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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:28 pm


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I don't like either one and if I wanted to. I would put up a better book list but I'm too lazy to look through my docs atm.

Just saying there's better books out there with more realistic plots and characters. Books today are as bad as MTV they fail at what they are supposed to mean.


Fan base wise I have to say that HP fans are much, much better behaved and less crazier than Twilight fans. Esp on Gaia and other social networking sites.

I agree.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:06 pm


Harry Potter owns, despiting that the half blood prince one pretty much suck. It wasnt impressive. :T

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:17 pm


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Harry Potter owns, despiting that the half blood prince one pretty much suck. It wasnt impressive. :T

I liked HBP. It wasn't the best, but it wasn't the worst either.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:45 pm


Harry Potter! But I haven't gotten to read all of either series yet.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:28 am


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Harry Potter! But I haven't gotten to read all of either series yet.

You really must read all of Harry Potter. I'm sure that by now you've been spoiled on all the really epic parts though.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:49 am


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Harry Potter owns, despiting that the half blood prince one pretty much suck. It wasnt impressive. :T

I liked HBP. It wasn't the best, but it wasn't the worst either.
Lol everyone's got their own opinion :3

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:27 pm


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Harry Potter owns, despiting that the half blood prince one pretty much suck. It wasnt impressive. :T

I liked HBP. It wasn't the best, but it wasn't the worst either.
Lol everyone's got their own opinion :3

True. =) Which book was your favorite?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:33 pm


Luciferian_Depression
so if there are vampires they'll actually die in sunlight, not ******** sparkle!

Actually, that's a fairly recent mythos of vampires. Traditionally, they didn't suffer from sunlight. Well, to be honest in the original myths it didn't say ANYTHING about a vampire's reaction to sunlight. The whole "weakness for sunlight" thing began in Bram Stoker, which is ironic because he only ever said that sunlight weakened them, drained them of their strength and powers. That it was fatal came from movie remakes of the classic story, I believe.

Ahem.
In any case, this is a reeeaaaally dangerous subject, I gotta say, though for the most part it looks as though the guild favours HP. But with Twilight, it's a love-it-or-hate-it thing.
I really hate Twilight, not just because the plot revolves around a selfish, ignorant, stupid girl who can't seem to realise that she's in a textbook abusive relationship with a man OVER 100 IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT HE'S A SPARKLING CORPSE, but because... well, to be honest, using the word "plot" was a stretch. There is no plot. We get 300+ pages of her whining about how no one pretty likes her, just all those icky normal people, and then suddenly there's some guy wanting to kill her... for some reason?
He's ugly too! Aren't vampires supposed to be pretty? As traumatic as sparklefags are, it just got worse to think of some hairy yeti sparkling too. So way to set up a consistent vampire culture, Smeyer.

But it's the domestic abuse that really gets me. She alienates her friends and family for him, he dictates who she's allowed to even speak to, he drives her everywhere, which means he controls where she can and can't go, and of course in New Moon he leads her to the centre of a forest without telling anyone else where they are going, breaks her heart, and then just abandons her there alone to wander around dazed and obviously suicidal.
Oh, but he did it because he loves her, so it's all right.
And of course, for months afterwards she wakes up screaming, refuses to speak or hear his name, is found curled up and crying in the woods when they finally discover her, and is clearly incredibly traumatised.
CHARLIE THE COP DAD IGNORES HER.
As a dad, I'd be thinking, "Rape."
As a cop, I'd be thinking, "Rape."
Charlie is a moron, so he thinks, "Oh, whatevs, she'll get over it. I also have a creepy relationship with her ex-boyfriend's sister, Alice!"

...look, clearly, I don't like Twilight.

I love Harry Potter though. The charm is how thorough the world is. I mean, a lot of it isn't fully explained and explored, but you can see that it's all there. Or things that were vaguely mentioned in the earlier books, though to just be passing plot device, come back in an important role in later books. There's not just clear, careful planning of plot in each single books, but there's careful linking over the arc of the series. J.K.Rowlings crafted characters that were real, and they were flawed and annoying sometimes, but meant well. They were as selfless as they were selfish, and they made so many mistakes. When Ron stormed off to leave Harry and Hermoine in their quest for the Deathly Hallows themselves in the Seventh book, I was on the edge of my seat, waiting for him to come back. And he did, and he admitted his mistake, but more than that he made a mistake, and we kept on loving him anyway. We could see his point of view as much as we could see the others. (spoilerish for Deathly Hallows).
Everything from past books came back in DH, and it really was the sort of Grand Finale story many other series lack. They keep it open in case they can squeeze more royalties out of a sequel. It was sad that it was all over, yes, but because she didn't write it all up to leave the possibilities of more, there was closure.
Yes, I had my problems with it. Characters that it felt unfair to kill off, moments that made me so angry I felt like hurling the book across the room, and don't even get me started on the epilogue. But in a way, that you can get so involved with a book that you can mourn the death of fictional characters, hate an event with so much venom, and... well, okay, at least appreciate Draco's receding hairline (heehee), that's really just a sign of a great book.

