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 Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:51 pm
promised_child divineseraph "Oh noes, God did not deliver me a bike for christmas!" Seriously, is that what your faith is about, God bending his knee for your mortal bullshit? Do you realize that people, for their faith, were literally grilled alive? Did God come down to them and save them personally? I don't think so. Do you think he's going to help you keep your stupid girlfriend or keep your minimum wage job or whatever your problem is? Hissy fits over what God doesn't go out of his way to do for you piss me off. It's just plain stupid to assume that God works for you- If He's not feeding the starving in Africa, why do you think he'll solve your petty pre-teen issues? perhaps you could have found a better way to make your opinion known. this seems a little abusive. And you think that whining when the infinite power of the divine isn't directed at your petty problems is anything other than stupidity and arrogance?
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:24 am
divineseraph promised_child divineseraph "Oh noes, God did not deliver me a bike for christmas!" Seriously, is that what your faith is about, God bending his knee for your mortal bullshit? Do you realize that people, for their faith, were literally grilled alive? Did God come down to them and save them personally? I don't think so. Do you think he's going to help you keep your stupid girlfriend or keep your minimum wage job or whatever your problem is? Hissy fits over what God doesn't go out of his way to do for you piss me off. It's just plain stupid to assume that God works for you- If He's not feeding the starving in Africa, why do you think he'll solve your petty pre-teen issues? perhaps you could have found a better way to make your opinion known. this seems a little abusive. And you think that whining when the infinite power of the divine isn't directed at your petty problems is anything other than stupidity and arrogance? You need to learn to treat your peers with respect. How would you feel if you were in his shoes? I bet you wouldn't feel so high and mighty. neutral
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:29 pm
divineseraph promised_child divineseraph "Oh noes, God did not deliver me a bike for christmas!" Seriously, is that what your faith is about, God bending his knee for your mortal bullshit? Do you realize that people, for their faith, were literally grilled alive? Did God come down to them and save them personally? I don't think so. Do you think he's going to help you keep your stupid girlfriend or keep your minimum wage job or whatever your problem is? Hissy fits over what God doesn't go out of his way to do for you piss me off. It's just plain stupid to assume that God works for you- If He's not feeding the starving in Africa, why do you think he'll solve your petty pre-teen issues? perhaps you could have found a better way to make your opinion known. this seems a little abusive. And you think that whining when the infinite power of the divine isn't directed at your petty problems is anything other than stupidity and arrogance? I think that there are less abusive ways of stating your opinion. its human nature to complain, and you cant blame humans for being human. in Jerimiah God says that He knew us before we were born. If Christ can forgive the Romans who beat him and crucified him, is it not possible to temper your tongue when someone offends you?
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:07 am
-xXLady RaiXx- divineseraph promised_child divineseraph "Oh noes, God did not deliver me a bike for christmas!" Seriously, is that what your faith is about, God bending his knee for your mortal bullshit? Do you realize that people, for their faith, were literally grilled alive? Did God come down to them and save them personally? I don't think so. Do you think he's going to help you keep your stupid girlfriend or keep your minimum wage job or whatever your problem is? Hissy fits over what God doesn't go out of his way to do for you piss me off. It's just plain stupid to assume that God works for you- If He's not feeding the starving in Africa, why do you think he'll solve your petty pre-teen issues? perhaps you could have found a better way to make your opinion known. this seems a little abusive. And you think that whining when the infinite power of the divine isn't directed at your petty problems is anything other than stupidity and arrogance? You need to learn to treat your peers with respect. How would you feel if you were in his shoes? I bet you wouldn't feel so high and mighty. neutral I am not high and mighty that he is complaining- Complaining is completely fine. Blaming your problems on God, and believing that there must be no God because He's not helping you, however, is completely different. It's just plain stupid. I would never BE in his position because I am not an idiot. While I may very well end up in a similar economic or social position, I will not make the same foolish logical leaps.
