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 Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:10 am
Captain Amaranth I prefer the term 'alternate history'. Given 'Crystal Age' seems to be getting a lot of support, does anyone object to me placing the Anachronism there (and writing out the setting properly to that effect).
Ahh, sorry~ I'm used to rpgs where everything is an alternate universe. XD
I don't object. (^_Q)
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:28 am
Lily Darling Captain Amaranth I prefer the term 'alternate history'. Given 'Crystal Age' seems to be getting a lot of support, does anyone object to me placing the Anachronism there (and writing out the setting properly to that effect). Ahh, sorry~ I'm used to rpgs where everything is an alternate universe. XD
I don't object. (^_Q) No worries, 'tis nought but words really. Splendid!
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:53 pm
Crystal does sound interesting... I'm just torn because I haven't done... well, TOO much writing in Victorian style. I'm up for Crystal, and there's no doubt in my mind that we couldn't pull it off and make it interesting.
Kinda like Retro, but less Seventys-licious.
But when you say 'alternate history', Captain, I can't help but think of Time travel. (which makes me think of Trunks Saga in DBZ... but that's just me.) Or maybe crazy people thinking there might be time travel. OR else people influenced by the old who think the crystal technology is scary. XD
It seems like there would be a lot of benefits to using the Crystal age, but sometimes having some limitations can give a more rounded plot, so there's something to crash up against for interest. Y'know, struggles and stuff.
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:30 am
Starflyer1 Crystal does sound interesting... I'm just torn because I haven't done... well, TOO much writing in Victorian style. I'm up for Crystal, and there's no doubt in my mind that we couldn't pull it off and make it interesting. Kinda like Retro, but less Seventys-licious. But when you say 'alternate history', Captain, I can't help but think of Time travel. (which makes me think of Trunks Saga in DBZ... but that's just me.) Or maybe crazy people thinking there might be time travel. OR else people influenced by the old who think the crystal technology is scary. XD It seems like there would be a lot of benefits to using the Crystal age, but sometimes having some limitations can give a more rounded plot, so there's something to crash up against for interest. Y'know, struggles and stuff. Damn skippy it'll be interesting. I wouldn't call it 'retro'. Never associated alternate history with time travel before. Aye, I agree Victorian would offer limitations up front; but I assure you, the crystal age will have have limitations too.
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:51 am
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:40 pm
Hm... I can understand the time travel thing, my mind goes other places somtimes.
Alternate usually means something other than what is there, or a choice between two existing things. Whether it exists or not depends on your thinking I suppose. I just tend to think that if it 'doesn't' exist here, it exists somewhere else. Just cause we don't have flying cars, doesn't mean someone else doesn't in another version of history (if we'd made a different choice in the past it could have been us.) But bleh... I digress.
l suppose It goes with the idea that when you make a choice to go one way in history, the other way you could have gone still exists to an extent, but mostly in the minds of the people who possibly WANTED it. And we could have people still stuck on old technology and rebelling/creating stuff from older Victorian-ish technology.
Perhaps it can be similar to what we call 'Antiquing'. Gotta have the Crazies.
Well I suppose I shall sit back and watch for the next bits of info to come out... and prolly get back to work on other projects... gotta love the internet. =P
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:50 pm
I just use 'alternate' in 'alternate history' to mean 'a history which serves as an alternative to our own' (if you will). That's all. *shrugs*
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:33 pm
Assuming no-one objects.
The Anachronism has now fallen through a break in the fabric of time and space, and now resides in the Crystal Age; circa 100 C.A.
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:29 pm
Captain Amaranth I just use 'alternate' in 'alternate history' to mean 'a history which serves as an alternative to our own' (if you will). That's all. *shrugs* Ahhhhh! If you put it THAT way then my thinking was a bit off. I was focusing on comparing either histories of Crystal age Vs Victorian age, either one becoming the outcome of an inevitable splitting point... thus the idea of both possibly existing from a point of view. But using vs our own... yeah. But cheers to Crystal period! I'm sure the readers will love seeing the twists the Steampunk genre(or some word I can't quite think of at the moment...) can pull outta that one!
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:01 am
Starflyer1 Captain Amaranth I just use 'alternate' in 'alternate history' to mean 'a history which serves as an alternative to our own' (if you will). That's all. *shrugs* Ahhhhh! If you put it THAT way then my thinking was a bit off. I was focusing on comparing either histories of Crystal age Vs Victorian age, either one becoming the outcome of an inevitable splitting point... thus the idea of both possibly existing from a point of view. But using vs our own... yeah. But cheers to Crystal period! I'm sure the readers will love seeing the twists the Steampunk genre(or some word I can't quite think of at the moment...) can pull outta that one! Ah, I see where you were coming from now. Heh. Oh heck yes indeedy. biggrin
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:28 pm
with the Crystal Age you have more options, among that we could use augmented modern technology. That's what the Fallout games did, an age where the 1950's never ended... well until it all blew up. The Crystal Age can be the same, where the British empire overtook much of the world, and then collapsed on itself. The Anachronism could take place in an area where the British empire is still holding on, but outlaws fight them for control.
Hehe I'm getting ahead of myself agen, but it dose sound good don't you think?