Yes, J.K.'s writing was shaking in the first couple. But she wasn't a writer before then. And despite that, it still managed to crawl to the top of my booklist.

So, yeah.
Harry Potter

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:44 pm


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Luciferian_Depression
so if there are vampires they'll actually die in sunlight, not ******** sparkle!

Actually, that's a fairly recent mythos of vampires. Traditionally, they didn't suffer from sunlight. Well, to be honest in the original myths it didn't say ANYTHING about a vampire's reaction to sunlight. The whole "weakness for sunlight" thing began in Bram Stoker, which is ironic because he only ever said that sunlight weakened them, drained them of their strength and powers. That it was fatal came from movie remakes of the classic story, I believe.
Fair enough. That I could actually see happening, since Hollywood does like to do that kind of thing. And still, weakness to sunlight is a hell of a lot closer to being classic that sparkling. Of course, the sparkling is actually the least of my issues, and this is all from stuff I've heard about Twilight. It bugs me to no end that the vampires don't drink human blood. I'm sorry, but when I think vampire, I think threat to humanity, not deer-sucker. Also, the whole love thing in general. Since humans are supposed to be a food source for vampires, that would be like me falling in love with a cow. Weird, gross, illogical (even by the standard of love), and highly unlikely.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:11 am


Luciferian_Depression
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Luciferian_Depression
so if there are vampires they'll actually die in sunlight, not ******** sparkle!

Actually, that's a fairly recent mythos of vampires. Traditionally, they didn't suffer from sunlight. Well, to be honest in the original myths it didn't say ANYTHING about a vampire's reaction to sunlight. The whole "weakness for sunlight" thing began in Bram Stoker, which is ironic because he only ever said that sunlight weakened them, drained them of their strength and powers. That it was fatal came from movie remakes of the classic story, I believe.
Fair enough. That I could actually see happening, since Hollywood does like to do that kind of thing. And still, weakness to sunlight is a hell of a lot closer to being classic that sparkling. Of course, the sparkling is actually the least of my issues, and this is all from stuff I've heard about Twilight. It bugs me to no end that the vampires don't drink human blood. I'm sorry, but when I think vampire, I think threat to humanity, not deer-sucker. Also, the whole love thing in general. Since humans are supposed to be a food source for vampires, that would be like me falling in love with a cow. Weird, gross, illogical (even by the standard of love), and highly unlikely.

Personally, my biggest problem with the book is that it's written badly. When you read it, it sounds like a 13 year old is writing it. It is, pure and simple, not up to my standards in literature.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:07 pm


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so if there are vampires they'll actually die in sunlight, not ******** sparkle!

Actually, that's a fairly recent mythos of vampires. Traditionally, they didn't suffer from sunlight. Well, to be honest in the original myths it didn't say ANYTHING about a vampire's reaction to sunlight. The whole "weakness for sunlight" thing began in Bram Stoker, which is ironic because he only ever said that sunlight weakened them, drained them of their strength and powers. That it was fatal came from movie remakes of the classic story, I believe.
Fair enough. That I could actually see happening, since Hollywood does like to do that kind of thing. And still, weakness to sunlight is a hell of a lot closer to being classic that sparkling. Of course, the sparkling is actually the least of my issues, and this is all from stuff I've heard about Twilight. It bugs me to no end that the vampires don't drink human blood. I'm sorry, but when I think vampire, I think threat to humanity, not deer-sucker. Also, the whole love thing in general. Since humans are supposed to be a food source for vampires, that would be like me falling in love with a cow. Weird, gross, illogical (even by the standard of love), and highly unlikely.

