:04 pm
Star Akamatsu Crono Leonhart Know what else isnt too good? Invader of Darkness e_e ...And I have three of him gonk Invader of Darkness is just " Ok " with me. Nothing too spectacular. I was going to use them for somthing, But then I forgot...So I rounded them up for nothing x_x One time, I did use them with "A Hero Emerges". It worked alright. But thats the only thing I can think of to use him for <_< Does anyone else have uses for him that I could try running?
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 1:11 pm
Crono Leonhart Star Akamatsu Crono Leonhart Know what else isnt too good? Invader of Darkness e_e ...And I have three of him gonk Invader of Darkness is just " Ok " with me. Nothing too spectacular. I was going to use them for somthing, But then I forgot...So I rounded them up for nothing x_x One time, I did use them with "A Hero Emerges". It worked alright. But thats the only thing I can think of to use him for <_< Does anyone else have uses for him that I could try running? He can be side-decked in fiend decks. Invader of Darkness may not seem like much, but he is actually not to be under-estimated. Summon him beforehand and bring an end to the activations of those Annoying Quick-Play Spell Cards. His only Down-side is, that his effect isn't - that - quick, so when he lands on the field, your opponent can still activate their quick-plays. ( Magical Dimension, Mystical Space Typhoon, Etc. ) He doesn't Negate their effects, which is a minus on him. If anything, you can purposely put him in the graveyard ( Along with your other two IoD's ) Remove them for Dark Necrofear, and then Dimension Fusion/Return From a Different Dimension Them. 3 2900 attackers on the field can become quite nasty and if your opponent misses timing, they cannot activate their scapegoats. All you'd have to do then is clear M/T field and maul them. I'd say one of the Harder Fiend Cards to use is Helpoemer. x_x
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Crono Leonhart Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 3:01 pm
Star Akamatsu Crono Leonhart Star Akamatsu Crono Leonhart Know what else isnt too good? Invader of Darkness e_e ...And I have three of him gonk Invader of Darkness is just " Ok " with me. Nothing too spectacular. I was going to use them for somthing, But then I forgot...So I rounded them up for nothing x_x One time, I did use them with "A Hero Emerges". It worked alright. But thats the only thing I can think of to use him for <_< Does anyone else have uses for him that I could try running? He can be side-decked in fiend decks. Invader of Darkness may not seem like much, but he is actually not to be under-estimated. Summon him beforehand and bring an end to the activations of those Annoying Quick-Play Spell Cards. His only Down-side is, that his effect isn't - that - quick, so when he lands on the field, your opponent can still activate their quick-plays. ( Magical Dimension, Mystical Space Typhoon, Etc. ) He doesn't Negate their effects, which is a minus on him. If anything, you can purposely put him in the graveyard ( Along with your other two IoD's ) Remove them for Dark Necrofear, and then Dimension Fusion/Return From a Different Dimension Them. 3 2900 attackers on the field can become quite nasty and if your opponent misses timing, they cannot activate their scapegoats. All you'd have to do then is clear M/T field and maul them. I'd say one of the Harder Fiend Cards to use is Helpoemer. x_x Well, Its not that hard to get Helpoemer into the grave, But with the cards that are out now, I guess it would be hard to keep him in there. All you'd have to do is run him into something as soon as he comes out to the feild. It wouldn't be all that hard to run him, would it? Maybe I should try to fit Invader into my archfeind deck XD
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 5:08 pm
It's the simple fact, that Helpoemer, being that his effect - does - kick a**, people won't destroy him in battle. They'll pick him with Lightning Vortex or some other card that destroys monsters. If he tries to ram, people will Mirror force/Sakuretsu Armor him If people try to summon him, they'll bottomless or Torrential him. This is why I say he is too hard to use. He can only be destroyed by battle.. which is easier said then done.
Sure, using Creature Swap to swap him and smacking him could be a good idea, but only when the opponent doesn't have the spells/traps to counter an attack, or creature swap itself.