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:07 am
divineseraph -xXLady RaiXx- divineseraph promised_child divineseraph "Oh noes, God did not deliver me a bike for christmas!" Seriously, is that what your faith is about, God bending his knee for your mortal bullshit? Do you realize that people, for their faith, were literally grilled alive? Did God come down to them and save them personally? I don't think so. Do you think he's going to help you keep your stupid girlfriend or keep your minimum wage job or whatever your problem is? Hissy fits over what God doesn't go out of his way to do for you piss me off. It's just plain stupid to assume that God works for you- If He's not feeding the starving in Africa, why do you think he'll solve your petty pre-teen issues? perhaps you could have found a better way to make your opinion known. this seems a little abusive. And you think that whining when the infinite power of the divine isn't directed at your petty problems is anything other than stupidity and arrogance? You need to learn to treat your peers with respect. How would you feel if you were in his shoes? I bet you wouldn't feel so high and mighty. neutral I am not high and mighty that he is complaining- Complaining is completely fine. Blaming your problems on God, and believing that there must be no God because He's not helping you, however, is completely different. It's just plain stupid. I would never BE in his position because I am not an idiot. While I may very well end up in a similar economic or social position, I will not make the same foolish logical leaps. Your large ego tells us otherwise. neutral
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:21 pm
-xXLady RaiXx- divineseraph -xXLady RaiXx- divineseraph promised_child divineseraph "Oh noes, God did not deliver me a bike for christmas!" Seriously, is that what your faith is about, God bending his knee for your mortal bullshit? Do you realize that people, for their faith, were literally grilled alive? Did God come down to them and save them personally? I don't think so. Do you think he's going to help you keep your stupid girlfriend or keep your minimum wage job or whatever your problem is? Hissy fits over what God doesn't go out of his way to do for you piss me off. It's just plain stupid to assume that God works for you- If He's not feeding the starving in Africa, why do you think he'll solve your petty pre-teen issues? perhaps you could have found a better way to make your opinion known. this seems a little abusive. And you think that whining when the infinite power of the divine isn't directed at your petty problems is anything other than stupidity and arrogance? You need to learn to treat your peers with respect. How would you feel if you were in his shoes? I bet you wouldn't feel so high and mighty. neutral I am not high and mighty that he is complaining- Complaining is completely fine. Blaming your problems on God, and believing that there must be no God because He's not helping you, however, is completely different. It's just plain stupid. I would never BE in his position because I am not an idiot. While I may very well end up in a similar economic or social position, I will not make the same foolish logical leaps. Your large ego tells us otherwise. neutral the best policy is to ignore 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:42 am
Kazydi I don't want to be a Christian anymore. I still believe that God is there, He's just not there for me. Ever.
So yeah, I'm done. Hey buddy, slow down. God doesn't exactly come down and meddle in our affairs here on Earth. If you don't get a prayer answered or anything like that, it doesn't mean that He isn't there.
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:15 am
Kazydi I don't want to be a Christian anymore. I still believe that God is there, He's just not there for me. Ever.
So yeah, I'm done. What makes you believe that God is not there for you? Is it unanswered prayers? If that is the case, then look at the Apostle Paul and his "thorn in the flesh" 2 Corinthians 12:7-9. Paul prayed three times to have this thorn removed (some scholars figure that Paul was having eye problems), but God did not heal him, in fact he let this thorn happen so that in Paul's weakness he would have to rely of God's Strength. There is also the case of David and Bathsheba's Child, who dies even after David fervently prayed that God would spare the child 2 Samuel 12:16-19You can see through out Paul's Ministry, He was persecuted harshly and eventually died in Jail. But God was with him that whole time, through the stonings, the beatings, the imprisonments, etc. Same for David, He was pursued by Saul, hunted to be killed for a long time, but God was there and he delivered him and he eventually became king. then there is also Stephen, who was the first Christian martyr, God was there with him as he was stoned to death Acts 7One thing that may help is to realize the things he has done for you. I once heard a preacher go through a list of "it would have been enough..." (I think it's a Jewish tradition, because it formally would go through the exodus through the building of Solomon's Temple) If all God did was save my soul, it would have been enough... but God also gave me to Christian parents. it would have been enough... but God also brought me to a good church and it would have been enough... but God also gave me good teachers and mentors in the faith and it would have been enough... etc I agree with Divineseraph (although I personally would have used a bit more tact), we should not be discouraged when we encounter tough times. In fact, we should be encouraged with our trials and tribulations, because we will develop perseverance in the Faith through them as we trust not in our strength but in the Lord's strength. James 1:2-4 and 1 Corinthians 1:25God Bless
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:09 am
SUPERSQUIRRELX Kazydi I don't want to be a Christian anymore. I still believe that God is there, He's just not there for me. Ever.