Personally, my biggest problem with the book is that it's written badly. When you read it, it sounds like a 13 year old is writing it. It is, pure and simple, not up to my standards in literature.
I've never read it, so I wouldn't know quality-of-writing wise what it's like.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:46 pm


Luciferian_Depression
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Luciferian_Depression
so if there are vampires they'll actually die in sunlight, not ******** sparkle!

Actually, that's a fairly recent mythos of vampires. Traditionally, they didn't suffer from sunlight. Well, to be honest in the original myths it didn't say ANYTHING about a vampire's reaction to sunlight. The whole "weakness for sunlight" thing began in Bram Stoker, which is ironic because he only ever said that sunlight weakened them, drained them of their strength and powers. That it was fatal came from movie remakes of the classic story, I believe.
Fair enough. That I could actually see happening, since Hollywood does like to do that kind of thing. And still, weakness to sunlight is a hell of a lot closer to being classic that sparkling. Of course, the sparkling is actually the least of my issues, and this is all from stuff I've heard about Twilight. It bugs me to no end that the vampires don't drink human blood. I'm sorry, but when I think vampire, I think threat to humanity, not deer-sucker. Also, the whole love thing in general. Since humans are supposed to be a food source for vampires, that would be like me falling in love with a cow. Weird, gross, illogical (even by the standard of love), and highly unlikely.

Personally, my biggest problem with the book is that it's written badly. When you read it, it sounds like a 13 year old is writing it. It is, pure and simple, not up to my standards in literature.
I've never read it, so I wouldn't know quality-of-writing wise what it's like.

I got through about 1/2 a chapter before I couldn't stand it anymore.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:30 pm


biggrin biggrin HARRY POTTER biggrin biggrin
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:39 pm


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Luciferian_Depression
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Luciferian_Depression
so if there are vampires they'll actually die in sunlight, not ******** sparkle!

Actually, that's a fairly recent mythos of vampires. Traditionally, they didn't suffer from sunlight. Well, to be honest in the original myths it didn't say ANYTHING about a vampire's reaction to sunlight. The whole "weakness for sunlight" thing began in Bram Stoker, which is ironic because he only ever said that sunlight weakened them, drained them of their strength and powers. That it was fatal came from movie remakes of the classic story, I believe.
Fair enough. That I could actually see happening, since Hollywood does like to do that kind of thing. And still, weakness to sunlight is a hell of a lot closer to being classic that sparkling. Of course, the sparkling is actually the least of my issues, and this is all from stuff I've heard about Twilight. It bugs me to no end that the vampires don't drink human blood. I'm sorry, but when I think vampire, I think threat to humanity, not deer-sucker. Also, the whole love thing in general. Since humans are supposed to be a food source for vampires, that would be like me falling in love with a cow. Weird, gross, illogical (even by the standard of love), and highly unlikely.

Personally, my biggest problem with the book is that it's written badly. When you read it, it sounds like a 13 year old is writing it. It is, pure and simple, not up to my standards in literature.
I've never read it, so I wouldn't know quality-of-writing wise what it's like.

I got through about 1/2 a chapter before I couldn't stand it anymore.
That bad? Wow. I might make it through more, I'm pretty tolerant of painful reading. I made it through about a quarter of Future Shock before the authors inaccurate predictions (being stated as fact) of what life would be like nowadays just got too painful and dull to put up with.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:42 am


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Personally, my biggest problem with the book is that it's written badly. When you read it, it sounds like a 13 year old is writing it. It is, pure and simple, not up to my standards in literature.
I've never read it, so I wouldn't know quality-of-writing wise what it's like.

I got through about 1/2 a chapter before I couldn't stand it anymore.

The writing in it is truly ******** awful purple prose. Adjective and adverb counter went through the roof.
She spends too much time describing his skin. It's creepy. Even his BREATH is beautiful and delicious.

My biggest problem was that I hated Bella.
Deeply.
I got a couple pages in and tore up the book. It was a friend's borrowed copy, so that was a problem, but it was worth it. OH BOO HOO YOUR MOTHER IS A DUMBSHIT SLUT THAT'S ABANDONING YOU FOR YOU MANROD AND YOUR FATHER SPENDS ALL HIS TIME DOING NOTHING BUT TRYING TO MAKE YOU HAPPY. WHAT A ******** JERK. PINE FOR YOUR MOTHER, CLEARLY SHE RULES.
I just cannot read it. Especially since it's from her first-person perspective, so we get to read all her internal monologuing as well as the s**t she spews when speaking.

...okay, twilight makes me swear profusely. Sorry.
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