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:39 am
Starflyer1 :: pokes Psycho :: Like how we were trying to make rocks that hold hydrogen so it could ultimately be crystallized and used as fuel, but using a compression method instead of atom removal? (or something like that... o_O... gotta love wiki at 12am...) As for the character thing, I was going on the idea that most people had designed their characters with Victorian Steampunk in mind, and maybe there might be minor tweaks to orient them towards the mindset of the age/(era?). I mean... would either era have a defined 'lingo' or 'accent' as well as thought process? That could be fun... AND quirky. Yes... I think too much. Rocks that hold hydrogen? Do tell more about that, if you please, nyao? redface This is kind of embarrassing to admit, but when I created the steampunk version of my chara, "Dr. Kiti Moreaux", for some reason I was thinking of a Victorian-era Gaia rather than Earth for some reason... redface As for the Crystal Age concept, who says that it didn't start with Charles Babbage's Difference Engine actually working after a few tries, much like the novel The Difference Engine? Even if Mr. Babbage perfected a somewhat less ambitious version, but one still more powerful computationally than his Analytical Engine, I can easily see the technology suddenly getting classified "for the good of the Empire", which then uses "Mr. Babbage's device" and its computational ability to revolutionize designs such as airships (by being able to perform large numbers of calculations all at once in a day or two, rather than having a group of calculators all working away at large sheets of sums), thus giving the Empire the technological edge it needs to stay one step ahead of the rest of the world and maintain its Empire to the present. The end result? The spread of steampunk-style tech from the British Empire and its colonies, making the Empire a technological powerhouse. In a dramatic case of "keeping up with the Joneses", the rest of the world would either imitate Britain or develop their own technologies (hint: Japan after Adm. Perry's arrival) reverse-engineered from British designs--which would then logically give a reason for Victorian culture to be preserved, albeit with alterations such as women's suffrage, as the rest of the world imitates (or adapts; again, like Japan IRL) British culture, which the Empire would export along with its superior technology. Of course, all of this is simply off the top of my kitty head, so don't take it as anything other than a simple suggestion, nyao. >^_^<
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:02 pm
Kitirena Starflyer1 :: pokes Psycho :: Like how we were trying to make rocks that hold hydrogen so it could ultimately be crystallized and used as fuel, but using a compression method instead of atom removal? (or something like that... o_O... gotta love wiki at 12am...) As for the character thing, I was going on the idea that most people had designed their characters with Victorian Steampunk in mind, and maybe there might be minor tweaks to orient them towards the mindset of the age/(era?). I mean... would either era have a defined 'lingo' or 'accent' as well as thought process? That could be fun... AND quirky. Yes... I think too much. Rocks that hold hydrogen? Do tell more about that, if you please, nyao? redface This is kind of embarrassing to admit, but when I created the steampunk version of my chara, "Dr. Kiti Moreaux", for some reason I was thinking of a Victorian-era Gaia rather than Earth for some reason... redface As for the Crystal Age concept, who says that it didn't start with Charles Babbage's Difference Engine actually working after a few tries, much like the novel The Difference Engine? Even if Mr. Babbage perfected a somewhat less ambitious version, but one still more powerful computationally than his Analytical Engine, I can easily see the technology suddenly getting classified "for the good of the Empire", which then uses "Mr. Babbage's device" and its computational ability to revolutionize designs such as airships (by being able to perform large numbers of calculations all at once in a day or two, rather than having a group of calculators all working away at large sheets of sums), thus giving the Empire the technological edge it needs to stay one step ahead of the rest of the world and maintain its Empire to the present. The end result? The spread of steampunk-style tech from the British Empire and its colonies, making the Empire a technological powerhouse. In a dramatic case of "keeping up with the Joneses", the rest of the world would either imitate Britain or develop their own technologies (hint: Japan after Adm. Perry's arrival) reverse-engineered from British designs--which would then logically give a reason for Victorian culture to be preserved, albeit with alterations such as women's suffrage, as the rest of the world imitates (or adapts; again, like Japan IRL) British culture, which the Empire would export along with its superior technology. Of course, all of this is simply off the top of my kitty head, so don't take it as anything other than a simple suggestion, nyao. >^_^< Eh... well... you see, it started with a message about a Steampunk RPG that is quite dead now. Psycho and I were gonna carry on the story, and decided that ALIENS would be a good idea to add into the mix. Why would they come down? Why because of fuel and people who could help them obtain the fuel! (I.E labor) So, we decided on Hydrogen, and it would have to be in container that would be natural to the earth, thus rocks. Since crystals can form under the earth's surface, and hydrogen is part of water... well... think about water rocks and how to get hydrogen out of it... either by splitting the atoms or compressing it to get the hydrogen. Thus, a convenient storage method. Ehe... it went on from there. Wiki was our friend and we had an interesting evening that ended up going nowhere. I can see technology going back and forth, advances in one area, and then in another, and ultimately combining. Mm... that may have inspired me.
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:16 pm
I chose crystal becasue I like settings and images that combine bits of different time periods, and use many peaces in my own looks.
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:25 pm
Still, I prefer it if America still had it's independence. Even with Britain, America still has Tesla. It should have decent competitive technological edge.
Not to mention, if it has lincoln NOT being assassinated...
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