So yeah, I'm done. Hey buddy, slow down. God doesn't exactly come down and meddle in our affairs here on Earth. If you don't get a prayer answered or anything like that, it doesn't mean that He isn't there. This really isn't all that surprising as many sects and splinters of Christian faith are more concerned with fellowship than truth. I'm sure in time he will cast off the fallacies of church doctrine and his faith will take new form and judge not for his faith is his own
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:12 am
Seraph68 Kazydi I don't want to be a Christian anymore. I still believe that God is there, He's just not there for me. Ever.
So yeah, I'm done. What makes you believe that God is not there for you? Is it unanswered prayers? If that is the case, then look at the Apostle Paul and his "thorn in the flesh" 2 Corinthians 12:7-9. Paul prayed three times to have this thorn removed (some scholars figure that Paul was having eye problems), but God did not heal him, in fact he let this thorn happen so that in Paul's weakness he would have to rely of God's Strength. There is also the case of David and Bathsheba's Child, who dies even after David fervently prayed that God would spare the child 2 Samuel 12:16-19You can see through out Paul's Ministry, He was persecuted harshly and eventually died in Jail. But God was with him that whole time, through the stonings, the beatings, the imprisonments, etc. Same for David, He was pursued by Saul, hunted to be killed for a long time, but God was there and he delivered him and he eventually became king. then there is also Stephen, who was the first Christian martyr, God was there with him as he was stoned to death Acts 7One thing that may help is to realize the things he has done for you. I once heard a preacher go through a list of "it would have been enough..." (I think it's a Jewish tradition, because it formally would go through the exodus through the building of Solomon's Temple) If all God did was save my soul, it would have been enough... but God also gave me to Christian parents. it would have been enough... but God also brought me to a good church and it would have been enough... but God also gave me good teachers and mentors in the faith and it would have been enough... etc I agree with Divineseraph (although I personally would have used a bit more tact), we should not be discouraged when we encounter tough times. In fact, we should be encouraged with our trials and tribulations, because we will develop perseverance in the Faith through them as we trust not in our strength but in the Lord's strength. James 1:2-4 and 1 Corinthians 1:25God Bless I think he was looking for logic...not quotes from what some belive to be a book of lies
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:33 pm
lordstar Seraph68 Kazydi I don't want to be a Christian anymore. I still believe that God is there, He's just not there for me. Ever.
So yeah, I'm done. What makes you believe that God is not there for you? Is it unanswered prayers? If that is the case, then look at the Apostle Paul and his "thorn in the flesh" 2 Corinthians 12:7-9. Paul prayed three times to have this thorn removed (some scholars figure that Paul was having eye problems), but God did not heal him, in fact he let this thorn happen so that in Paul's weakness he would have to rely of God's Strength. There is also the case of David and Bathsheba's Child, who dies even after David fervently prayed that God would spare the child 2 Samuel 12:16-19You can see through out Paul's Ministry, He was persecuted harshly and eventually died in Jail. But God was with him that whole time, through the stonings, the beatings, the imprisonments, etc. Same for David, He was pursued by Saul, hunted to be killed for a long time, but God was there and he delivered him and he eventually became king. then there is also Stephen, who was the first Christian martyr, God was there with him as he was stoned to death Acts 7One thing that may help is to realize the things he has done for you. I once heard a preacher go through a list of "it would have been enough..." (I think it's a Jewish tradition, because it formally would go through the exodus through the building of Solomon's Temple) If all God did was save my soul, it would have been enough... but God also gave me to Christian parents. it would have been enough... but God also brought me to a good church and it would have been enough... but God also gave me good teachers and mentors in the faith and it would have been enough... etc I agree with Divineseraph (although I personally would have used a bit more tact), we should not be discouraged when we encounter tough times. In fact, we should be encouraged with our trials and tribulations, because we will develop perseverance in the Faith through them as we trust not in our strength but in the Lord's strength. James 1:2-4 and 1 Corinthians 1:25God Bless I think he was looking for logic...not quotes from what some belive to be a book of lies But there are also some who believe that it is a book of absolute truth, so I don't see how that statement is going to get any of us anywhere. if he disagrees with the Bible, then that is between him and God (which he says he still believes in), but if he is wanting to seek God through Christianity, the Bible is the logical place to take him.