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 6:33 pm
Star Akamatsu It's the simple fact, that Helpoemer, being that his effect - does - kick a**, people won't destroy him in battle. They'll pick him with Lightning Vortex or some other card that destroys monsters. If he tries to ram, people will Mirror force/Sakuretsu Armor him If people try to summon him, they'll bottomless or Torrential him. This is why I say he is too hard to use. He can only be destroyed by battle.. which is easier said then done. Sure, using Creature Swap to swap him and smacking him could be a good idea, but only when the opponent doesn't have the spells/traps to counter an attack, or creature swap itself. true but for you to ram into an opponents monster like that, you need to be prepared. On top of that, having Helpoemer is not the end of the world... it's only the beginning with Dark Necrofear. Seriously, fiend-control decks don't just rely on one card effect...it needs more, and to rely on something like Helpoemer is pretty sad crying I mean sure he is good, but he's not amazing like you pointed out due to his requirement.
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 7:37 pm
Apeiron King of Light Star Akamatsu It's the simple fact, that Helpoemer, being that his effect - does - kick a**, people won't destroy him in battle. They'll pick him with Lightning Vortex or some other card that destroys monsters. If he tries to ram, people will Mirror force/Sakuretsu Armor him If people try to summon him, they'll bottomless or Torrential him. This is why I say he is too hard to use. He can only be destroyed by battle.. which is easier said then done. Sure, using Creature Swap to swap him and smacking him could be a good idea, but only when the opponent doesn't have the spells/traps to counter an attack, or creature swap itself. true but for you to ram into an opponents monster like that, you need to be prepared. On top of that, having Helpoemer is not the end of the world... it's only the beginning with Dark Necrofear. Seriously, fiend-control decks don't just rely on one card effect...it needs more, and to rely on something like Helpoemer is pretty sad crying I mean sure he is good, but he's not amazing like you pointed out due to his requirement. o_o; No-one is saying I am relying on Helpoemer, and I don't play him. I said, that he's one of the harder fiends to run. >.>; Though the obvious thing is to rely on Necrofear and his abilities. o.o; Not every Fiend deck in the entire universe decks/side-decks necrofear.
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 9:35 pm
Star Akamatsu Apeiron King of Light Star Akamatsu It's the simple fact, that Helpoemer, being that his effect - does - kick a**, people won't destroy him in battle. They'll pick him with Lightning Vortex or some other card that destroys monsters. If he tries to ram, people will Mirror force/Sakuretsu Armor him If people try to summon him, they'll bottomless or Torrential him. This is why I say he is too hard to use. He can only be destroyed by battle.. which is easier said then done. Sure, using Creature Swap to swap him and smacking him could be a good idea, but only when the opponent doesn't have the spells/traps to counter an attack, or creature swap itself. true but for you to ram into an opponents monster like that, you need to be prepared. On top of that, having Helpoemer is not the end of the world... it's only the beginning with Dark Necrofear. Seriously, fiend-control decks don't just rely on one card effect...it needs more, and to rely on something like Helpoemer is pretty sad crying I mean sure he is good, but he's not amazing like you pointed out due to his requirement. o_o; No-one is saying I am relying on Helpoemer, and I don't play him. I said, that he's one of the harder fiends to run. >.>; Though the obvious thing is to rely on Necrofear and his abilities. o.o; Not every Fiend deck in the entire universe decks/side-decks necrofear. heh that's true, but that is one of the first thing people think of when it comes to fiends... I mean I'd rather have out a necrofear then a raviel (but it would be funny to play both in one turn xd ) On top of that, I know you're not relying on him...but to foolishly use him by just getting saku'ed means you're relying that card without thinking the options clear enough. I mean I don't know if it's just me but I main deck a little more m/t hate as well as anti-monster hat since I know 3/4 of the time my opponent has something for me like that. And, I know you said he is hard to play... but what I'm saying is that you can use him differently... thinking outside of the box the concept shows that by using him to get out the necrofear, you'll be able to use necrofears ability with less worry since you know your opponent used atleast of 1 his/her monster-hate cards. This can give you a whole you need to get more control on the board. That's sort of the way I was going with what I was talking about up there ^^;;
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