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:06 am
Seraph68 lordstar Seraph68 Kazydi I don't want to be a Christian anymore. I still believe that God is there, He's just not there for me. Ever.
So yeah, I'm done. What makes you believe that God is not there for you? Is it unanswered prayers? If that is the case, then look at the Apostle Paul and his "thorn in the flesh" 2 Corinthians 12:7-9. Paul prayed three times to have this thorn removed (some scholars figure that Paul was having eye problems), but God did not heal him, in fact he let this thorn happen so that in Paul's weakness he would have to rely of God's Strength. There is also the case of David and Bathsheba's Child, who dies even after David fervently prayed that God would spare the child 2 Samuel 12:16-19You can see through out Paul's Ministry, He was persecuted harshly and eventually died in Jail. But God was with him that whole time, through the stonings, the beatings, the imprisonments, etc. Same for David, He was pursued by Saul, hunted to be killed for a long time, but God was there and he delivered him and he eventually became king. then there is also Stephen, who was the first Christian martyr, God was there with him as he was stoned to death Acts 7One thing that may help is to realize the things he has done for you. I once heard a preacher go through a list of "it would have been enough..." (I think it's a Jewish tradition, because it formally would go through the exodus through the building of Solomon's Temple) If all God did was save my soul, it would have been enough... but God also gave me to Christian parents. it would have been enough... but God also brought me to a good church and it would have been enough... but God also gave me good teachers and mentors in the faith and it would have been enough... etc I agree with Divineseraph (although I personally would have used a bit more tact), we should not be discouraged when we encounter tough times. In fact, we should be encouraged with our trials and tribulations, because we will develop perseverance in the Faith through them as we trust not in our strength but in the Lord's strength. James 1:2-4 and 1 Corinthians 1:25God Bless I think he was looking for logic...not quotes from what some belive to be a book of lies But there are also some who believe that it is a book of absolute truth, so I don't see how that statement is going to get any of us anywhere. if he disagrees with the Bible, then that is between him and God (which he says he still believes in), but if he is wanting to seek God through Christianity, the Bible is the logical place to take him. Is quoting the bible any help to someone who doesn't believe in its words? No...not at all. Is logic helpful? Almost always. unless I am mistaken he was not seeking God his post was more of a proclamation of frustration so again quoting the bible is really helpful if the recipient believes the words...otherwise doing so is largely inappropriate as it adds nothing to the conversation
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:21 am
He's testing you, watching your every move, thoughts! Seeing how faithful you are and how long you will last. So...you shouldnt. You must stick to him like glue!
If you are suffereing in any sort of way, just remember. it means you're sharing in christs suffering. So what ever your situation is, you should never leave! You'll regret it.
You just gotta keep searching for him for answers...he might just open your eyes to the real world and answer all your questions.
when you are feeling weak. Then you are strong.
DONT LEAVE!!!
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:53 am
explosionism He's testing you, watching your every move, thoughts! Seeing how faithful you are and how long you will last. So...you shouldnt. You must stick to him like glue! If you are suffereing in any sort of way, just remember. it means you're sharing in christs suffering. So what ever your situation is, you should never leave! You'll regret it. You just gotta keep searching for him for answers...he might just open your eyes to the real world and answer all your questions. when you are feeling weak. Then you are strong. DONT LEAVE!!! why only a mild adhesive?
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:34 pm
Kazydi I don't want to be a Christian anymore. I still believe that God is there, He's just not there for me. Ever.
So yeah, I'm done. Willing to explain further? Taking up our crosses means pain, not joy or happiness. Care to elaborate on your pain? On the empty feeling you get every time you prayed? On the bitter taste as you walked daily, ion and out of social occasions feeling alone and not having any fun like the others around you? Do you wish to continue walking in Him through the muck and mire of this world while others will mock you, torture you for believing in something which is inconceivable to explain, let alone live with daily? I am willing to listen.
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